Chinese city hotels asked to turn away people from five Muslim countries

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^^

:rofl::rofl:

the chinese wants the world to read the chinese propaganda news manufactured inside china, the small realm for chinese small minds!
chinese wake up and smell the chinese coffee if cpc permits them to smell coffee instead of the commie ass which is the regular dose.
 

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^^

:rofl::rofl:

the chinese wants the world to read the chinese propaganda news manufactured inside china, the small realm for chinese small minds!
chinese wake up and smell the chinese coffee if cpc permits them to smell coffee instead of the commie ass which is the regular dose.
Chinese can at least smell the coffee, but Pakistanis, they can't smell the coffee since they aren't even allowed to enter the restaurant after the ban. :pound:
 

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news manufactured in chinese for chinese so thaty they feel comfortable in th
Chinese can at least smell the coffee, but Pakistanis, they can't smell the coffee since they aren't even allowed to enter the restaurant after the ban. :pound:
:rofl::rofl:
good one..good one!!!

:D
The chinese news in chinese are manufactured for the chinese so that they dont protest the commie party and carry on with the rat race dreaming of the "glorious leadership".

and them chinese wants the rest of the world to read thier propaganda news crap and be like them!! ::rofl::rofl:
 

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Thanks for adding more (good) information @pmaitra

If I am not wrong Guangzhou is at coastal region of China, close to economic hub Hong Kong. It is far away from Xinjiang (East Turkmenistan) which is close to Pakistan Occupied Kashmir 's northern most border with China.

If they are specifically asking to ban Pakistanis (which hoteliers will ascertain after checking the passport) then they have asked to ban Pakistanis, no if and buts. Or if they have asked to distinguish between ISIS or non-ISIS then one can debate it further.

Going by either logic the ban shows Pakistan in bad light because it is letting her territory used by elements that are causing harm to PRC interest.
Actually, there are two parts in my post.
  • Uighurs have joined ISIS in large numbers - fact.
  • PRC banned Pakistanis and people from certain other countries - fact.
  • PRC banned Pakistanis and people from certain other countries because Uighurs have joined ISIS in large numbers - my speculation.

Said that, Pakistan is seen in bad light not only in PRC, but many other countries. They are seen as potential trouble.
 

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news manufactured in chinese for chinese so thaty they feel comfortable in th

:rofl::rofl:
good one..good one!!!

:D
The chinese news in chinese are manufactured for the chinese so that they dont protest the commie party and carry on with the rat race dreaming of the "glorious leadership".

and them chinese wants the rest of the world to read thier propaganda news crap and be like them!! ::rofl::rofl:
After all the pompous blustering, the 50 cent gangs operating in Indian forums might actually regret it if Indians actually start taking classes to learn Chinese. Their forums will be filled with Indian world view, and break the monopoly which China currently has over the narrative inside China. Same has happened with English language forums, especially Quora, where Indians have de facto colonized the entire platform with our viewpoint plastered all over. Does China want that? sure we will learn Chinese. All we need to do is tell the Indian middle class that there is a 'sure job' at the end of Chinese language class, and all Indians will send their kids to learn Chinese, just like they sent to learn JAVA (now every paan-wallah and his son is a JAVA expert with a B.Tech degree).
 

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In above link Chinese official is answering to a question if tourist are banned. He in return, denying it diplomatically. Which make perfect sense as no nation would claim such bans out in Public.

As per OP no where it says the ban came out officially but an enforcer went to Hotels to ban certain nationalities including Pakistanis. The news has came out from hotel sources which can not be ruled out as not credible.

Reading link I found out, Hangzhou is organizing G20 meet in couple of days. It looks like a security drill asking Hotels in (I assume) all metropolis to take precautions and ban or be alarmed about certain nationalities including Pakistanis ???
 

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LOL...pathetic Indian ...

every couple days they would get to some kind of climax with stupid 'false' news about China ...hey... wake up ,open your eyes and mind to read this world. do not limit yourself in such a small realm and make yourself the laughing stock of this world again and again ...
You clown! This news has been taken from the Paki Dawn news and not an Indian source! So you need to call your Paki terrorist friends, 'pathetic', not us!

Use at least one of the two-and-a-half brain cells that God has bestowed you with...... Or has he?
 

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Unable to verify this on the named five with credible sources.

