http://koenraadelst.blogspot.fr/2010/07/guru-nanak-was-hindu.html
In contemporary devotional pictures and posters of Guru Nanak (1469-1539), as seen in taxis and shops, the Guru is invariably shown as wearing a pagari or turban, like his pupils (Sikh-s) today. But this is a recently-imposed convention, not followed in his own day and in subsequent centuries.
In traditional paintings, the Gurus never wore turbans, a custom that even according to Sikh teaching itself was only instituted by the tenth and last Guru, Govind Singh, in 1699. All the Gurus are typically shown as wearing a topi (Hindu-style cap) and patka (sash). We discuss one instance.
K.C. Aryan (born 11 August 1919, died 2002), a Partition refugee from West Panjab, was an accomplished painter. He founded the Museum for Tribal and Folk Art in Gurgaon, still functioning today. He saved plenty of old paintings, sculptures and other arts & crafts objects for posterity by collecting them in his museum or donating them to more established institutions.
In 1970, he presented to the publishing unit of Punjabi University Patiala a manuscript with illustrations for a book, 100 Years Survey of Panjab Painting (1841-1941). It was eventually published by the PUP in 1975, but only in mutilated form. The Senate Board of the University objected to the inclusion of one particular painting, and threatened that if it were published, the grant for the whole publishing unit would be stopped.
The contentious painting, executed by a Pahari painter in the mid-19th century (whose name, as often in folk art, remains unknown), shows a topi-wearing Guru Nanak praying to Lord Vishnu. The Board took the Sikh-separatist line that that Sikhism has nothing to do with Hinduism, and that the Gurus are above the “Brahminical” gods. It is the same line that keeps the Sikh establishment from calling their central shrine, the Hari Mandir (“Vishnu temple”), by its proper name, hiding it behind the superficial designation “Golden Temple” or the Moghul term “Darbar Sahib”. It is also why in 1922 they threw out from the Hari Mandir the murti-s that had been worshipped there ever since Arjan Dev inaugurated it in 1604. Sikh identity as a separate religion, rather than as one of the many panth-s in the Hindu commonwealth, is based on a denial of history, and this requires a constant censoring of unwilling historical data: names changed, scriptures doctored, murti-s thrown away, the publication of a painting suppressed.
K.C. Aryan donated the painting in ca. 1982 to the Himachal State Museum in Shimla. There, it is significantly not on display but kept in storage. That is, if it has not been lost or illegally sold by some babu unconcerned with art and heritage; or somehow eliminated by one with Khalistani.leanings eager to destroy the evidence for an inconvenient fact: that Guru Nanak was every inch a Hindu.
Those 1.3 billion are fractured, that's what the pew report won't mention. Many of them will vote against hindu interests and are rabid hindu haters, yet classify as "hindus" for census purposes. The pew report also doesn't take into consideration the # of crypto christians. There are just too many fault lines in Hindu community to list.Yes i have read the pew 2050 projection.
Hindu - 1.3 billion
Muslims - 320 millions
The thing is we can't stop them if people identify themselves as sects,it took Sikhism 300 ~ year to established as separate religion so i am sure kabirpanthi won't be a religion in near future.
I would also like to say that i respect all those small sects/religions who consider India as their home and their allegiance is towards this land not Arabia,so if somebody ask me to convert to Sikhism i would happily convert as it is the religion/sect of this land ..... Just like several sects shaiva,kapalik,vaishnava assimilated into Hinduism in some point of time.
They are trying to hold online referendum on khalistan with help of USA.
It also ignores fact that Krishna ji Buddha ji mahavir ji all talk of parmatma.Sikhism believes in Dharma,Moksha,reincarnation, Karma, Leela and other Dharmic concepts ... no one can deny Sikhism is a Dharmic religion.
All those half wit and bigot arguments that Sikhism is close to Abrahamic religion are just an attempt to create divisions among people of India.
Portrayed as drunken outcasts in post 1857 world. Many are also celibate similar to rss so :/J.Malcom on why British need to get rid of the Akali Nihangs
Sketch of the Sikhs, 1812
https://books.google.com/books?id=GMUKAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA119&lpg=PA119#v=onepage&q&f=false
Nihangs are among the traditional sikhs, still maintain many of the Hindu warrior traditions of the old.
