Chinese General admits 25-30 years behind West

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it is good thing for china to admit the truth at-least now they can improve their technologies and now paki also need learn that the military hardware they brought from Chinese is not on pair with what India has.

even chinese peoples need to learn that what ever false propaganda put by there government is a big fat lie like j10 can beat rafale and j20 is mare advanced
then f22, i'am only giving you this advice because today i'am in good mood.:wave:
 

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it is good thing for china to admit the truth at-least now they can improve their technologies and now paki also need learn that the military hardware they brought from Chinese is not on pair with what India has.

even chinese peoples need to learn that what ever false propaganda put by there government is a big fat lie like j10 can beat rafale and j20 is mare advanced
then f22, i'am only giving you this advice because today i'am in good mood.:wave:
If China is 20 or 30 years behind then Pakistan JF-17 Radar has Dish TV antenna to pick up Indian movies on Sony PIX while they approach the border, watch it for 3hours and return home for lamp sortie.
 

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PAFs latest Radar has been spotted. Its a 1000channel AISA(All Indian Services Available) radar. Kammal ka cheese.




Secret pork radar, ya dalla life jinga lalla..


What Pakistan JF-17 pilot is scanning.

Freedom..! :D
 
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If China is 20 or 30 years behind then Pakistan JF-17 Radar has Dish TV antenna to pick up Indian movies on Sony PIX while they approach the border, watch it for 3hours and return home for lamp sortie.
o my god i always wondered why did chinese made jf 17 thanks to you now i know.:rofl::rofl:
 

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Do you know what is the upgrade on the Mirage-2000 and why is it so expensive without the Re-engine. 3billion USD?
Considering Snecma is a partner in the upgrade, it must include a new engine. The upgrade costs $1.8 billion for 57 aircraft. That comes out to $31 million per. It is so expensive because India demands offsets and ToT. The MLU for our M2000D costs half that, although it is not as comprehensive.
 

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Considering Snecma is a partner in the upgrade, it must include a new engine. The upgrade costs $1.8 billion for 57 aircraft. That comes out to $31 million per. It is so expensive because India demands offsets and ToT. The MLU for our M2000D costs half that, although it is not as comprehensive.
Now that India is getting the Rafael ToT as well then what good is the Mirage-2000 ToT?

Does this also include the AoA missiles?
 

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China has long way to go before matching US. But france is just a lapdog of US. Without US france would have first surrendered to britain, then to germany, then to the soviets. french are nothing, In the US there are millions of jokes floating around about france, they view the french in much the same way chinese view the vietnamese or (presumably indians view the bangladeshis), in other words in utter contempt. Yet, here this fake french guy (does he even have a french pass?) is tying to talk smak. No one is giving a damn about what the bulls*hit he spews out.

China tested her hydrogen bomb in 1967, France only in 1969.

China has sent humans into space, France has not.

China has built computer that once was the fastest in the world, the french probaby don't even know how to build one that 1/10th as fast.

There are 8 million muslims in france and their ranks double every 20 years. It won't be long before France is turned into another mullah heaven. Then, Armand would have no choice but to either seek another host country or convert to Islam.
 

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it is good thing for china to admit the truth at-least now they can improve their technologies and now paki also need learn that the military hardware they brought from Chinese is not on pair with what India has.

even chinese peoples need to learn that what ever false propaganda put by there government is a big fat lie like j10 can beat rafale and j20 is mare advanced
then f22, i'am only giving you this advice because today i'am in good mood.:wave:
Please provide me one single CCP propaganda source saying: J20 is better than F22. I hope it is not pulled out from your own mouth.
 

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There is no doubt that China is behind USA for at least 25 yrs. However, considering the History of much hated cultural revolution started by Mao, it makes sense. However, France is not even 20 yrs ahead of China. It can not even make proper ICBM.
 

