Corruption, bribery, cheap politics. It's time to act! Will you?

Discussion in 'Politics & Society' started by captonjohn, Jan 26, 2011.

  1. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

    Oct 11, 2010
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    Days are passing and we all are watching our nation getting spoiled by corrupted people, greedy babus and cheap politicians.

    • Yesterday Additional District Collector got burned alive because he was going to stop oil mafias.
    • CBI closed the case and Arushi's father appealed to higher court for this and after few days he got attacked and seriously injured by an stranger.
    • Another person asked government by RTI about illegal structure forming on government land and few days later he got attacked by some unknown bad guys.

    All this is just some news and a lot of incidents are happening day by day which get unnoticed. Common man can't live peacefully and don't dare to do anything because price for saying truth is terrible. A third-fourth grade government employee do anything wrong then he may immediately get suspended but government is still thinking that IAS Joshi couple should be suspended or not?

    So where are we heading? These corrupted people has been a ulcer for India is spoiling everything which we love more than our life. So the question is will we just keep looking and discussing about all this or will take some real action on the ground?

    A lot of problems but nobody thinks about solution and I don't believe that any problem can be unsolvable. A problem remains problem only if we don't take it serious.

    This post is to find some real solutions for all these problems. We all complain that we don't have option and what we can do for that. But are we really so weak to do anything for our beloved country? Think on it and discuss here.

    NO abuse, NO personal offense! Only solution to a problem.

    So do you have any solution?

    India is burning and only we can stop it!
    It's time for REFORMATION .......... it's time for CHANGE!
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  3. EagleOne

    EagleOne Regular Member

    May 10, 2010
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    got this as a mail long back so sharing it

    Why is the media here in India so negative?
    Why are we in India so embarrassed to recognize our own strengths, our achievements?
    We are such a great nation. We have so many amazing success stories but we refuse to acknowledge them. Why?
    We are the first in milk production.
    We are number one in Remote sensing satellites.
    We are the second largest producer of wheat.
    We are the second largest producer of rice.
    Look at Dr. Sudarshan , he has transferred the tribal village into a self-sustaining, self-driving unit. There are millions of such achievements but our media is only obsessed in the bad news and failures and disasters.
    I was in Tel Aviv once and I was reading the Israeli newspaper. It was the day after a lot of attacks and bombardments and deaths had taken place. The Hamas had struck. But the front page of the newspaper had the picture of a Jewish gentleman who in five years had transformed his desert into an orchid and a granary. It was this inspiring picture that everyone woke up to. The gory details of killings, bombardments, deaths, were inside in the newspaper, buried among other news.

    In India we only read about death, sickness, terrorism, crime.. Why are we so NEGATIVE? Another question: Why are we, as a nation so obsessed with foreign things? We want foreign T.Vs, we want foreign shirts. We want foreign technology.

    Why this obsession with everything imported. Do we not realize that self-respect comes with self-reliance? I was in Hyderabad giving this lecture, when a 14 year old girl asked me for my autograph. I asked her what her goal in life is. She replied: I want to live in a developed India . For her, you and I will have to build this developed India . You must proclaim. India is not an under-developed nation; it is a highly developed nation.
    Do you have 10 minutes? Allow me to come back with a vengeance.

    Got 10 minutes for your country? If yes, then read; otherwise, choice is yours..
    YOU say that our government is inefficient.
    YOU say that our laws are too old.
    YOU say that the municipality does not pick up the garbage.
    YOU say that the phones don’t work, the railways are a joke. The airline is the worst in the world, mails never reach their destination.
    YOU say that our country has been fed to the dogs and is the absolute pits.

    YOU say, say and say. What do YOU do about it?

