Chinese Troops Intrude into Indian Territory in Ladakh!!!

what options India have if china doesn't pull back from ladakh?


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Power respect power, the sooner we show power the better it is. BTW IA and GOI should do something about those men inside 10 km of our border.
 

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How could we accomplish ..

0. No dedicated Snow dress for such areas
1. No light BP.
2. Lack of spare for AR.
3. No proper back pack
4. No Infrastructure for supply
5. Lack of helipads.
6. Lack of ammo.
7. Lack of Sophisticated Bunkers and Surveillance system.
8. No Arty cover or Air cover for need within 24 hours.
9. No doctrine in case of an invasion small or large scale.
10. BS Pr of media leading to low morale in force.

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Corruption in defense deals, Political Interfering with Military conducts, Demoralizing of Indian Army via spreading spiced up conducts in force, Negligence of important arms in force, No radical changes to improve force fighting style no improvised efforts to make up the deficiency..

This way we are heading for a larger 1962, With N.E cutoff, Portion of Jammu gone and Kashmir is gone completely off..
No America or Russia`s is going to save you but yourself, At best they will bring a ceasefire at best but land what is gone will never come back..


@Ray Sir..

Your thoughts..
 
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arya;719341[B said:
]dont blame dhotiwala our force officer are responsible for our condition [/B], they became slave to leaders ,they forget oath .
i dont think so, as this is not pakistan where all decisions are taken by army,

In India all decision are taken by dhoti walas in parliament.

yes ,army patrolling should be there specially after what happen in kargil
 

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How could we accomplish ..

0. No dedicated Snow dress for such areas
1. No light BP.
2. Lack of spare for AR.
3. No proper back pack
4. No Infrastructure for supply
5. Lack of helipads.
6. Lack of ammo.
7. Lack of Sophisticated Bunkers and Surveillance system.
8. No Arty cover or Air cover for need within 24 hours.
9. No doctrine in case of an invasion small or large scale.
10. BS Pr of media leading to low morale in force.

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Corruption in defense deals, Political Interfering with Military conducts, Demoralizing of Indian Army via spreading spiced up conducts in force, Negligence of important arms in force, No radical changes to improve force fighting style no improvised efforts to make up the deficiency..

This way we are heading for a larger 1962..
you forgot lack of helis
 

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How could we accomplish ..

0. No dedicated Snow dress for such areas
1. No light BP.
2. Lack of spare for AR.
3. No proper back pack
4. No Infrastructure for supply
5. Lack of helipads.
6. Lack of ammo.
7. Lack of Sophisticated Bunkers and Surveillance system.
8. No Arty cover or Air cover for need within 24 hours.
9. No doctrine in case of an invasion small or large scale.
10. BS Pr of media leading to low morale in force.

========================================

Corruption in defense deals, Political Interfering with Military conducts, Demoralizing of Indian Army via spreading spiced up conducts in force, Negligence of important arms in force, No radical changes to improve force fighting style no improvised efforts to make up the deficiency..

This way we are heading for a larger 1962..
Reality bites! these small incidences make us realize about our preparedness . Even if we do not wake up now then be ready for the ongoing humiliation and even bigger humiliation. As we are not prepared then who is responsible?? Somebody has to be held accountable??

Here our politicians busy doing everything except speeding defence preparedness, one of them is bothered with own clean image for Life Time Award for the All Time Most Honest Defence Minister.
 

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yes ,army patrolling should be there specially after what happen in kargil
Atleast , we can heavily infest the area of Chinese encroachment with Anti-Personnel Mines. It will deter them frequent in this part of the border.
@Kunal Sir, do not tell me that we do not have even enough anti personnel mines.
 
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@Kunal sir, those who want foreign arms must have answer to what you have posted.
 
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Land mine works over ground not under tons of snow, One need to establish Chain of sophisticated bunkers with state of the art communication system so does arty / mortar for quick response and smaller UAV for surveillance, this matter should have been attended years ago ..
 

