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Sang "shishigi" in the MRAP from Ukrainian volunteers.

This photo is three years old. I did not see such an angle. Volunteers are no longer engaged in providing light armored vehicles. This function, completely touched upon itself, the state.
 

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world will not turn over if proofs, indisputable proofs of the presence of rich hunters on people will be, and if they do not exist. The meaning of the video is different.
In theory, any outsider can gain access to any trenches. For money. With this, no one will dare to argue here, since the primacy of the material is the highest base value of people in the post-Soviet space.
Money, not Ukraine ON OUR US. Deka reminds of this, that's all.

 

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A fan from Ukraine surprised the Bulgarian journalist with his answer

- We support Russia, for our brothers! We wish peace, love, that this war ceased to be senseless! That people live in peace and love! - said the fan ...

 

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what about these problems in Ukraine !!!

Ukraine’s Nazi problem has become so obvious that it’s finally been recognised by international human rights organisations. How will Kiev respond?

https://rtd.rt.com/tags/ukraine-documentaries/

I did not even read it. You can show another, more reliable source. Between Ukraine and Russia is an undeclared war and for me RT, as Hitler's radio.
 

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Explosion of mortar at the APU training ground: 3 dead, 9 wounded

Three servicemen were killed and nine were injured as a result of the incident at the 233rd Rivnensky Combined Landfill. This is reported by the press service of the Army in Facebook.

The incident occurred at 5:55. According to preliminary data, the mortar exploded. The exercises are suspended, an official investigation is conducted.

 

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August 17 in Kiev, the ceremony of transferring the APU two stations counterbattery AN / TPQ-36.

 

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In Kiev Buk missile crashed into the building after rehearsal of the parade

Buk's anti-aircraft missile system of the Ukrainian armed forces crashed into the building of the business center in Kiev, Gromadske TV reported with reference to eyewitnesses of the incident.

The incident occurred after the rehearsal of the military parade, dedicated to the Independence Day in Kiev. As part of this event, military equipment drove along the central street of the Ukrainian capital Khreshchatyk.

In the published photos it is seen that the combat vehicle crashed into the facade of the building and damaged it.

The military parade on the occasion of the Independence Day of Ukraine is scheduled for August 24.




 

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Since the beginning of September, of the 4th brigades of the UAF 42 soldiers have deserted because of their unwillingness to fight in the Donbass.

 

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Fears of War as Russia Seizes Ukraine Navy Ships After Gunfire in Black Sea

Kiev: Russia said Sunday that it has seized three Ukrainian naval ships by force in a strait near Moscow-annexed Crimea, sparking alarm among Kiev's Western allies and raising fears of military escalation.

Ukraine's navy had accused Russia of the unprecedented incident including firing on its vessels in the Kerch Strait, a narrow waterway that gives access to the Sea of Azov that is used by Ukraine and Russia.




"In order to stop the Ukrainian military ships, weapons were used," Russia's FSB security service said, confirming that "three Ukrainian navy ships were boarded and searched."

Ukraine's navy said the incident took place as two small warships and a tugboat were heading through the strait for the port of Mariupol.


It said a Russian border guard vessel rammed the tugboat in "openly aggressive actions" and then fired on the ships, immobilising all three.

It also said the Kerch Strait was blocked by a tanker, and that Russian military aircraft were flying over the area.

Ukraine said six of its soldiers were injured, while the FSB reported only three had suffered non-life threatening injuries and were given medical treatment.

"Having breached this morning the Russian border, the three Ukrainian ships -- the Berdyansk, the Nikopol and the Yani Kapu -- tried again on November 25 at 19:00 (Moscow time) to conduct illegal actions in Russian territorial waters," the FSB said.

The FSB, which oversees the border guard service, also said the Ukrainian ships had failed to respond to the "legal demands" of the Russian authorities and that they were aiming "to create a conflict situation in this region."

