Chinese passing off fake drugs as "Made in India"..

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Oops I meant genetic...sorry that is typos.....Antibiotics are?...ring any bells?...Antiviral drugs are protiens.
 

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Oops I meant genetic...sorry that is typos.....Antibiotics are?...ring any bells?...Antiviral drugs are protiens.
Dude...are you serious again?


Antiviral drugs are usually NOT proteins.
Antibiotics are usually NOT proteins.

You need to look up some common anti-virals: try Rimantadine and Amantadine. Look up the structures and tell me again if it looks like it's protein derived.

Sigh........I seriously don't believe you took a pharmacology class.


Proteins are hard to administer b/c they are very unstable and they're hard to protect against the body's innate protease mechanisms (they would degrade it upon entry).
 

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Dude...are you serious again?


Antiviral drugs are usually NOT proteins.
Antibiotics are usually NOT proteins.

You need to look up some common anti-virals: try Rimantadine and Amantadine. Look up the structures and tell me again if it looks like it's protein derived.

Sigh........


Proteins are hard to administer b/c they are very unstable and they're hard to protect against the body's innate protease mechanisms (they would degrade it upon entry).
Well some of the anti-viral drugs are proteins, for example, interferons. Antibiotics are not proteins but they are not chemically synthesized in lab. You need an appropriately mutated fungi to produce antibiotics in a large scale and make them cheap. So, even if you reverse engineer an antibiotic, it is difficult to make in huge quantities as long as you don't have the mutated fungi.
 

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Yes Daredevil, you are correct.

I presume you're talking about Beta-Lactams. Those are produced from harvesting fungi. Other anti-biotics are synthesized directly.


Anyways, my initial point was that copying and producing drugs even under patent protection is feasible and relatively easy. India is most famous for this kind of activity.


Here is a good article about the conflict between India illegaly copying drugs under patent protection by western companies.

http://www.american.com/archive/2008/may-05-08/india-vs-the-wto
 

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This discussion is not about whether it is tough to copy a drug or not. It is about systematic terrorism used by a country which is dreaming of becoming a super power. Guys stick to topic please. No more OT posts.
 

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Yes Daredevil, you are correct.

I presume you're talking about Beta-Lactams. Those are produced from harvesting fungi. Other anti-biotics are synthesized directly.


Anyways, my initial point was that copying and producing drugs even under patent protection is feasible and relatively easy. India is most famous for this kind of activity.
Not only beta-lactams but most of the antibiotics in use have a very complex organic structure and is not feasible and cost-effective to synthesize.

Most of the drugs used for treatment are usually used to inhibit enzymes and certain process that might cause the disease. These drugs are simpler in structure relatively to antibiotic structures and all such drugs are synthesized directly and yes they can be copied.

Till now drugs had product patents. So, people have copied them and modified a little bit which doesn't change its activity and then said that it is different from the main drug and so such patents doesn't apply. In order to overcome this, patents are now made process based (process patenting), that is, if a drug is synthesized using a particular process, you cannot make the said copy of drug using the same process. And it is quite difficult to impossible to make such drugs in more than one way. That is the reason almost all Indian companies have jumped to the bandwagon of R&D to make their own new drug molecules.

EDIT: Nitesh I made this post before seeing your post.
 

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Ok this is it now onwards OT posts will be deleted. Stick to topic.
 

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This discussion is not about whether it is tough to copy a drug or not. It is about systematic terrorism used by a country which is dreaming of becoming a super power. Guys stick to topic please. No more OT posts.
Maybe they're no sure if the drugs will work?
If they work they're 'Made in China'
If they Don't:Why take the blame?
 

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Maybe they're no sure if the drugs will work?
If they work they're 'Made in China'
If they Don't:Why take the blame?
ya , people buying these fake drugs , money goes to china ,
if people die of these drugs blame comes on india.....
 

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Maybe they're no sure if the drugs will work?
If they work they're 'Made in China'
If they Don't:Why take the blame?
IMO, they must be SURE that those drugs dont work.........thats why they brand them as 'made in India'.
 

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Proof being collected on India tag for fake Chinese drugs

Proof being collected on India tag for fake Chinese drugs

June 9th, 2009 - 9:54 pm ICT by IANS

New Delhi, June 9 (IANS) India has begun collecting proof from African countries like Nigeria, Ivory Coast and Ghana where fake Chinese drugs are reportedly being passed off with the “Made in India” tag, earning disrepute for its $10.7-billion pharma industry.

