Chinese Dissident Wins Nobel Peace Prize

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this is just a joke:

an ape who pi$$s at CCP would have more chance to win Nobel prize than a sicentist who praises CCP.
You are Right . Ape should get award for his Intelligence. He was intelligence enough to know the place where he should be pi$$ing.

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Its clear that nobel peace prize also has agenda. Why care for this biased prize? Someday, they may decide to give this peace prize to our very own Arundhati Roy as well... :angry_1:
Yes Johnee, simply noble prizes for peace became non-sense, vevastha ketta thanama pochi


Last year Obama and this year this fellow. Nobel prize is used as a tool for geo-politics by the western world now. RIP Alfred Nobel
 

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well, CHina should deploy less 50K PLA in Tibet, because CHina can use better infrastructure to deploy quickly enough PLA in necessary time. So China needn't deploy too many PLA there at all .
I know this is totally OT, but you need to answer this

PLA has total of more than 2.2Million soldiers and 50K alone in tibet means what happen to others, as per your calculation atleast 500K personnels should be in Benj(ch) :D?
 

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Dear lord... You people are so poisoned with hatred towards the Chinese to an extent where you will praise absolutely everything that undermines it's reputation...
Human rights in China are obviously pretty undeveloped but the Nobel peace prize is just an unmeasurable load of s***. I can't believe people here are just so biased!
Nobel peace prize has absolutely nothing to do with peace or anything broadly attached to it. It has just about everything to do with politics, and the present one is just part of the warming up anti-Chinese agenda in the West, which will only get ever more agressive.
 

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Chinese responses at Nobelprize.org are mostly positive, though this neutral comment is very fascinating:



Translating to

With the freedom to exchange for security, will ultimately lose these two together! Liu congratulated the 2010 Nobel Peace Prize! ! !
Why this misconception in China that freedom has anything to do with security?
 

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this is just a joke:

an ape who pi$$s at CCP would have more chance to win Nobel prize than a sicentist who praises CCP.
Well, the ape is doing something worthwhile (like trying to break down a rat cave) by flooding it with his piss, while the scientist isn't doing much, maybe finding ways to reverse engineer foreign technology.
 

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China blanks Nobel Peace prize searches


Beijing, China (CNN) -- With news media across the globe reacting to this year's Nobel Peace Prize announcement, authorities in the winner's homeland are racing to delete his name from all public domains.Type "Liu Xiaobo" -- or "Nobel Peace Prize," for that matter -- in search engines in China and hit return, you get a blaring error page.It's the same for the country's increasingly popular micro-blogging sites. "Nobel Prize" was the top-trending topic until the authorities acted to remove all mentions of the award.Propaganda officials have also pulled the plug on international broadcasters -- including CNN -- whenever stories about Liu air.


Text-messaging on mobile phones is not immune from censors, either. A Shanghai-based netizen, @littley, tweeted his unfortunate experience: "My SIM card just got de-activated, turning my iPhone to an iPod touch after I texted my dad about Liu Xiaobo winning the Nobel Peace Prize."For most ordinary Chinese, the only glimpse of the story came when an anchor read a short statement from the foreign ministry on state TV, blasting the Norwegian Nobel committee's choice of an imprisoned Chinese dissident for the prize "a blasphemy."








Chinese news consumers are no strangers to such blackouts.The Chinese government, in its effort to control the flow of information, has long blocked some of the world's top social networking sites - including Facebook, Youtube and most overseas-based blogging services.Disagreements over Internet censorship led to a war of words between Beijing and Google early this year, leading the search engine giant to redirect its Chinese services to Hong Kong.Frustrated netizens have dubbed the state's extensive Internet filtering system the "Great Firewall of China," which is said to employ the world's biggest cyber police force to monitor the world's biggest online population of more than 400 million people.An increasing number of mostly young, tech-savvy users, however, have learned to rely on proxy servers to circumvent the censors and log on to banned sites like Twitter, where the mood was ecstatic Friday night.
"We finally have our own Mandela and Aung San Suu Kyi," exclaimed @xieyi64.
"How come I feel today is the real National Day?" tweeted @joeliang, referring to the just-ended week-long holiday marking the 61st anniversary of the People's Republic.


Echoing their sentiment, many Twitterers -- based in China according to their profiles -- admitted they have cried in joy upon hearing the news.Others expressed admiration for the Norwegian Nobel committee for its decision despite Beijing's stern public warning against it."Thanks for giving China a glimmer of hope," tweeted @Frankus21, while many more said they paid their tribute to the Scandinavian nation by eating a celebratory dinner featuring salmon, arguably Norway's most famous food.