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Everything Chinese generals said to France was true. They are late Soviet clones 25-30 years behind not up to French levels. They want us to sell them our high technology, but only if they observe human rights.
you left out their "WE PIRATE EVERYTHING THERE IS TO PIRATE" part my friend.
 

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But we are getting some western tech a lot of JVs and exchanges that is why we keep saying our AF will be better in terms of quality than your quantity.
BullSxxxt, you guys even don't know what's quality. a few weapon called quality? you are waaay better "quality" than China 196xx . why you guys lost.
Chinese most quanlity is Maoist, all you guys need to saved by Maoist and Communism.
 

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this is modesty shown by the general so that france lifts the arms embargo and they could import and reverse engineer the french military equipment as they have run a dead end after russia is refusing to part with critical military technology.speaking of technology the deep seated etho of pla is in number and not in quality similar to soviet union.but the difference is that soviets had the r&d to produce top end military stuff which were rugged enough and could be actually used in a real war the chinese are still struggling to do so.if soviet union had not broken up they would have by now inducted pak-fa which would not only be at par or better than f-22 but also less maintainence intensive
 

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Their best radar are Zhuks bought from Russia... sooo. Even the J-11 has Zhuk in it. Now, regarding the level of Chinese radars... remember how fast Pakistan ran to France for a new fire control system? Chicoms are wholly obsolete. The veil has been lifted and everything I have been saying is confirmed by Chicom generals.
But access to Phazatron's or NIIP's technology shouldn't have been hard for the Chinese in the 90s. The KLJ-10 has specifications quite similar to the Zhuk ME and sources say the basic design of the KLJ-10 simply follows the Zukh ME.

KLJ-10


Official PAF reports talk about how the KLJ-7 achieved the capability of the APG-66 only recently, maybe the APG-68. The Zhuk ME going on our Mig-29UPG is equivalent to the KLJ-10. If the current best airborne fighter radar in China is the KLJ-10 then we have nothing to fear about as of today.

The KLJs on their flanker models seems to be temporary until they get their AESA on them. MLUs.

25 to 30 years my A$$.

They are probably 15 to 20 years behind in most technologies. In a few a stuff I believe they are already on par with Russia.
The general used it only as a figure of speech. No need to be specific.
 

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you left out their "WE PIRATE EVERYTHING THERE IS TO PIRATE" part my friend.
Many of the components they supposedly pirate are actually licensed production. The Fregat and Zhuk radar clones are actually Russian.
 

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BullSxxxt, you guys even don't know what's quality. a few weapon called quality? you are waaay better "quality" than China 196xx . why you guys lost.
Chinese most quanlity is Maoist, all you guys need to saved by Maoist and Communism.
Dont pretend to be a chinese.
 

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China maybe behind, but is catching up fast!
 

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To say China is 25-30 years behind the US is probably an overestimate of China's present military technologies. if we roll back the clock, in 1980 US had over 1000 ICBMs with multi-entry warheads in her arsenal, she had a huge airforce made up of F14,F15 and the newly introduced F-16, her navy had around 15 carriers including nuclear-powered ones along side perhaps 300 cruisers, destroyers and frigates. It was 10 year earlier when US first humans onto the moon, and it was even earlier when US started to fly SR-71, world's first stealth aircraft. But then, everyone else including France is far behind the US. Without access to US technoliges, directly or indirectly, there would be no Rafale, no Charles de Galle class carrier, not even airbus. France, and all other european countries are doing OK, precisely because of their associations with the US. But in terms of cutt-edge technoliges every country on earth, including Japan and Germany, is at least 15-20 years behind the US. Right now, China is still behind Japan, or maybe some european countries, but no country is in better position to catch up with the US economically and technologically than China is now. Western europe is about done: half centry of socialism has turned europe into a sick man, the people are lazy and unmotivated, and islam is eating europe alive from inside, France of course is prime cut here. You have rafale, you have nuk, all this no use against the tidal waves of islamization. One day all France's fancy tools will end up in the hands of Jihadis.
 

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