- West urges restraint -

The European Union issued a statement saying: "We expect Russia to restore freedom of passage at the Kerch strait and urge all to act with utmost restraint to de-escalate the situation immediately."

NATO in a statement also urged "restraint and de-escalation", and called on Russia "to ensure unhindered access to Ukrainian ports in the Azov Sea, in accordance with international law".

The confrontation at sea is a dangerous development in the long-running conflict pitting Ukraine against Russia and Russian-backed rebels in the east of the country.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said "Russian special forces have taken over some ships". He called a meeting of his military cabinet to evaluate and determine his country's next steps.

Ukraine's foreign ministry said it considered "these aggressive actions" a violation of international law that would be met with "an international and diplomatic legal response", and its envoy to the United Nations said on Twitter that the country will make an immediate appeal to the Security Council.

Russia for its part accused Kiev of illegally entering its waters and deliberately provoking a conflict. Moscow claims the waters off Crimea after annexing the peninsula in 2014.

Russian politicians accused Ukraine of acting at the behest of its Western allies and deliberately attempting to escalate the conflict.

Crimean leader Sergei Aksyonov wrote on Facebook that he "was sure the Western masters of the Kiev regime are behind this act of provocation".

Pyotr Tolstoy, deputy speaker of the Russian parliament, warned on Facebook that "the Ukrainian puppet authorities... are risking unleashing a large military conflict".

"One thing is clear: Russia won't allow military provocations in its territorial waters," he said.

- Increased Russian controls -

Ukraine said it gave Russia advance warning of its ships' route, which its vessels are obliged to take to reach the Sea of Azov.

The latest incident comes after the Ukrainian navy in September complained of "acts of provocation" by Russian border guards against its ships taking the same route.

Ukraine has increased the number of its navy ships and border guard patrols in the Sea of Azov after Russia deployed five more warships there.

Kiev says its naval buildup is due to Russia stepping up controls in the area this year and carrying out lengthy checks on commercial shipping that were very costly for freight and port companies.

Kiev and the West have accused Moscow of deliberately blocking ships from accessing Mariupol, which has vital access to heavy industry in the region.

Mariupol is close to the region of eastern Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists in a conflict that has caused at least 10,000 deaths since 2014.

The United States, a key ally to Ukraine, is opposed to Russia's takeover of Crimea and is looking to reduce Ukraine's dependency on Russian gas pipelines.

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The Ukrainian army is in full combat readiness. At 16.00 (Kyiv time), martial law will be introduced. A start is mobilization in the Corps of Reserve. The Ukrainian government has turned to partner countries for the provision of military assistance.
All very seriously
 

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Fears of War as Russia Seizes Ukraine Navy Ships After Gunfire in Black Sea

Kiev: Russia said Sunday that it has seized three Ukrainian naval ships by force in a strait near Moscow-annexed Crimea, sparking alarm among Kiev's Western allies and raising fears of military escalation.

Ukraine's navy had accused Russia of the unprecedented incident including firing on its vessels in the Kerch Strait, a narrow waterway that gives access to the Sea of Azov that is used by Ukraine and Russia.




"In order to stop the Ukrainian military ships, weapons were used," Russia's FSB security service said, confirming that "three Ukrainian navy ships were boarded and searched."

Ukraine's navy said the incident took place as two small warships and a tugboat were heading through the strait for the port of Mariupol.


It said a Russian border guard vessel rammed the tugboat in "openly aggressive actions" and then fired on the ships, immobilising all three.

It also said the Kerch Strait was blocked by a tanker, and that Russian military aircraft were flying over the area.

Ukraine said six of its soldiers were injured, while the FSB reported only three had suffered non-life threatening injuries and were given medical treatment.

"Having breached this morning the Russian border, the three Ukrainian ships -- the Berdyansk, the Nikopol and the Yani Kapu -- tried again on November 25 at 19:00 (Moscow time) to conduct illegal actions in Russian territorial waters," the FSB said.