With the news blackout there was also little criticism online of the Nobel award.
But some of the online enthusiasm has even spilled into the real world. A witness told CNN a small group of people gathered at Temple of Earth Park in Beijing to celebrate Liu's winning, only to be quickly dispersed by local police.All the excitement aside, Chinese Internet users don't see their government loosening its grip on the media - old or new - anytime soon. They do hope, however, that their collective voice online will help push for Liu's early release.Liu's wife, speaking to CNN after the announcement, certainly counts on these messengers to spread her husband's story."People who want to find out the news will be able to do so," Liu Xia told CNN under the watchful eyes of police in her apartment, when asked about China's censoring of the story.


China blanks Nobel Peace prize searches - CNN.com
 

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China is mighty pissed with the decision. It has called the norwegian ambassador and also talked about diplomatic repercussions. while I would commend the Nobel committee for giving the Nobel to a chinese dissident I think its entirely possible that it was done with intentions that are possibly not all that genuine. It may be a western ploy to get dissidence in china into the limelight and get any underlying discontent in china out in the open. And this may have nothing to do with Chinese peoples rights but just to create enough trouble in china that suits its interests just fine.

Good. I like it. Suits india just fine as well.
 

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Wife of Chinese dissident 'swept over' by Nobel prize win



"I want to thank the Nobel Committee for bestowing this award on Liu Xiaobo, who remains behind bars," Liu Xia, Xiaobo's wife said. "I want to thank (former Czech President) Vaclav Havel. I want to thank Bishop Desmond Tutu. And I want to thank the Dalai Lama," she said.

BEIJING – Liu Xiaobo, the Chinese writer and human rights campaigner who was sent to jail for 11 years last December, has become the first Chinese citizen to win the Nobel Peace Prize.

The announcement in Oslo stunned the Chinese government – which had threatened the Nobel Committee and Norway if the prize were to be awarded to Liu – and government censors scrambled Friday to block international broadcasts of the news, including the BBC.

Liu, whose activism dates from the days of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, is best known as the lead author of Charter '08, a petition that has called for multi-party democracy in China.

The petition enraged the Communist Party government, which keeps a lock-grip on power, and the document eventually led to his jailing.

But in Beijing Friday Liu's wife, Liu Xia – who had told the Star in an interview this week that she didn't expect her husband to win – was ecstatic and overwhelmed with joy.

"I feel as though I have been swept over by a hundred different emotions," she said.

She said her husband did not yet know that he had won – but she would tell him Saturday morning when she has a scheduled monthly visit with him at Jinzhou Prison, in China's northeast, where he is being held.

"I want to thank the Nobel Committee for bestowing this award on Liu Xiaobo, who remains behind bars," Liu Xia said. "I want to thank (former Czech President) Vaclav Havel. I want to thank Bishop Desmond Tutu. And I want to thank the Dalai Lama," she said.

All three have been strong supporters of Liu and his candidacy. Tutu and the Dalai Lama are also past winners.

Liu Xia said she had not yet had the opportunity to inform Liu's father.

"I haven't been able to get off the phone," she laughed. But she said she knew that his father would be "very proud."

Liu's selection as the Nobel Peace Prize winner leaves the Chinese government in a difficult position.

First, Liu's win will be a very big boost to the small but courageous human rights movement inside the country who will clearly take strength from his victory.

But any open government criticism of the committee's selection of Liu as this year's laureate will only make people more curious about him and spread word of his writings and ideas about democracy for China.

Liu Xia aid she didn't really care how the government will react, but she said she knew it would be good for China as a nation.

"I think this will hasten China's entry into the real civilized world more quickly," she said.

In a statement released Friday afternoon in Beijing, the Foreign Ministry protested against the award, saying it should have gone to promoting international friendship and disarmament.

"Liu Xiaobo is a criminal who has been sentenced by Chinese judicial departments for violating Chinese law," it said. Awarding the peace prize to Liu, it claimed, was a "blasphemy against the peace prize."

It repeated that Liu's award would harm bilateral relations between China and Norway, but it offered no details.
 