Most likely the recent tightening of security has to do with the upcoming
The G20 in Hangzhou - How it compares to previous summits
China looks to transform the G20 into a platform for ongoing debate




Also affecting Central Asian Stans --
China denies rift with Kazakhstan over visas

China Wednesday denied foreign media reports it suspended individual visa services for Kazakhstan, saying reports of a diplomatic conflict between the two countries were "unreal and misquoted."

China's Consulate General in Almaty told the Global Times that China didn't suspend all individual visa services, but only suspended visa services for individual tourists.

Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Tuesday that relations between the two countries were strained, and that China had suspended individual visa services for Kazakhstani citizens. RFA also cited Kazakhstani media Kazinform International News Agency as saying that Chinese Ambassador Zhang Hanhui expressed "strong discontent" for Kazakhstan's inconvenient visa policy toward Chinese citizens.
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"But the Kazakhstani people remain concerned about the adjustment because of economic ties and huge personnel exchanges between the two countries, that the demand for Chinese visas is huge," he said.
 

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LOL...pathetic Indian ...

every couple days they would get to some kind of climax with stupid 'false' news about China ...hey... wake up ,open your eyes and mind to read this world. do not limit yourself in such a small realm and make yourself the laughing stock of this world again and again ...

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the FM's daily regular press conference on 26th Aug...

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/web/fyrbt_673021/t1392170.shtml



try your online translation tools plz...but the English version would be available on Monday...maybe some China lover should learn a little bit chinese as I suggested before...
First post is from Dawn dated August 27th, 2016. Dawn is top Pakistani news paper. You need to think and not just read.
 

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Guangzhou is a key air hub, also nearby Hong Kong(maybe just one-hour distance by train, downtown to downtown), although far away from Hangzhou where the G20 summit is to be held. Most intl airlines call Guangzhou as much as Shanghai, Beijing, but not Hangzhou which is known as a tourist attraction.


Hangzhou on Money


Hangzhou known as a "paradise" in Chinese poetry

Also Guangzhou is a metropolis with large foreign communities, like probably 100 thousand Africans. But it's natural security control is in full swing at every entry point, not only Guangzhou.
 

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Lol...as it said, the source is some Hongkong media... but it is too stupid. maybe that tabloid should make up something like 'Guangzhou police forbid the African Black for the hotel registration ' which might be able to catch more eyes and 'fool' more people ...hohohoho...

I know Indian can't understand my joke without basic background knowledge and common sense...but the thing is, as I always said, Indian should try to learn more about this world. limiting you tiny sight on Pakistan and China only won't help to your dream to be a worldwide power...

go worldwide, young Indians...outside your nation and the subcontinent there are too much things you may not be able to understand immediately and then somehow you may accept it later, it is the life.

oops...Guangzhou is the center of South China which is also an International mega city with loads of foreigners . in history, the city should be the earliest large city/ port open to the west and world... you may enjoy it...
 
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Looks like weather has changed in China and Pakistan has old weather....... and great wall of China, become taller then mountain. So Pakistani were left behind without a friend.....:rofl:
pakis repeating the same mistake by sleeping with one country .first they did with ameerika now with china

both will use and throw like third grade raaandi

looks like its not all weather friend but whether friend:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
 

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Actually, there are two parts in my post.
  • Uighurs have joined ISIS in large numbers - fact.
  • PRC banned Pakistanis and people from certain other countries - fact.
  • PRC banned Pakistanis and people from certain other countries because Uighurs have joined ISIS in large numbers - my speculation.

Said that, Pakistan is seen in bad light not only in PRC, but many other countries. They are seen as potential trouble.
The Chinese are smart people and foreign relations does not operate on sentimentality but on cold hard interest & benefit.

From what you are saying the Chinese know that the Pakistanis are troublesome, so in your opinion what is the basis of being "friends" with them?

1. Using them to weaken and bog down India by pumping them with arms so India has a problematic western front to deal with.

2. Access to the Persian gulf and thus bypassing the tortuously long Malacca straits e.g. via Gwadar, CPEC.

Anything else?
 

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Access denied: Hongkongers with Pakistani passports refused solo visas to mainland China, told to apply via group tours

Hong Kong residents holding Pakistani nationality and wanting to go to mainland China are individually being denied visas unless they enter as a group, the Post has learned.

The Consulate General of Pakistan in Hong Kong confirmed with the Post that it had received a considerable number of enquiries from affected individuals over what appeared to be a policy change by Beijing that began about a month ago.

The Pakistan Embassy in the capital reached out to Beijing about the practice, but it had yet to receive a response, the Post also learned.