    Take a person on his way to Singapore . Give him a name – ‘YOURS’. Give him a face – ‘YOURS’. YOU walk out of the airport and you are at your International best. In Singapore you don’t throw cigarette butts on the roads or eat in the stores. YOU are as proud of their Underground links as they are.. You pay $5 (approx. Rs. 60) to drive through Orchard Road (equivalent of Mahim Causeway or Pedder Road) between 5 PM and 8 PM. YOU come back to the parking lot to punch your parking ticket if you have over stayed in a restaurant or a shopping mall irrespective of your status identity… In Singapore you don’t say anything, DO YOU? YOU wouldn’t dare to eat in public during Ramadan, in Dubai .. YOU would not dare to go out without your head covered in Jeddah.
    YOU would not dare to buy an employee of the telephone exchange in London at 10 pounds (Rs.650) a month to, ‘see to it that my STD and ISD calls are billed to someone else.’YOU would not dare to speed beyond 55 mph (88 km/h) in Washington and then tell the traffic cop, ‘Jaanta hai main kaun hoon (Do you know who I am?).. I am so and so’s son. Take your two bucks and get lost.’ YOU wouldn’t chuck an empty coconut shell anywhere other than the garbage pail on the beaches in Australia and New Zealand ..
    Why don’t YOU spit Paan on the streets of Tokyo ? Why don’t YOU use examination jockeys or buy fake certificates in Boston ??? We are still talking of the same YOU. YOU who can respect and conform to a foreign system in other countries but cannot in your own. You who will throw papers and cigarettes on the road the moment you touch Indian ground. If you can be an involved and appreciative citizen in an alien country, why cannot you be the same here in India ?

    In America every dog owner has to clean up after his pet has done the job. Same in Japan ..
    Will the Indian citizen do that here?’ He’s right. We go to the polls to choose a government and after that forfeit all responsibility.
    We sit back wanting to be pampered and expect the government to do everything for us whilst our contribution is totally negative. We expect the government to clean up but we are not going to stop chucking garbage all over the place nor are we going to stop to pick a up a stray piece of paper and throw it in the bin. We expect the railways to provide clean bathrooms but we are not going to learn the proper use of bathrooms.
    We want Indian Airlines and Air India to provide the best of food and toiletries but we are not going to stop pilfering at the least opportunity. .
    This applies even to the staff who is known not to pass on the service to the public.

    When it comes to burning social issues like those related to women, dowry, girl child! and others, we make loud drawing room protestations and continue to do the reverse at home. Our excuse? ‘It’s the whole system which has to change, how will it matter if I alone forego my sons’ rights to a dowry.’ So who’s going to change the system?
    What does a system consist of? Very conveniently for us it consists of our neighbours, other households, other cities, other communities and the government. But definitely not me and YOU. When it comes to us actually making a positive contribution to the system we lock ourselves along with our families into a safe cocoon and look into the distance at countries far away and wait for a Mr.Clean to come along & work miracles for us with a majestic sweep of his hand or we leave the country and run away.
    Like lazy cowards hounded by our fears we run to America to bask in their glory and praise their system. When New York becomes insecure we run to England . When England experiences unemployment, we take the next flight out to the Gulf. When the Gulf is war struck, we demand to be rescued and brought home by the Indian government. Everybody is out to abuse and rape the country. Nobody thinks of feeding the system. Our conscience is mortgaged to money.

    Dear Indians, The article is highly thought inductive, calls for a great deal of introspection and pricks one’s conscience too…. I am echoing J. F. Kennedy’s words to his fellow Americans to relate to Indians…..


    Lets do what India needs from us.

    Forward this mail to each Indian for a change instead of sending Jokes or junk mails.

    Thank you,

    Dr… Abdul Kalam
  4. SHASH2K2

    SHASH2K2 New Member

    May 10, 2010
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    Bihar, BanGalore , India
    MMS has done a good thing . For mango man like us RTI is the key . RTI can be used to weed out corruption at grass root level . unfortunately we cannot even track corruption at high level but we can definitely make sure that corrupt ones do not get chance to represent us twice .
  5. thakur_ritesh

    thakur_ritesh Administrator Administrator

    Feb 19, 2009
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    Land of the GODS - "Dev Bhomi".
    Corruption, bribery, cheap politics, rival killings etc have always been a part of india, the difference, earlier the number of people with money and in a position to influence were limited but with a growing middle and affluent class people with money and influence have increased and so have the problems compounded many folds.

    Solution is simple and that is to strengthen the rights of the common man and in socio-economics of it.

    rti being one, which was introduced just a few years back and has become a roaring success but when someone with power and money is challenged he reacts in many ways, one of which is violence and so the increase in violence as a result, then there are honest people in the system who when they raise their voice and act are as quickly transferred, or eliminated as happened with this person at the hands of oil mafia, this is exactly how a system evolves where people who have all the means with them try and remove their opponents who do not have as much money/influence and generally people with lesser means are never heard than a few odd cases here and there, and even the ones one hears are more related to people from the middle class who have some sort of means to put through their point of view.

