CHINESE Medium Altitude Long Endurance DRONES

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I don't think it is possible to hack high level American technology.

They can copy design and external looks which is available on internet ..... But most important parts are sensors, cameras, radars and electronics.
Americans are far superior in those areas.

India is not far behind China , within 3-4 years they will be able to make such kind of UAVs.
fine.
but why not talk after try?


the atitude "talk but never do' can not won respect.
 
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Chinese UAS technology is on par with the West now:

AVIC Showcases Full-Service Military UAV Portfolio In Dubai


While the appearance of a mock-up of the Cloud Shadow UAV on the outdoor static display has grabbed a lot of attention at the Dubai Airshow, just as fascinating is a PowerPoint presentation that has been playing on AVIC's stand. In it, the Chinese manufacturer is presenting an end-to-end unmanned aircraft capability set, encompassing a range of airframes and payloads with complementary capabilities and a ground-control station (GCS).

These are all integrated into a holistic concept of operations that will look very familiar to anyone who has seen a presentation by western militaries on layered ISTAR (intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance) capabilities. The company calls this the AVIC Total UAS Solution: all parts of it are made in China and are available for export.

At the tactical end of the Solution are two small RPAS, the A-Hawk I and A-Hawk II. Models of both are on display at the stand.

The A-Hawk I is an octocopter with a claimed 65kg payload that can be used for package delivery and surveillance. It has a 30min flight time and a ceiling of 3,000m. The larger A-Hawk II has four belt-driven ducted rotors with a claimed endurance of up to four hours, with flight possible up to 5,000m and a payload limit of 120kg. The system has its own, company-developed, flight control software and GCS.

AVIC is positioning the A-Hawk II as a weapons platform. The model is fitted with two small missiles and a product card lists "Anti-terrorism: attacking terrorists and their bases" and "Military attacking" as its primary missions, with firefighting and cargo transportation roles also touted.

The next layer of ISTAR is provided by the Wing Loong family of aircraft, which perform a function similar to the General Atomics Predator and Reaper.

The long-established Wing Loong I, which has been sold to countries including the UAE and Saudi Arabia, can carry two laser-guided missiles as well as a range of ISTAR payloads (AVIC literature includes mention of an AIS - Automatic Identification System - payload, as well as ELINT, COMINT and radar jammer options). The presentation gives a first-flight date for the Wing Loong I of October 30, 2007 - the date had previously been reported as two years later.

The larger Wing Loong II, which first flew on February 27th this year, is shown carrying 12 weapons on six hardpoints. These include the 50kg BA-7 guided missile and LS-6 precision-guided glide bomb. Videos showed apparently successful engagement of ground targets.

The platform carries a SAR/GMTI (synthetic aperture radar/ground moving target indicator) radar. According to the presentation, the platform's EO sensor is slaved by the SAR, which would enable the system to automatically assist an operator to positively identify a target.

At the higher altitude part of the Total UAS Solution portfolio sits the Cloud Shadow family of aircraft. AVIC says the type first flew on May 16, 2016, but does not specify which variant. There are three configurations of the platform currently promoted: imagery reconnaissance (designated CS-1), electronic reconnaissance (CS-2), and reconnaissance-strike (CS-3). Each is based on the WP-11C turbojet engine.

The first two have an internal 200kg payload capacity while the CS-3 boasts an external payload of double that, spread across four pylons. According to the presentation, a full load-out would consist of a single FT-7A - perhaps a variant of the FT-7 100kg range-extended, precision-guided bomb - and a pair of LS-6/50s, the 50kg version of the LS-6 bomb which Australian defense think-tank Air Power Australia described, in a 2009 report, as analogous to the U.S.'s small diameter bomb.

The CS-2 features a pair of ELINT and COMINT panel sensors in a fairing below the nose. AVIC claims a frequency range of 0.8-18GHz at up to 400km for the former and 0.1-2GHz at up to 200km for the latter. The CS-1 carries SAR and LOROP (long range oblique photographic) sensors. An operational concept image in the presentation shows the aircraft flying 12-18 km inside the boundary with hostile airspace, and with effective ranges for the LOROP of 68 km beyond the line, and 70km for the SAR.

