Do you know where the hit took place ?
Under barrel of Tiger main gun, it blocked turret race ring.
I feel like Damian is the Polish version of Armand ... only for Damian anything Polish made is best, anything Soviet made is better and anything made by other (former) eastern block countries is good!
Where did I say that anything made in my country is best? Please make a citation of my words to proove that.
I praise Soviet made weapon systems not because they are Soviet but because the principles, logic, solutions standing behind such designs were just good.
And I currently prise more US designs, that are underestimated over world, mainly due to lack of understanding and poor propaganda of other countries.
And there is a huge difference between me and Armand, I use arguments, proofs, many of them provided by known and respected authors of good books, I back up my arguments by observations and conclusions based on these observations.
For a great admirer of the USSR that I am, or even JBH22, I think Damian beats all of us in his praise for anything Polish, Soviet, Slavic or from the former Communist Bloc or Warsaw Pact.
I do not like communists/socialists, but indeed, Soviets had many good, sometimes superior to others ideas.
And we all need to face simple facts, the only country that was capabale to design similiar or superior designs was US, Germans also tried but their designs lacked funding and there were less of them.
Rest of Europe was irrevelant for Cold War arms race. But still they were abale to design good weapon systems, just not so revolutionary in many aspects as US, SU and in some points Germany.
I agree that this top ten business is subjective but for whatever its worth here's the top ten ranking of best tanks of all time by Discovery Channel:
1.T-34 -
2.M1 Abrams -
3.Tiger I -
4.Mark I tank -
5.Centurion tank -
6.Panzer IV -
7.Challenger 1/Challenger 2 -
8.T-54/55 -
9.Merkava -
10.M4 Sherman -
Sorry Armand, still no French tank on the list.
This is just plain stupid, a cpmpletely failed design, the T-34 is on number one, and a much better, reliabale, simple M4 is at number 10?! What idiot made such list?
Where are such revolutionary designs like T-64? Oh I know, authors of these list probably don't know that T-64 ever existed, and they would confuse this tank with T-72.
Where is Leclerc? Yes I will defend Leclerc, even if S1 versions were bugged designs with many design problems, the S2 and S3/SXXI versions are very good tanks with many interesting design solutions.
However to allready show one myth about Leclerc I need a photo here.
The most popular myth is Leclerc is using modular armor, as we can see, turret is actually normal welded construction with composite armor cavitis. So armor is actually semi modular as in allmost all modern MBT's, like M1 Abrams, Leopard 2, Challenger 1/2 or T-90A etc. etc.
So from where this myth came from? I have two theories, a bad translation from French, and because of these storage boxes mounted on turret, yup these things that are looking like armor modules are actually storage boxes, they can act like simple, light standoff armor.
Personally I would redesign Leclerc in some areas (hull ammunition storage, driver station placement, engine) but overall it is very good tank with good protection, comparabale to other modern MBT's, it laos proofs that concept of smaller, more compact vehicle with same protection as bigger and heavier vehicles is not a false concept.