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If today we loss, thousand die they will come and market there product with images of our dead soldiers on there poster..

What else one can expect for greedy business men and there partners..

@Kunal sir, those who want foreign arms must have answer to what you have posted.
 
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Another important point is that today we are not ready for war with panda. At least we need 8 to 10 months time or if we can delay this for 5 years when Nirbhay and MRCA come in numbers plus training for our guys for mountain war fare. Therefore Govt in way doing right thing by delaying any aggressive response to this. We should test A5 or A4 in ASAT mode to tell Chini that we mean business, even if they are having picnic in our land just like Pakis did in kargil.

We should also make use of diplomatic channel to strongly put our point but we should also be ready to give bloody nose to pandawhich would hurt its image in future.
 

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Atleast , we can heavily infest the area of Chinese encroachment with Anti-Personnel Mines. It will deter them frequent in this part of the border.
@Kunal Sir, do not tell me that we do not have even enough anti personnel mines.
its LAC not border. I don't think so you are allowed to mine that.

both sides claim that land as there own

Rest ex-army members can tel better
 
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Chinese are making mockery of delay in defence procurement of IA..:p:p:p:p

or they want to create pressure by showing IA there level of preparation

Did pakis requested chinis to do this act ???
 

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InA has become laughing stock, the news posted above revealed that InA has established a camp near their camp. Oh fish ! what they are doing in those camps, playing marbles ? Why they do not camp right into Chinese territory (of our perception), because Chinese are aggressive they value the land in their occupation but we do not ?
 

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Our army didn't intrude into Ladakh: China - India - DNA

Their position is always the same. First they provoke but never admit for just in case if situation escalate they can justify their actions. On the other hand Indians will first tell the world that the border is peaceful at the same time they will officially expose their own weaknesses( thanks to the scams they do).
 

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@h&r IA is doing as per GOI instructions. What is happning no one like. Bottom line is we are not prepaired for war, but it is thrust on us we will give them bloody reply.


We have to deal with this smartly.
 

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There is a extensive network of Mines both on LAC and LOC, Location should not be dicussed..

But there are places where Land mines are ineffective..
 

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The basics of Military is Infantry, One should always focus on them..

But here we have priority of those which have kick backs and holes for corruptions..
 

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I like your optimism.

Brave armies take decision themselves and they always have that tactical independence, they are their to project their nuisance value if they have, not to exchange sweets on Dipawali. Has your army intruded their borders ever ? The answer is no. Why because they know Chinese will come hard and heavy at them.

PLA mutilated Russian soldiers during peace time in past. Regardless of how they pulled themselves out from that situation is a different discussion but the message was delivered and I bet PLA's erratic behavior disclosed their effective will from unit level to nuclear war fighting.

Chinese have intruded at the night time and InA wasn't aware of it. Like in Kargil, like during Pakistan raids the InA is responsible to correct its mistake and respond fast before the issues is taken up by safari suit wearing politicians.

Our miseries are made more daunting then by traitors like Swamy of 'The Hindu' newspaper and many others who will write books later on holding India responsible and opposite side righteous. The same people not only work for enemy but are sleeper cells of organizations within, who to hide their failures will use them to deceive and distract population from real issues.


@h&r IA is doing as per GOI instructions. What is happning no one like. Bottom line is we are not prepaired for war, but it is thrust on us we will give them bloody reply.
We have to deal with this smartly.
India, China holding flag meetings on incursion issue: Khurshid - The Times of India

The bugger is misleading the nation that the flag meeting are on.

"We are addressing this issue in an appropriate manner. We just do not want any departure from proportionality. I do not think we should allow this to get beyond the immediate area and we should retain at that level and not allow it to escape that level," Khurshid said.
Has he already conceded that area to China ?

Saya Sir, Mark my words, the Chinese are there to build a permanent post and your mighty army is camping in their vicinity for some rag-tag, itzy-bitzy, cover up symbolic presence, of no military value.
 
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