The booth also features a full-size demonstrator version of AVIC's GCS. This can be provided in fixed, vehicle-mounted or portable configurations, and features six user-defined touchscreen displays, a QWERTY keyboard with separate numerical keypad, and two joysticks. This can be used to control both the Wing Loong and Cloud Shadow aircraft.

The company also provides datalinks. These include a C/UHF-band line-of-sight link, Ku-, Ka- and S-band satellite links, an L-band miniature link for the A-Hawks, and all associated ground terminals.

http://m.aviationweek.com/dubai-air-show-2017
 
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Beihang University has just rolled out a mostly composite variant of the Chinese Navy's BZK 005

http://www.eastpendulum.com/le-drone-hale-tyw-1-de-luniversite-beihang-fait-son-roll-out

HALE TYW-1 drone from Beihang University rolls out
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HENRI KENHMANN

NOVEMBER 14, 2017

The sector of complex drones continues to become commonplace in China, and as proof, the major manufacturers are not alone in being able to design, manufacture, test and even market this kind of higher-end products and we see emerging more in addition to Chinese universities that are also attacking this market. The latest is Beihang University, also known as the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics or BUAA, which today unveiled its new TYW-1 "Tian Ying" drone (天鹰 in Chinese, Sky Hawk) , fresh out of the assembly line.

This High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) drone is 9.85 meters long and weighs 1500 kg on takeoff. Its large wingspan of 18 meters, a lightweight cell made of carbon fiber and the piston engine saving it provide a good enough autonomy, namely 40 hours in flight at a cruising speed of 150 km / h.

The drone is also able to carry 370 kg of payloads and fly up to 7,500 meters.

According to Beihang company official Zhang Ying (北航 长 鹰 航空 科技), a subsidiary created by Beihang at the end of August in Taizhou for the production and marketing of general aviation and military UAVs, including the "Tian Ying", the latter will be used mainly in land or sea reconnaissance missions. For this it is equipped with a seven-channel optronic ball, "able to identify the numbers on a license plate flying at 3000 meters altitude and a distance of 50 km".

There is also the presence of four visible pylons under the wing, suggesting that the drone could also be armed, but this remains to be confirmed. The drone is obviously not equipped SATCOM antenna, at least not for the moment, however it seems to provide a C-band Air-Sol antenna under the fuselage for Line-Of-Sight (LOS).

In terms of production capacity, Beihang Zhang Ying plans to produce annually, by 2019, one hundred large and small drones, and one hundred medium-sized drones. The projected turnover would reach at least 2 billion yuan , or about 258 million euro at the current exchange rate.




The drone "Tian Ying" is doing its roll-out, accompanied by two BZK-005 (?) (Image: 浙江 卫视)


The 7-way optronic ball of the "Tian Ying" drone (Image; 浙江 卫视)

It should be noted that the "Tian Ying" drone was designed and assembled in only 14 months, as of September 2016, it is the same phenomenon observed as another Chinese HALE drone, TB001 "Double-tailed Scorpion" , also developed by a Chinese university. But this time the very short cycle could come from a very different reason.


Indeed, the characteristics and the aerodynamic configuration of "Tian Ying" are similar to those of another drone designed by Beihang, the famous BZK-005 , which today performs strategic reconnaissance missions for the army of the air and the Chinese Navy (see our file " The Eastern Fleet reveals its drone regiment "). We also see the two drones filmed together in the report of a local television channel.


It is more than plausible that the "Tian Ying" is a modernized and exportable version of the drone BZK-005, since it is a question of proposing this drone on the international market, if one believes in the same televised report.


A BZK-005 drone in a military parade in 2015.


A BZK-005 drone photographed by the Japanese Army over the East China Sea (Image; 防衛 省)

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The Cloud Shadow HALE UAV display at the Dubai Airshow:

The only full scale mock-up shown was the armed CS-3 model.

Variants available:



CS-1: Image Reconnaissance with LOROP Camera and SAR
CS-2: Electronic Reconnaissance with fuselage antenna ELINT & COMINT
CS-3: Reconnaissance Strike version,







With the success of Chinese MALE drones in the Middle East market, maybe the only exportable Chinese HALE drone may find a customer
 
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The Cloud Shadow HALE UAV display at the Dubai Airshow:

The only full scale mock-up shown was the armed CS-3 model.