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Why Liu Xiaobo Nobel Peace Prize could harm Chinese rights activists

The Chinese government said the award to Liu Xiaobo 'profanes the Nobel Peace Prize.' The immediate future may see more activists arrested, warns Mr. Liu's lawyer.
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Infuriating the Chinese government, the Nobel Committee today awarded this year's Nobel Peace Prize to imprisoned pro-democracy activist Liu Xiaobo.
The committee said it had picked Mr. Liu, the first Chinese recipient, for his "long and non-violent struggle for fundamental human rights in China." He was sentenced to an unusually harsh 11-year jail term last Christmas Day for having authored a petition demanding broad political reform in China.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said the award "profanes the Nobel Peace Prize" in a statement carried on the ministry's website. Liu "was sentenced to jail"¦for violation of Chinese law and I think his acts are in complete contravention to the purpose of the Nobel Peace Prize," Mr. Ma said.

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Liu's wife, Liu Xia, told the Monitor that she hopes the award "will be an opportunity to help China become a mainstream civilized society." She hoped too, she adds, that it would lead to the early release of her husband, to whom police were taking her Friday evening for a prison visit.

Chinese websites carried no news of the award other than a brief report from the state-run Xinhua news agency quoting Mr. Ma's statement. References to Liu's award were being deleted from Internet chatrooms, and mobile phone operators blocked all text messages containing the three Chinese characters forming Liu's name.

Chinese activists emboldened

Human rights activists in Beijing heard and welcomed the news, however. "I am so very glad because we are not alone any more," says Cui Weiping, a democracy advocate who teaches at the China Film Academy. "Our actions are approved and supported by the whole world."

"In the long run"¦this will encourage Chinese human rights activists to strive for democracy and freedom," agrees Teng Biao, Liu's lawyer.

In the immediate future, however, he fears that "the government's control over human rights issues will be even stronger. More activists may be arrested."

Rebuke to Chinese authorities

The Nobel Committee made it plain that it intended the award as a rebuke to the Chinese authorities, which it accused of breaching the Chinese Constitution's own safeguards of human rights such as the freedoms of speech, assembly, and of the press.

"In practice these freedoms have proved to be distinctly curtailed for China's citizens," the committee's statement said.
Liu, a scholarly literary critic and political essayist, co-authored "Charter 08" – an appeal launched on the Internet and subsequently signed by thousands of Chinese citizens – demanding an end to the ruling Communist party's monopoly on power, free speech, and religious freedom, among other reforms.He was arrested just before the Charter was published in December 2008, and a year later was sentenced to one of the most severe sentences in recent memory for the crime of "incitement to subversion of state power."

"Liu was sentenced to eleven years in prison for expressing his views" said Nobel Committee chairman Thorbjorn Jagland, explaining the award. "It was unavoidable for the committee to award him this year."

Record of pro-democracy activism

Liu has been active in the Chinese pro-democracy movement for more than two decades. He took part in the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, drawing attention to himself by negotiating the withdrawal of most of the students from the square before the Army moved in, thus averting more bloodshed.

He spent 18 months in jail for his role at Tiananmen, and was later banned from teaching. In 1995 he was sentenced to three years of "re-education through labor" for writing essays critical of the government.

This work, and the long jail sentence he is currently serving, made Liu "the foremost symbol of this wide ranging struggle for human rights in China," the Nobel committee statement said.

China embarrassed

While the Chinese government put on a angry face following the announcement, Beijing will likely also be embarrassed at Friday's award.

"This award will no doubt infuriate the Chinese government by putting its human rights record squarely back into the international debate," says Sophie Richardson, Asia advocacy director at Human Rights Watch. "But this Nobel Prize honors not only Liu's unflinching advocacy; it honors all those in China who struggle daily to make the government more accountable."

Mr. Jagland said that while China's new economic power might make some cautious about criticizing it, "we are giving the message now that it is absolutely necessary to keep an eye on what is going on inside China. If you are not doing that you are betraying human rights defenders in China and"¦you are lowering the standards we have set up in the international community."
 

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China is mighty pissed with the decision. It has called the norwegian ambassador and also talked about diplomatic repercussions. while I would commend the Nobel committee for giving the Nobel to a chinese dissident I think its entirely possible that it was done with intentions that are possibly not all that genuine. It may be a western ploy to get dissidence in china into the limelight and get any underlying discontent in china out in the open. And this may have nothing to do with Chinese peoples rights but just to create enough trouble in china that suits its interests just fine.

Good. I like it. Suits india just fine as well.
Actually iam mighty pissed with how they awarded the prize.The reasons for giving are more political than genuine intentions.Just imagine if they give arse-hole geelani and idiot Umar Farooq the nobel prizeThis is a bad precedent Yusuf which can even be used in equal measure against us..

