Chinese Su 35s vs Indian's Rafale MMRCA winner Sukhoi Su-35 General characteristics Crew: 1 Length: 21.9 m (72.9 ft) Wingspan: 15.3 m (50.2 ft) Height: 5.90 m (19.4 ft) Wing area: 62.0 mÂ² (667 ftÂ²) Empty weight: 18,400 kg (40,570 lb) Loaded weight: 25,300 kg (56,660 lb) Max. takeoff weight: 34,500 kg (76,060 lb) Powerplant: 2 Ã— Saturn 117S with TVC nozzle turbofan Dry thrust: 8,800 kgf (86.3 kN, 19,400 lbf) each Thrust with afterburner: 14,500 kgf (142 kN, 31,900 lbf) each Dassault Rafale General characteristics Crew: 1â€“2 Length: 15.27 m (50.1 ft) Wingspan: 10.80 m (35.4 ft) Height: 5.34 m (17.5 ft) Wing area: 45.7 mÂ² (492 ftÂ²) Empty weight: C: 9,500 kilograms (21,000 lb) B: 9,770 kilograms (21,500 lb) M: 10,196 kilograms (22,480 lb) () Loaded weight: 14,016 kg (30,900 lb) Max. takeoff weight: 24,500 kg (C/D), 22,200 kg (M) (54,000 lb) Powerplant: 2 Ã— Snecma M88-2 turbofans Dry thrust: 50.04 kN (11,250 lbf) each Thrust with afterburner: 75.62 kN (17,000 lbf) each Fuel capacity: 4,700 kg (10,000 lb) internal Performance SU 35:Maximum speed: Mach 2.25 (2,390 km/h, 1,490 mph) at altitude Range: 3,600 km (1,940 nmi) ; (1,580 km, 850 nmi near ground level) Ferry range: 4,500 km (2,430 nmi) with external fuel tanks Service ceiling: 18,000 m (59,100 ft) Rate of climb: >280 m/s (>55,100 ft/min) Wing loading: 408 kg/mÂ² (84.9 lb/ftÂ²) Thrust/weight: 1.13 Performance Rafale:Maximum speed: High altitude: Mach 1.8+ (2,130+ km/h, 1,050+ knots) Low altitude: Mach 1.1+ (1,390 km/h, 750 knots) Range: 3,700+ km (2,000+ nmi) Combat radius: 1,852+ km (1,000+ nmi) on penetration mission Service ceiling: 16,800 m (55,000 ft) Rate of climb: 304.8+ m/s (60,000+ ft/min) Wing loading: 306 kg/mÂ² (62.8 lb/ftÂ²) Thrust/weight: 0.988 (100% fuel, 2 EM A2A missile, 2 IR A2A missile) version M Armament Su35: 1 Ã— 30 mm GSh-30 internal cannon with 150 rounds 2 Ã— wingtip rails for R-73 air-to-air missiles or ECM pods 12 Ã— wing and fuselage stations for up to 8,000 kg (17,630 lb) of ordnance, including a variety of air-to-air missiles, air-to-surface missiles, rockets, and bombs such as: Vympel R-27: R-27R, R-27ER, R-27T, R-27ET, R-27EP, R-27AE Vympel R-77: R-77, and the proposed R-77M1, R-77T Vympel R-73: R-73E, R-73M, R-74M Kh-31: Kh-31A, Kh-31P Anti-Radiation Missile Kh-59 Kh-29: Kh-29T, Kh-29L KAB-500L laser-guided bomb KAB-1500 laser-guided bomb LGB-250 laser-guided bomb FAB-250 250 kilograms (550 lb) unguided bombs FAB-500 500 kilograms (1,100 lb) unguided bombs S-25LD laser-guided rocket, S-250 unguided rocket B-8 unguided S-8 rocket pods B-13 unguided S-13 rocket pods Avionics Su35:Irbis-E passive phased array radar Armament Rafale: Guns: 1Ã— 30 mm (1.18 in) GIAT 30/719B autocannon with 125 rounds Hardpoints: 14 for Air Force versions (Rafale B/C), 13 for Navy version (Rafale M) with a capacity of 9,500 kg (21,000 lb) external fuel and ordnance and provisions to carry combinations of: Missiles: MBDA MICA IR or EM or Magic II and MBDA Meteor air-to-air mssiles in the future Air-to-ground: MBDA Apache or Storm Shadow-SCALP EG or AASM-Hammer or GBU-12 Paveway II or AS-30L Air-to-surface: AM 39-Exocet Deterrence: ASMP-A nuclear missile Other: Thales Damocles targeting pod RECO NG (New Generation) reconnaissance pod up to 5 drop tanks The Rafale can also carry a buddy-buddy refuelling pod Avionics Thales RBE2 radar Thales SPECTRA electronic warfare system. Thales/SAGEM-OSF Optronique Secteur Frontal infra-red search and track system. I know its yet another Vs thread..But am really confused and doubt Rafale against su35s... Chinese to buy 24 su 35 and 176 more follow on order expected.As they did with Su 27 flanker. Should we opt for rafale.Insteed EF and Su 35 ?