Variants available:



CS-1: Image Reconnaissance with LOROP Camera and SAR
CS-2: Electronic Reconnaissance with fuselage antenna ELINT & COMINT
CS-3: Reconnaissance Strike version,







With the success of Chinese MALE drones in the Middle East market, maybe the only exportable Chinese HALE drone may find a customer
This non-export variant of the Cloud shadow/wing shadow is powered by two WS500 turbofans of 500kg thrust each instead of the range limiting WP11C turbo jet on the Cloud shadow series.

The IR signature reduction levels on this UAV's rear end are more extensive than on the cloud shadow

The fourth prototype is pictured below:



Cloud Shadow:


The small WS500 turbofan:

 

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With the success of Chinese MALE drones in the Middle East market, maybe the only exportable Chinese HALE drone may find a customer
WP-11 turbojet is used in Silkworm missiles, if they buy one it won't last very long.
 

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This non-export variant of the Cloud shadow/wing shadow is powered by two WS500 turbofans of 500kg thrust each instead of the range limiting WP11C turbo jet on the Cloud shadow series.

The IR signature reduction levels on this UAV's rear end are more extensive than on the cloud shadow

The fourth prototype is pictured below:



Cloud Shadow:


The small WS500 turbofan:

Small discussion point. Doesn't the wing shadow look like the UAV captured on satellite photos of the Xingcheng training base, being tested on the catapults installed at that facility?



A persistent HALE UAV presence would be push out a CBG's ISR bubble hundreds of miles out from the carrier group itself.
 

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AV 500 rotary UCAV test firing an ATGM:


 
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Pics of the TYW-1




http://www.janes.com/article/75700/...m-technology-unveils-tyw-1-strike-capable-uav

China’s Beihang Unmanned Aircraft System Technology unveils TYW-1 strike-capable UAV

Richard D Fisher Jr
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15 November 2017

China’s Beihang Unmanned Aircraft System Technology unveiled its TYW-1 strike-capable reconnaissance UAV (seen here) on 13 November. Source: Via YOUUAV.com
China’s Beihang Unmanned Aircraft System Technology unveiled on 13 November its TYW-1 strike-capable reconnaissance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) and what appeared to be a new version of the BZK-005 multirole medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) UAV at the company’s new factory in the eastern Chinese city of Taizhou.
Unveiled on 13 November China's TYW-1 strike-capable reconnaissance UAV features four underwing pylons and is reported to have a maximum take-off weight of 1,500 kg. (Via YOUUAV.com)

The TYW-1, which has a wingspan of 18 m, features the same pusher-engine, twin-boom, outward-canted stabiliser design of the BZK-005, the latter of which is believed to be in service with the People’s Liberation Army (PLA).

The 9.85 m-long and 2.5 m-high TYW-1, however, is reported to have a maximum take-off weight of 1,500 kg compared with the 1,250 kg of the BZK-005.

According to Chinese media reports, the TYW-1 can carry a 370 kg payload, features four underwing pylons, has a ceiling of 7.5 km, an endurance of 40 hours, and can reach a top speed of 200 km/h.

The UAV is also equipped with an electro-optical system that can reportedly read a licence plate 50 km away from an altitude of 5,000 m. It also features both line-of-sight and satellite navigation and control systems.

The company also displayed what appeared to be a new version of the BZK-005 featuring a system mounted under the UAV's nose that could be electronic support measures (ESM), a radar, or a communication relay.

First revealed in a poster at the Airshow China 2004, the BZK-005 is believed to be in service with units of the People’s Liberation Army Navy Air Force (PLANAF) as well as with a special group subordinate to the Joint Staff Department of the Central Military Commission.
China's Beihang Unmanned Aircraft System Technology displayed on 13 November what appeared to be a new variant of the BZK-005 UAV. (Via mil.huanqiu.com)

In early April 2016 the BZK-005 was spotted on Woody Island in the South China Sea, and in September 2013 Japan Air Self-Defense Force F-15J aircraft intercepted a BZK-005 flying near the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands.

Beihang Unmanned Aircraft System Technology is an offshoot of the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics (BUAA), which originally developed the BZK-005 together with the Harbin Aircraft Industry Group.
 

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Interesting development of TB001 twin prop MALE UAV IN a cargo drop mission...