I think i can explain the nobel prize in the context of this excellent article posted by ajtr

China to Enter Three Year Decline as Problems Mount


Op-Ed Commentary: Chris Devonshire-Ellis

Oct. 4 – In the job I have, I am fortunate enough to be able to compare over 20 years' experience of actually living in China with the past five years of travel across emerging Asia – India especially – and, in that time I have witnessed firsthand the development of China's relationship with the United States and Europe. It gives me, I like to think, a unique perspective on how China is doing. When my business began in Shenzhen for example, Deng Xiaoping was still the leader of China. As Jiang Zemin and Zhou Rongji spearheaded China into global trade with the ultimate objective of WTO membership, they were replaced with Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao who delivered the Olympics yet have had to deal with the aftermath of their predecessors occasionally cavalier efforts to make China a global player.

Perspectives on China always need a base to judge them from, and I have four – a first hand knowledge of China's growth over the past two decades, the ability to compare China with another massive emerging economy in India, frequent travel to the United States and the intellectual and international trade capabilities that provides, plus I have to run, manage and develop a business in the country as a foreign investor. While pro-China (after all I run a successful business with 10 offices there), it is also in my interest to try and work out what is happening, as much for my own businesses benefit quite aside from the consultancy aspect I am paid for. If I judge China incorrectly, my own business suffers. That's a little more motivating to get it right than the average China commentator paid to produce just words.

I do believe that in comparison with previous occasions, China is going to enter into a period of some uncertainty over the next three years and that the process of doing so has already begun. There are a number of reasons for this, but all are to do with failings of government. Propping up the uncertainty is the issue surrounding the current party leadership. With two years to go prior to the curtain being drawn on Hu and Wen's leadership, the Communist Party has to find successors. With a hard core of about 300 decision makers at the National People's Congress, and even that concentrated further within the Communist Party Politburo, jostling for power is now taking place in bids to secure the most coveted positions. While Western-style democracy puts the decision making power in the hands of the people to decide and political campaigning begins a few months before election-day, in China the process of power broking lasts considerably longer. In terms of political decision making and forming a government, it's actually a far less efficient system. It is also having the effect of stymieing China's development as we speak.

While politicians wrangle and jostle for position, much of the actual power then rests with the military in securing China's borders while the politicos wrangle over individual favorable positioning. This, I suspect, is behind the unseemly and quite heavy handed approach China is currently taking with its border disputes. The recent Japanese issue was blown up rather more than it should have been, and China demonstrated a somewhat unsavory approach to what should be a diplomatic issue by allowing it to enter commerce and cultural exchanges. That's a pretty hard line, but then again which general would want to be the fall guy for conceding an inch of disputed territory while the party is occupied debating its future leadership. No one would, and until we have a new Chinese leadership in place, I expect the hard-line attitude over border disputes to continue.

I also expect the same for the RMB position. There are arguments for both sides, that the Chinese are playing it right, and that the Americans are also correct in labeling China a currency manipulator. The latter is probably true, but does that mean China will shift its position? It hasn't so far, aside from a few, tiny moves when Washington starts to get overheated. So what will happen? America can't afford a trade war, and China won't budge. Expect more of the same for the foreseeable future.

Another aspect of China now is the desire to involve politics in trade. That's a worrying development, and is again caused by hard line factions within the government. No quarter is being given while leadership issues have to be resolved. It's also a form of bullying; China poking sticks at nations that don't follow its diplomatic desires. Want to meet with the Dalai Lama? Trade meetings get canceled. Want to send patrol ships to monitor disputed islands? We'll cancel shipments of supplies to you. Want to award a Nobel Peace Prize to someone we don't like? We'll threaten diplomatic sanctions. All this is happening now, and it doesn't bode well for the next three years until a new leadership can assert itself and restore a more diplomatic approach.

There's also the issue over the economy. I'm not an expert, but I do know how to read a balance sheet and I've been in China a long time. I can't quote the numbers, and even if I did someone else would come up with an opposite theory. All I can say is that is just doesn't feel right. Traveling around China I have come across acres and acres of empty, prestigious property developments. I've seen entire cities built for a population of millions but with actual residence of 100,000. "Build and they'll come" seems to be the mantra. But they won't. China's population is actually shrinking, and unlike India, another 100 million people are not coming into the labor pool. China needs more people to sustain its previous growth, but they aren't being born.