    There is a democratic solution, don’t ever vote back the dirt in our political system but then when the whole game gets played with all the corrupt practices one is left with a choice of only choosing the lesser of the evils, so the muck keeps flowing and the for now the things have gone so bad.

    Educate people, make them aware about their rights, run as many awareness programs as possible.

    Media is a very strong tool, have channels which exclusively are run around population empowerment and those seen as violating other’s rights be made examples and same be highlighted through the media so that the poor out there feel even they can take on the high and mighty.

    Develop a justice system which delivers and is accountable, unlike what happens in today’s india. The government has to make sure the police it self does not act as a mafia as is the case today in india but is reformed and pulled out of the clutches of the business community and the political class, the nexus of which is extremely toxic but then there are no real takers for police reforms in india. The judiciary has to be made independent in the truest form and not how it is now where again that rather toxic nexus has a free run. Both these law enforcing and law delivering institutions have to sanitized and people’s faith needs to be restored.

    Economy is growing at a rapid pace, make sure there is a constant trickle down effect and a good social security system is evolved especially for the downtrodden of this country where if not more we atleast make housing/food/clothing/health/education universal and a job as universal as possible.

    There also remains the solution of violence and some people have taken that up, Maoism is seen as a solution by many and because it is seen as a solution, that is the exact reason why it is spreading the way it is. The poor in this country has no real voice, just as I said law is for people who form the middle class and above so the poor side with people who are ready to provide a solution which is effective and happens in a time bound manner which is where the maoist movement fits in. not trying to justify it but yes a decent number of people see as a solution.

    There remain many solutions, choice is ours in making, but then hey how does it matter, in a country which is seen extremely corrupt who really acres, sab chalta hai bahi, yeh Hindustan hai!
  6. Rage

    Rage DFI TEAM Stars and Ambassadors

    Feb 23, 2009
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    I'll tell you what you can do. As a common man, you can make a big hue and cry about corruption the next time you're confronted with it. The next time you're at an airport, or at a government office or at a police thane and are asked to pay a bribe, bawl and wail about it. Indian government officials are particularly fearful about embarrassment; especially when it is at public places.

    This is the one good, sea change that has come about because of the media. There was a point in time when I went to the post office and the clerk would charge me an 'extra rate' just for sending an order on time, and threatening with a complaint would usually net me 'jaa, post master ko complain kar'. Not any more. Making a scene now usually causes them to scramble for some peace.

    One thing that has worked particularly well for me, but with differing results for others, is threatening to take their name to the papers. The last time I was at the municipal office for an attested birth certificate, and found numerous problems with the name and information, with the clerk actually telling me that it would take thirty days to get the minor corrections made, threatening to take his name to the Mid-Day got me the birth certificate the next day.

    The concern about corruption has caught on big in India. That is a very, good sign.

    Here is a facebook page about corruption and what to do about it by concerned citizens:

    This is a very good article:

    I recommend it be read by all.
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2011
  7. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

    Oct 11, 2010
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    Thanks for your comment Rage, this is a good idea to stop corruption. What we can do is that make a group of people who wants to make change and stop it and then starts a campaign to create general awareness in public as well as open protest to such corrupted peoples. Once we get recognition in media then things would be more easy for us and media will support us in this matter.
  8. captonjohn

    captonjohn Regular Member

    Oct 11, 2010
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    What I noticed in our public is that almost 80% people either don't know about laws and their rights or don't want to engage in it. If we can create a wave of awareness in public specially in youth then it can be change slowly. I have few ideas about this problem which I'm listing here:

    For public
    1. Create a general awareness to fight with corruption and starts protest from locals like corrupted shopkeepers who sell stuff more than MRP, government employees who don't work and unnecessary delay work.

    2. Use the law like RTI and a new law is applicable in Madhya Pradesh that is Lok Seva Guarantee law which is for those who don't work properly and unnecessary delay your work. This would definitely put such corrupted people in problem.

    3. Create a group, an organization dedicated to fight with corruption and all such system problems. In other words we can call it a movement to reform India on which I'm working on.

    4. We can use our mobiles to capture clips of such people who asking bribe or saying "I'll not do your work JA JISSE BOLNA HO BOL DE!!" and spread it to media. I've many information about spy cameras which we can use.

    In short I want to make a group an organization to start a movement against such problems which will be named as "Reforming India". What do you say friends about it? Will you support and join it to share your opinion and take some bold action against corruption?

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