It is important to place these prophecies in front of the Sikh soldiery to re-enforce loyalty to raj :-A movement to declare the Sikhs Hindus, in direct opposition to the teaching of the Gurus, is widespread and of long duration. I have only quite recently met in Lahore young men claiming to be descendants of the Gurus, who told me that they were Hindus, and that they could not read the characters in which the sacred books of the Sikhs were written. Whether the object of their tutors and advisers was or was not to make them disloyal, such youths are ignorant of the Sikh religion, and of its prophecies favour of the English, and contract exclusive social customs and prejudices to the extent of calling us Malechhas, or persons of impure desires, and inspiring disgust for the customs and habits of Christians.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/skh/tsr1/tsr101.htmIt is admitted that a knowledge of the religions of the people of India. is a desideratum for the British Officials who administer its affairs and indirectly for the people who are governed by them so that mutual sympathy may be produced. It seems, at any rate, politic to place before the Sikh soldiery their Guru's prophecies in favour of the English and the texts of their sacred writings which foster their loyalty.
Hindus and Sikhs has always been roti-beti ka rishta (breaking bread in common and giving daughters in marriage), or nauh-maas da rishta (as fingernail is to the flesh)
The real danger to the Khalsa has always been, as it is today, the absorptive capacity of Hinduism. An English scholar correctly described it as the boa constrictor of the Indian jungles: it can swallow religions which come in contact with it, with special taste for its own offspring.
Guru Gobind compiled an anthology of his own, the Dasam Granth. While the Adi (first) Granth is essentially a distillation of the Vedanta in Punjabi, the Dasam (10th) is a compilation of tales of valour of Hindu goddesses, some composed by the Guru himself, others by bards of his court.
The roots of Sikhism lie deep in the Bhakti form of Hinduism. Guru Nanak picked what he felt were its salient features: belief in one God who is undefinable, unborn, immortal, omniscient, all-pervading and the epitome of Truth; belief in the institution of the Guru as the guide in matters spiritual; unity of mankind without distinction of caste; rejection of idol worship and meaningless ritual; sanctity of the sangat (congregation) which was expected to break bread together at the Guru ka Langar; the gentle way of sahaj to approach God while fulfilling domestic obligations; hymn singing (kirtan); emphasis on work as a moral obligation.
The compilation of the Adi Granth around 1604 AD was a landmark in the evolution of Sikhism. Though an eclectic work with compositions of Hindu and Muslim saints, it echoes the Vedanta through most of its nearly 6,000 hymns. There is a new breed of Sikh scholars who bend backwards to prove Sikhism has taken little or nothing from Hinduism. All they need to be told is that of the 15,028 names of God that appear in the Adi Granth, Hari occurs over 8,000 times, Ram 2,533 times, followed by Prabhu, Gopal Govind, Parbrahm and other Hindu nomenclature for the Divine.The purely Sikh coinage 'Wahe Guru' appears only 16 times.
The final transition came after the execution of the ninth Guru, Tegh Bahadur, in 1675. His son, Guru Gobind, justified the transition in a letter, Zafarnamah, said to have been addressed to Emperor Aurangzeb: "When all other means have failed it is righteous to draw the sword". Guru Gobind's concept of God underwent a martial metamorphosis. In his Akal Ustat (Praise of the Timeless God) he wrote:
Eternal God, thou art our shield,
The dagger, knife, the sword we wield.
To us Protector there is given
The timeless, deathless Lord of Heaven;
To us All-steel's unvanquished might,
To us All-time's resistless flight;
But chiefly Thou, Protector brave
All-steel, wilt Thine own servant save
In his ode to Goddess Chandi, Guru Gobind asked Lord Shiva to grant him the most fitting end to a warrior's life:
O Lord, these boons of Thee I ask,
Let me never shun a righteous task,
Let me be fearless when I go to battle,
Give me faith that victory will be mine,
Give me power to sing Thy praise,
And when comes the time to end my life,
Let me fall in mighty strife.
What a stupid logic.When Sikhs consider themselves separate from Hinduism according to the teachings and Sikh theology,then we should also honor their beliefs and stop associating Hinduism with Sikhism.
Rich coming from a guy who have never seen a sikh in his life ...... but plz tell your logic to a Sikh and have a free face restructure surgery plus this debate has nothing to do with khalistan.What a stupid logic.
When a man considers himself a monkey does that make him a monkey? I am asking because a similar kind of stupidity runs in the west as well with genders. What someone thinks about himself is a subjective issue and cannot be a basis for am objective analysis.
And this artificial deconstruct have to be debunked as it was the prime basis for the khalistan movement and the subsequent anti Sikh progrom
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