China's new found urban wealth also has largely been built on credit. The enormous numbers of cars that have come onto China's roads the past 18 months has largely been the result of virtually interest free loans. Add to that the money that appears to have filtered away into unsustainable property projects and the entire picture seems wrong. Build a property for US$10 million, the speculators move in and prices rise, and the government can report a profit on the original project. Yet it's useless without people actually living in them. When that bubble is pricked, China's bad debt in its government and banking sectors is going to really hurt, along with the ordinary folk who bought into the dream.

That won't necessarily affect foreign direct investment, but it will affect the mood of the nation. China's new leaders need to fix it, and that is why so much attention is being paid to the next generation. Yet with two years to go before that is decided, the forthcoming period is going to be very uncertain, and along with that, strict adherence to rules, regulations over business and civil rights along with more stressed diplomatic and trade relations will occur.

The economy also has to be recalibrated away from export manufacturing and more towards boosting its own consumption. That's a process that is currently underway, but it has proven patchy, and some of those empty property developments would have been far better money spent on developing infrastructure in China's central and western regions, and Sichuan in particular. That is China's most populous region (if you include Sichuan Province and the neighboring municipality of Chongqing), and the dynamics it has, if unleashed, could rejuvenate the region and its surrounding provinces. Yet it remains under-invested, with a lack of infrastructure, a distinct lack of interconnectivity with its neighbors, and totally inappropriate projects being put in their place. Local annual income is about US$4,000 per annum yet there are US$1 million apartments for sale on the road close to Chongqing to "the elites." What elites? I get increasingly concerned when I see, on a regular basis, such promotion of prime real estate across the country. As I said, acres of such developments have been built. Over-inflated, over built and totally out of reach of the ordinary Chinese citizen. Its not real development, and the prices asked and profits shown are unattainable and false.

As wages have also increased, and costs across the country have risen, China's path the next few years is going to be difficult. The bad debt I suspect is throughout the system will have to be dealt with at some point, although a lid will probably be kept on it until the next leadership can formulate a policy to deal with it. If the hammer does fall, and China enters into recession and housing goes into negative equity, the repercussions for the party are extremely serious. That is also being reflected in a harder line in policing and security issues. China is indeed becoming rather less friendly than it was. some sections of Chinese media are already placing blame on foreigners for China's economic problems. They vary from the U.S. government for creating the global credit crunch, to foreign investors not paying workers enough, to accusations of rampant profiteering from low cost China production. It's an old political sleight of hand, when the economy starts sliding, blame someone else. In a one-party state, the someone else is the foreign investor, their government, and the overly capitalistic ways. "Give us more money" cry the Chinese. "We're being exploited." Expect such rhetoric to increase
. Managing a Chinese workforce is going to become more demanding.

Five years ago, when I started our India practice, there were many reasons for doing so, not least because the country was a similar size and I felt it was also opening up just as China had done in the 1980s, the signs and signals looked the same to me in India then as they did in China in 1987. However, another reason that I didn't mention so much was also a pillar catalyst behind the decision to open in India, and that was to hedge against China if things turned for the worse. If profit levels begin to slip (fortunately that hasn't happened to us in China at this point), then I'll need to make those up from elsewhere. Increasingly, establishing a business to contribute profit levels in India looks like a shrewd decision. As China slows, India is growing, and providing an increasing amount of sales revenue into our own bottom line, becoming more important as time goes on. That may yet become vital as an additional income stream if China's economy deteriorates. Hedging against China I would suggest, would be a wise strategy to consider.

Meanwhile, for the next three years in China, until the new government hierarchy is determined, expect a bumpy ride, a slowdown, and a decline in domestic business confidence. Foreign investors should be OK as China's domestic market opens up, but be cautious over expansion plans. Buyers from China are likely to face an increase in quality problems, and an upsurge in China derived bad debt, so take steps to enforce contracts properly and ensure letters of credit are in place and drawn down only when the goods are clarified as appropriate. Meanwhile, occasional ultra nationalist fervor, a very strict adherence to rules and some erratic diplomacy is likely to become the norm until China's next generation can take the helm and steer the ship back into calmer waters. It will take at least three years.