“We have already lodged a protest with the Chinese authorities - at the mission here and also through our embassy in Beijing,” said a senior official in the commerce ministry, referring to the recent seizure of a similar consignment in Nigeria.

“Now the process is on for collecting proof. We need to get hold of the actual fake drugs, find out how it is being peddled and, importantly, trace it to the factories in China where it is being manufactured,” the official said, requesting anonymity.

“For this we need, and have also sought, the help of Chinese authorities.”

Commerce ministry officials said there were reports earlier of fake drugs in some of the African countries being passed off as “Made in India” even though their origins could be traced to China.

“But we earlier thought these were very small in number being sold in places like small mobile-phone card kiosks. But we lodged our protest - protest, not as in a protest - but seeking help from Chinese authorities,” said an official.

But after the confiscation of a large consignment of fake anti-malaria drugs in Nigeria that had a “Made in India” tag but was found to have been manufactured in China, the Indian mission in the African country alerted the commerce ministry.

“There is no reason for Nigeria to be the only country to be receiving such consignment,” said the letter written by Indian High Commissioner to Nigeria Mahesh Kumar Sachdev.

The Organisation of Pharmaceutical Producers of India (OPPI), a representative body of the $10.7-billion pharmaceutical industry in the country, has been concerned about the issue of fake drugs and has strong guidelines for members.

“Counterfeit medicines represent an unacceptable risk to patient safety whilst at the same time jeopardizing the original manufacturer’s image, reputation and, in extreme cases, their economic viability,” the organisation said.
 

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I hope after they collect the Proof the Do something about it rather than sit on it
 

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India lodges protests with China over fake drugs


IANS
First Published : 11 Jun 2009 01:38:02 PM IST
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NEW DELHI: India today said it is lodging with China a strong protest against fake anti-malarial 'Made-in-India' drugs detained by Nigerian authorities, maligning the Indian pharmaceutical industry for consignments, which originated from the neighbouring country.

"Taking serious note of the action by scrupulous elements to malign Indian generic pharma industry, Embassy of India, Beijing, has been requested to lodge a strong protest with concerned Chinese authorities and also to impress upon them to take stringent action against such scrupulous elements," a Commerce Ministry statement said here.

It said the government's Drug Regulatory Authority (NAFDAC) has reported about the detention of a large consignment of fake anti-malarial generic pharmaceuticals labelled 'Made in India' but produced in China.

"After a laboratory analysis by NAFDAC, the drugs have been found to be fake and had it not been intercepted, about 64,2000 adults would have been affected," it said.

According to the Indian High Commissioner in Nigeria, the consignment containing Maloxine and Amalar tablets, used for the treatment of Malaria, were valued at 32.1 million Naira and were produced, packed and shipped from China.

The Department of Commerce has already conveyed "serious concern" to China's Ambassador to India Zhang Yan here "with the request that strict actions be taken against the involved parties".

http://www.expressbuzz.com/edition/...ina,+pharmaceuticals&SectionName=pWehHe7IsSU=
 

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Most Chinese companies are actually state owned. I wouldn't be surprised if this particular company was state owned and merely following the directives of the higher ups in the Chinese government.
 

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Made in India labelled fake generic medicines seized: Nigerian Government

Jun 11th, 2009 at 7:14 pm | By NVO Bureau |




New Delhi: Nigerian Government Drug Regulatory Authority (NAFDAC) has reported about the detention of a large consignment of fake anti-malarial generic pharmaceuticals labelled “Made in India” but produced in China. After a laboratory analysis by NAFDAC, the drugs have been found to be fake and had it not been intercepted, about 642000 adults would have been affected. The Indian High Commissioner in Nigeria has indicated that the consignment containing Maloxine and Amalar tablets used for treatment of Malaria were valued at 32.1million Naira and were produced, packed and shipped from China.

Taking serious note of the action by unscrupulous elements to malign Indian generic pharma industry, Embassy of India, Beijing, has been requested to lodge a strong protest with concerned Chinese authorities and also to impress upon them to take stringent action against such unscrupulous elements.