First attempt to drop a Chinese cargo drone

http://www.eastpendulum.com/premier-de-largage-dun-drone-cargo-chinois

The young Chinese pushing Tengden (腾盾科技), specialized in the development of UAVs and created there only two years, continues to be talked about by achieving the first emergency supplies drop test in China by its drone TB001 "Scorpion dual tail."

The test was conducted on behalf of the Chinese giant SF Express , the second largest logistics player and shipping of the country after the China Post, based on a real case of use of Huawei , another Chinese telecom giant . The scenario simulates the rapid delivery of emergency repair supplies by a drone for a ground relay station that has suffered damage as a result of a natural disaster, and the necessary equipment could not be routed through the ground route.

The drone of nearly three tons was off on December 26 from an airport in Yunnan, a very mountainous province in southeast China. After thirty minute flight, the "Scorpion dual tail" is down to three hundred meters before dropping a cargo pod designed for parachuting. Huawei's staff then retrieved the package to the floor and then proceed to "repair".













Note that the vice president of SF Express , LI Dong Qi (李东起), which is also responsible for air operations and a new subsidiary delivery by drone group, attended the trial. He said that the cargo drones will make a proposal more consistent in the fleet of the company, and that other drone capacity exceeding one ton will emerge quickly.

With first base routing and delivery by drone based in Sichuan province, Li plans to set up a distribution network "dronisée" to reach in less than 36 hours all Chinese third-tier cities and ¹ below. For this, the network will be based primarily on three categories of cargo drone - "line" with a capacity of several tons, regional class ton terminal and up to tens of kilo - a bit like the segmentation of air transport.


A drone trying to deliver medicine to a remote village in China

The TB001 drone used in this test was designed by Tengden in thirteen months. It measures 10 meters long, 20 meters wide and can carry up to 1200 kg payloads. The craft which carried out its first flight in September this year can take off and land in standalone mode, "clicking" the statement of the company and reach a speed of 250 km / h and a ceiling of 6000 meters . Its flight autonomy is given to 3 000 km.


Apart from the two MALE drones and TB001 TA001 smaller and two armed hélidrones, Tengden also introduced a cargo drone project with a capacity of 20 tons. Powered by eight reactors and obviously designed with a double fuselage configuration is close Stratolaunch , a carrier aircraft for space launches, but no timetable is clearly communicated to date.


The new cargo UAV project with a capacity of 20 tons of Tengden (Photo: 铁 背心)

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  1. Chengdu Aircraft Industrial Group has begun "batch" delivery of its new Wing Loong II armed MALE drone.



 

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View attachment 21553 Chinese UAS technology is on par with the West now:

AVIC Showcases Full-Service Military UAV Portfolio In Dubai


While the appearance of a mock-up of the Cloud Shadow UAV on the outdoor static display has grabbed a lot of attention at the Dubai Airshow, just as fascinating is a PowerPoint presentation that has been playing on AVIC's stand. In it, the Chinese manufacturer is presenting an end-to-end unmanned aircraft capability set, encompassing a range of airframes and payloads with complementary capabilities and a ground-control station (GCS).

These are all integrated into a holistic concept of operations that will look very familiar to anyone who has seen a presentation by western militaries on layered ISTAR (intelligence, surveillance, target acquisition, and reconnaissance) capabilities. The company calls this the AVIC Total UAS Solution: all parts of it are made in China and are available for export.

At the tactical end of the Solution are two small RPAS, the A-Hawk I and A-Hawk II. Models of both are on display at the stand.

The A-Hawk I is an octocopter with a claimed 65kg payload that can be used for package delivery and surveillance. It has a 30min flight time and a ceiling of 3,000m. The larger A-Hawk II has four belt-driven ducted rotors with a claimed endurance of up to four hours, with flight possible up to 5,000m and a payload limit of 120kg. The system has its own, company-developed, flight control software and GCS.

AVIC is positioning the A-Hawk II as a weapons platform. The model is fitted with two small missiles and a product card lists "Anti-terrorism: attacking terrorists and their bases" and "Military attacking" as its primary missions, with firefighting and cargo transportation roles also touted.

The next layer of ISTAR is provided by the Wing Loong family of aircraft, which perform a function similar to the General Atomics Predator and Reaper.