Chris Devonshire-Ellis is the principal and founding partner of Dezan Shira & Associates, establishing the firm's China practice in 1992 and its India practice in 2006. The firm now has 10 offices in China, five in India, and two in Vietnam. For advice over China, India and Vietnam comparisons, strategy, investment, legal and tax matters please contact the firm at [email protected]. The firm's brochure may be downloaded here.
In that part he succintly explains what exactly drives CCP actions just the desire to stay in power and until the various CCP factions decide among themselves who will become the president and prime minister and with their current set of woes the Chinese will aggressive be pissing neighbours and taking a hardline stance so that they can divert their citizens attentions from more pressing domestic matters.This shows two observations

a)The CCP sole purpose is to stay in power

b)During times of domestic problems the undertake hardline stances in foreign policy

Now the nobel prize to this guy focus on something which the CCP wants to avoid the most....Attention to a lot of domestic issues
 

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China is mighty pissed with the decision. It has called the norwegian ambassador and also talked about diplomatic repercussions. while I would commend the Nobel committee for giving the Nobel to a chinese dissident I think its entirely possible that it was done with intentions that are possibly not all that genuine. It may be a western ploy to get dissidence in china into the limelight and get any underlying discontent in china out in the open. And this may have nothing to do with Chinese peoples rights but just to create enough trouble in china that suits its interests just fine.

Good. I like it. Suits india just fine as well.
These rightists or whatever are considered useful idiots, perhaps some of them are paid too. Yes, this instance it suits us. But the same can be used against us.

We need to differentiate some aspects:

1) Nobel peace prize is bogus, it is agenda driven. It is bestowed by a country to those whom it seeks to encourage. It can be used to encourage dissidents of other countries(including India).

2) There are no human rights or civil rights in CCP ruled China.

3) If that person was sincerely fighting for the rights of the people, then he deserves applause and encouragement.

We should keep all the 3 points in our mind. At best, its fun to watch how fragile CCP is when it gets all huffed up and puffed up at some western award, even after feeding its people propaganda for years.
 

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completely agree with JP and johnee and they have spelled out my exact thoughts. this award is nothing more than a political award just the way obama happened to get the award last time round, it seems every tom, **** and harry tends to get this award each year and now the call comes from obama to release that activist, and may i ask under which authority does the US ask the chinese to do so? its all their internal matter and it is absolutely up to the chinese to deal with it.

today its china, tomorrow if they are pissed off with india which could happen someday in future just as india starts to play a significantly dominant role across the globe and in the process pursue its interests with countries that are not friendly to the US (namely burma, iran and others) things that tend to irritate the US very quickly then the very same people could increase the stakes on kashmir and hand out one such award to some terrorist from kashmir.
 

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^^^TR, Arundirty Roy is the best candidate. She has asked India to give up Kashmir, so that India can progress(read anti-national). She is anti-saffronisation of India(read anti-hindus). She is against exploitation of tribals(read Maoists). She has all the qualifications... :happy_7:
 

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I know this is totally OT, but you need to answer this

PLA has total of more than 2.2Million soldiers and 50K alone in tibet means what happen to others, as per your calculation atleast 500K personnels should be in Benj(ch) :D?
PLA has 7 military regions and Tibet belongs to 1 of the 7 MRs, Chengdu MR .

Chengdu MR includes 5 Provinces . main force of Chengdu MR are deployed outside Tibet,such as SiChuang, CHongqing ,Yunnan and Guizhou.

So pls caculate it by youself....that means only quite limited troops of Chengdu MR can be deployed in Tibet.
 

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Chinese responses at Nobelprize.org are mostly positive, though this neutral comment is very fascinating:



Translating to



Why this misconception in China that freedom has anything to do with security?
guy, you should have surft a more balanced website......

After reading abover comments, I just mistake its as cat88,the cyber base camp of " Chinese extreme rightists"
 

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guy, you should have surft a more balanced website......
That's the Nobel Prize's official website. It's as balanced as it can get. If your idea of "balanced" means a deployment of the 50 cent army, then you'll have to look at Chinese sites that comply to government regulations.

After reading abover comments, I just mistake its as cat88,the cyber base camp of " Chinese extreme rightists"
No, like I said it's the Nobel Prize's official website: The Nobel Peace Prize 2010
 

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How can the mighty CCP be so alarmed by one single man who preaches non-violence ?

Reminds me of Gandhi.

Shame on China !!!!!!!!
 

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everyone please cut this .This particular peace prize has set an extremel bad example and precedence and it is nothing to gloat over
 

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What precedence?!! Nobel peace prize was always like this. It is showered on whoever they wish. They spell out some reasons, we can accept them or reject them. There is nothing like a 'precedence' being set...
 

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