The FSB, which oversees the border guard service, also said the Ukrainian ships had failed to respond to the "legal demands" of the Russian authorities and that they were aiming "to create a conflict situation in this region."

- West urges restraint -

The European Union issued a statement saying: "We expect Russia to restore freedom of passage at the Kerch strait and urge all to act with utmost restraint to de-escalate the situation immediately."

NATO in a statement also urged "restraint and de-escalation", and called on Russia "to ensure unhindered access to Ukrainian ports in the Azov Sea, in accordance with international law".

The confrontation at sea is a dangerous development in the long-running conflict pitting Ukraine against Russia and Russian-backed rebels in the east of the country.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said "Russian special forces have taken over some ships". He called a meeting of his military cabinet to evaluate and determine his country's next steps.

Ukraine's foreign ministry said it considered "these aggressive actions" a violation of international law that would be met with "an international and diplomatic legal response", and its envoy to the United Nations said on Twitter that the country will make an immediate appeal to the Security Council.

Russia for its part accused Kiev of illegally entering its waters and deliberately provoking a conflict. Moscow claims the waters off Crimea after annexing the peninsula in 2014.

Russian politicians accused Ukraine of acting at the behest of its Western allies and deliberately attempting to escalate the conflict.

Crimean leader Sergei Aksyonov wrote on Facebook that he "was sure the Western masters of the Kiev regime are behind this act of provocation".

Pyotr Tolstoy, deputy speaker of the Russian parliament, warned on Facebook that "the Ukrainian puppet authorities... are risking unleashing a large military conflict".

"One thing is clear: Russia won't allow military provocations in its territorial waters," he said.

- Increased Russian controls -

Ukraine said it gave Russia advance warning of its ships' route, which its vessels are obliged to take to reach the Sea of Azov.

The latest incident comes after the Ukrainian navy in September complained of "acts of provocation" by Russian border guards against its ships taking the same route.

Ukraine has increased the number of its navy ships and border guard patrols in the Sea of Azov after Russia deployed five more warships there.

Kiev says its naval buildup is due to Russia stepping up controls in the area this year and carrying out lengthy checks on commercial shipping that were very costly for freight and port companies.

Kiev and the West have accused Moscow of deliberately blocking ships from accessing Mariupol, which has vital access to heavy industry in the region.

Mariupol is close to the region of eastern Ukraine controlled by Russian-backed separatists in a conflict that has caused at least 10,000 deaths since 2014.

The United States, a key ally to Ukraine, is opposed to Russia's takeover of Crimea and is looking to reduce Ukraine's dependency on Russian gas pipelines.

@Akim @gadeshi @Brahmos_ii


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Russian Forces Take Big Number Of Ukrainian Navy Sailors Prisoner After Kerch Strait Clash – Details



On Sunday afternoon, Russian forces confronted Ukrainian military ships attempting to illegally (i.e. without permission) enter Russian waters in the strategic and high-contested Kerch Strait area.

The resulting clash saw Russian forces neutralize and then take possession of three Ukrainian military ships – two of them classified as “armored artillery boats” according to official statements.

In the last hour, official Ukrainian sources clarified that the three seized vessels had between them some 23 service personnel which have now fallen into Russian custody. Apparently six of the navy sailors are wounded, two of them “badly”.

Following the clash, the Ukrainian government declared a 60-day state of martial law (incorrectly reported by some sources as literally “state of war”); the extent to which emergency laws will apply, nationwide or local to the incident area, is unclear.

For its part, Russia has called an emergency UN Security Council meeting in order to officially discuss at an international level the events that took place in the Kerch Strait on Sunday.

https://en.muraselon.com/2018/11/russian-forces-ukrainian-navy-sailors-kerch-strait/
 

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@Akim You think this is really going to war ? Or will this be sorted if Russians give the vessels and crew back ?

Also, what were the Ukrainian vessels doing in Russian waters?
 
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