The long-established Wing Loong I, which has been sold to countries including the UAE and Saudi Arabia, can carry two laser-guided missiles as well as a range of ISTAR payloads (AVIC literature includes mention of an AIS - Automatic Identification System - payload, as well as ELINT, COMINT and radar jammer options). The presentation gives a first-flight date for the Wing Loong I of October 30, 2007 - the date had previously been reported as two years later.

The larger Wing Loong II, which first flew on February 27th this year, is shown carrying 12 weapons on six hardpoints. These include the 50kg BA-7 guided missile and LS-6 precision-guided glide bomb. Videos showed apparently successful engagement of ground targets.

The platform carries a SAR/GMTI (synthetic aperture radar/ground moving target indicator) radar. According to the presentation, the platform's EO sensor is slaved by the SAR, which would enable the system to automatically assist an operator to positively identify a target.

At the higher altitude part of the Total UAS Solution portfolio sits the Cloud Shadow family of aircraft. AVIC says the type first flew on May 16, 2016, but does not specify which variant. There are three configurations of the platform currently promoted: imagery reconnaissance (designated CS-1), electronic reconnaissance (CS-2), and reconnaissance-strike (CS-3). Each is based on the WP-11C turbojet engine.

The first two have an internal 200kg payload capacity while the CS-3 boasts an external payload of double that, spread across four pylons. According to the presentation, a full load-out would consist of a single FT-7A - perhaps a variant of the FT-7 100kg range-extended, precision-guided bomb - and a pair of LS-6/50s, the 50kg version of the LS-6 bomb which Australian defense think-tank Air Power Australia described, in a 2009 report, as analogous to the U.S.'s small diameter bomb.

The CS-2 features a pair of ELINT and COMINT panel sensors in a fairing below the nose. AVIC claims a frequency range of 0.8-18GHz at up to 400km for the former and 0.1-2GHz at up to 200km for the latter. The CS-1 carries SAR and LOROP (long range oblique photographic) sensors. An operational concept image in the presentation shows the aircraft flying 12-18 km inside the boundary with hostile airspace, and with effective ranges for the LOROP of 68 km beyond the line, and 70km for the SAR.

The booth also features a full-size demonstrator version of AVIC's GCS. This can be provided in fixed, vehicle-mounted or portable configurations, and features six user-defined touchscreen displays, a QWERTY keyboard with separate numerical keypad, and two joysticks. This can be used to control both the Wing Loong and Cloud Shadow aircraft.

The company also provides datalinks. These include a C/UHF-band line-of-sight link, Ku-, Ka- and S-band satellite links, an L-band miniature link for the A-Hawks, and all associated ground terminals.

http://m.aviationweek.com/dubai-air-show-2017
IDK how they can possibly tell whether its a CH5 or Wing Loong II from this satellite picture, but Jane's is reporting that the UAE is the first export customer for the Wing Loong II MALE UCAV.

http://www.janes.com/article/77379/uae-revealed-as-wing-loong-ii-launch-customer

Air Platforms
UAE revealed as Wing Loong II launch customer
Christopher Biggers, Washington, DC - Jane's Defence Weekly
26 January 2018

Key Points
  • Satellite imagery indicates the UAE is the unnamed Wing Loong II customer
  • Three UAVs matching Wing Loong II dimensions were at Qusahwirah Air Base in October 2017
The United Arab Emirates (UAE) air force has almost certainly acquired the AVIC Wing Loong II medium-altitude, long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). Satellite imagery shows three UAVs matching the Wing Loong II’s dimensions at the UAE’s remote Qusahwirah Air Base near the border with Oman and Saudi Arabia on 22 October 2017.

The three UAVs seen at Qusahwirah on 22 October 2017 were almost certainly Wing Loong IIs. (© 2018 DigitalGlobe, Inc)

According to AVIC, the strike-capable Wing Loong II has a length of 11 m and a wingspan of 20.5 m. The dimensions and capabilities of the platform compare closely with the US-built MQ-9 Reaper. The UAE does not possess the MQ-9, nor does Jane’s have knowledge of foreign MQ-9s operating from Qusahwirah, suggesting the UAVs visible in the imagery are Wing Loong IIs.