Government of India has launched a Mission for brand promotion of Indian pharmaceutical industry in Africa. Recently, a high level delegation led by Joint Secretary, Department of Commerce, visited Addis Ababa to meet the African Health Ministers. An effort was made to sensitize the Ministers and senior officials of African nations that Indian generic industry is as safe as its patented versions and is available at much reasonable prices. It was also emphasized that India itself has launched a massive offensive against manufacture and sale of spurious medicines. Drug Controller General of India regularly conducts on-the-spot inspections and lift samples at random. A study of samples of drugs tested all over the country in the last 4 to 5 years, reveals that about 0.3% to 0.4% of around 40,000 samples fall within the category of spurious drugs.

Government of India’s serious concern was expressed to the Ambassador of China at New Delhi by the Department of Commerce, with the request that strict actions be taken against the involved parties, as this act would be seen to be giving credence to the allegations that generic medicines are often counterfeited and further ‘Made in India’ label would malign India’s name. India expects China to take strong measures in this aspect. India would intensify its efforts to strengthen its position on generic medicines in Africa.

India has acquired a strong position as a producer and exporter of inexpensive generic medicines which can treat with efficacy and safety at par with their patented alternatives, but at a very reasonable cost. Exports of Indian generic medicines have addressed healthcare needs of developing countries. Generic medicines serve the purpose of treating poor people who can ill-afford extremely expensive patented and branded drugs coming from multinationals, largely operating from the developed countries.


Made in India labelled fake generic medicines seized: Nigerian Government | NVO News
 

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CommMin irked by Chinese ‘Made in India’ drugs; Embassy in Peking lodges complaint

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Posted: Friday , Jun 12, 2009 at 2338 hrs IST


New Delhi:

With concrete evidence that China is pushing fake drugs with ‘Made in India’ labels into the African market, the commerce ministry has decided to come down heavily on the Chinese administration and make them accountable for the problem.

The ministry has requested the Indian embassy in Beijing to lodge a strong protest with the concerned Chinese authorities and to ensure that strict action is taken against the perpetrators.

According to an official statement by the commerce and industry ministry, the Nigerian government’s Drug Regulatory Authority has reported to the Indian government about the detention of a large consignment of fake anti-malarial generic pharmaceutical labelled ‘Made in India’ but produced in China. “After a laboratory analysis, the drugs have been found to be fake,” it said.

“India expects China to take strong measures in this aspect. India would intensify its efforts to strengthen its position on generic medicines in Africa,” the statement added.


CommMin irked by Chinese ‘Made in India’ drugs

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'China-made' fake drugs investigated

By Shan Juan and Xie Chuanjiao (China Daily)

2009-06-13 08:46


The State Food and Drug Administration (SFDA) is investigating an allegation by Nigeria that a consignment of drugs labeled 'Made in India' were, in fact, fake pharmaceuticals produced in China, said SFDA spokesperson Yan Jiangying.

The Times of India reported this week that the forged anti-malaria pharmaceuticals were "a large consignment" and that they were seized by the Drug Regulatory Authority (NAFDAC) of Nigeria.

Had the drugs not been intercepted, about 642,000 adults would likely have taken the potentially harmful product, said NAFDAC.

"We are highly concerned about the case and are sending investigating officials to the Chinese provinces involved, including Guangdong," Yan told a press conference.
Overseas pharmacy companies should deal only with registered Chinese drug producers and traders that are recognized by SFDA, said Cui Enxue, director of the SFDA's drug safety inspection bureau.

"We'll investigate the case thoroughly and refer any Chinese drug companies involved to the law-enforcement and justice department if they are found to have broken the law," Cui said, citing the importance of international cooperation and information-sharing to the investigation.

Yan also told the press conference that the SFDA will continue working with the police in the joint war against fake and inferior drugs in terms of technological support and the handing-over of cases.

To better secure drug safety, Cui also called for stricter implementation of the Criminal Law for crimes involving fake drugs.

The call followed a special judicial interpretation released two weeks ago by the Supreme People's Court and the Supreme People's Procuratorate on the punishment of those involved in counterfeit and inferior drug production and sales. The interpretation elaborates on the contents of the pertinent part of the Criminal Law.

The interpretation makes it clear that "serious and especially serious" harm from fake and inferior drugs, a term in the law, refers to deaths, severe disabilities and serious injuries of three people or more.

According to the Criminal Law, violators will be sentenced to between three years and life in prison and be subject to fines.


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