China’s Xinhua news agency reported on 28 February 2017 that AVIC had secured a major export order for the Wing Loong II from an unidentified country even before the aircraft had taken its first flight, which happened a day earlier.

The report gave no indication when the customer would receive its first UAVs, but AVIC announced earlier in January that intensive testing during the previous 10 months had shown that the system “has met user requirements and possesses full operational capability”. This involved simultaneously controlling two aircraft from the same ground station.

Never publicly acknowledged by the UAE, Qusahwirah Air Base has been a mystery since Google Earth released the first satellite imagery of the expanded facility.
 

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IDK how they can possibly tell whether its a CH5 or Wing Loong II from this satellite picture, but Jane's is reporting that the UAE is the first export customer for the Wing Loong II MALE UCAV.

http://www.janes.com/article/77379/uae-revealed-as-wing-loong-ii-launch-customer

Air Platforms
UAE revealed as Wing Loong II launch customer
Christopher Biggers, Washington, DC - Jane's Defence Weekly
26 January 2018

Key Points
  • Satellite imagery indicates the UAE is the unnamed Wing Loong II customer
  • Three UAVs matching Wing Loong II dimensions were at Qusahwirah Air Base in October 2017
The United Arab Emirates (UAE) air force has almost certainly acquired the AVIC Wing Loong II medium-altitude, long-endurance unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV). Satellite imagery shows three UAVs matching the Wing Loong II’s dimensions at the UAE’s remote Qusahwirah Air Base near the border with Oman and Saudi Arabia on 22 October 2017.

The three UAVs seen at Qusahwirah on 22 October 2017 were almost certainly Wing Loong IIs. (© 2018 DigitalGlobe, Inc)

According to AVIC, the strike-capable Wing Loong II has a length of 11 m and a wingspan of 20.5 m. The dimensions and capabilities of the platform compare closely with the US-built MQ-9 Reaper. The UAE does not possess the MQ-9, nor does Jane’s have knowledge of foreign MQ-9s operating from Qusahwirah, suggesting the UAVs visible in the imagery are Wing Loong IIs.

China’s Xinhua news agency reported on 28 February 2017 that AVIC had secured a major export order for the Wing Loong II from an unidentified country even before the aircraft had taken its first flight, which happened a day earlier.

The report gave no indication when the customer would receive its first UAVs, but AVIC announced earlier in January that intensive testing during the previous 10 months had shown that the system “has met user requirements and possesses full operational capability”. This involved simultaneously controlling two aircraft from the same ground station.

Never publicly acknowledged by the UAE, Qusahwirah Air Base has been a mystery since Google Earth released the first satellite imagery of the expanded facility.
Whatever that was they aren't there now and it looks like the aviation facilities have been removed.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/google+earth/@22.7717057,55.0544528,377m/data=!3m1!1e3
 

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Yes mate. Janes' satellite picture was from October 2017. UCAVs aren't "permanent infrastructure" you know... I didn't expect them to be in the same place still.
It looks like UAE was testing them out but never placed an order. If they did it would be public knowledge by now.
 

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Off-topic so forgive me, but WTF are those hangars? Even if they are HAS, should they not be dispersed a little more (ok a lot more)?
Tell me if I am wrong, but it looks like poor design to me, no offense to the UAE Air Force.
 

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Off-topic so forgive me, but WTF are those hangars? Even if they are HAS, should they not be dispersed a little more (ok a lot more)?
Tell me if I am wrong, but it looks like poor design to me, no offense to the UAE Air Force.
IDK mate... Wouldn't want to speculate without any concrete info. I'm not even sure if those are permanent structures or temporary hanger structures. Hard to tell from a satelite pic.
 

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What are you basing that on? The UAE has been operating the Wing Loong I for 5+ years and has never made any public announcements about it.

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...ibya-hosts-attack-aircraft-and-chinese-drones

But I'm sure your analysis/opinion is more informed than the military experts at Janes'...
Jane's hasn't had a "military expert" since the 2000s when they had a decent circulation. Now they are just another rag using Google Earth as a source to publish undocumented trash. If the UAE had placed an order for Chinese drones, we would know about it just like we know that Iraq did. They probably belong to Iraq and are getting transferred around the Arab coalition considering it was Arab money that bought them.
 

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