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-hongkongers-pakistani-passports-refused-solo

China warns people to shun practise of Islam, stick to ‘Marxist Atheism’

China’s top leadership, led by Party General Secretary and President Xi Jinping, has warned the Chinese people, especially those living in the Xinjiang province to shun the practise of Islam and to stick to China’s state policy of “Marxist Atheism”.

General Secretary and President Xi Jinping’s remarks made at the Second National Work Conference on Religion are being widely reported by state media led by China Central TV.

President Jinping’s warning is directed at the Uyghurs, who in recent times, have become very aggressive in their protests against the state. Large parts of the population living in Xinjiang province have become radicalised and the Chinese Government is only now realising the gravity of the situation.

Xinjiang borders Pakistan from where the hardline Islamic teachings flow. China has also been subtly warning Pakistan to stop the flow of Islamic messaging to Xinjiang but to no avail:rofl:. President’s Xi’s speech at the religious Conference was also a veiled message to Pakistan, say observers.

Making China’s State policy of intolerance towards Pan-islamic tendencies very clear, President Xi warned Chinese citizens “not to confuse themselves with non-CCP approved tendencies:rofl::rofl:“ and to “never find their values and beliefs in this religion or any religion.“

Among the other warnings issued by him, was one to resolutely resist overseas infiltration through religious means and to guard against ideological infringement by Islamic extremists.

Other senior Communist Party Officials who spoke on this occasion highlighted the dangers that Islam is assuming in some parts of China, making the nation vulnerable to extremist infiltration.

Communist Party Officials strongly backed President Xi’s statements and cautioned citizens to be vigilant against Islamic tendencies like Halal products. They made it clear that Halal products will remain banned in China as these “promote religious segregation.“

While coming out strongly against Islam and Islamic traditions, the Second National Work Conference on Religion also promoted a number of articles that expressed support for the new policies.

One such article in the official newspaper of the CCP’s Central Commission for Discipline Inspection. It criticised Officials for having forgotten party discipline and engaging in the practise of physiognomy and fortune telling, burning incense and praying. This was followed by a report in the Xinhua on May 9 urging all Chinese Communist Party Cadres at all levels to engage in propaganda, political unity and to guide the masses away from religions, especially those which disrupt the Chinese state.

China has already declared 2016 as the “Year of Ethnic Unity and Progress”, a move aimed squarely at ridding the nation of Islamic influences.

President Xi Jinping is making efforts to tighten control over religious practises, as it is his belief that religion, especially Islam, could emerge as a competing force in society unless it is nipped in the bud now.

China’s Communist Party has declared that the growing influence of radical Islam is a national security issue and the declarations of the Work Conference on Religion have made it clear that Beijing will target all those who assist in the propagation of Islam.

In Xinjiang, there is already considerable resentment over the control being exercised over the practise of Islam, such as the growing of beards, observation of fasts during Ramazan, the wearing of the Hijab, dietary restrictions like consumption of Halal food, prayers five times a day and so forth. These practises are perceived as
“anti-state“ and are the subject of crackdown by the authorities.

President Xi has now made it clear that these policies will be reinforced with renewed vigour, as China is looking at Pakistan-sponsored Islamic radicalism as the number one threat to its society.

http://indianexpress.com/article/wo...se-of-islam-stick-to-marxist-atheism-2819545/
 

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Guangzhou is a key air hub, also nearby Hong Kong(maybe just one-hour distance by train, downtown to downtown), although far away from Hangzhou where the G20 summit is to be held. Most intl airlines call Guangzhou as much as Shanghai, Beijing, but not Hangzhou which is known as a tourist attraction.
Cool pics and the chinese administration move is to keep this place as a tourist attraction than terrorist attraction.
 

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The Chinese are smart people and foreign relations does not operate on sentimentality but on cold hard interest & benefit.

From what you are saying the Chinese know that the Pakistanis are troublesome, so in your opinion what is the basis of being "friends" with them?

1. Using them to weaken and bog down India by pumping them with arms so India has a problematic western front to deal with.

2. Access to the Persian gulf and thus bypassing the tortuously long Malacca straits e.g. via Gwadar, CPEC.

Anything else?
Moreover -

3. Through more development Pakistan is enabled to combat extremism. The committed investment in infra and power are being phased in. By so doing Chinese also find a better use of her huge foreign reserves for a fair return in the long run.

4. Showcasing to other potential Silk Road partners that Chinese are walking the talk. Lately Daw Aung Sang Suu Kyi visited China and confirmed engagement in the Silk Road initiative. Now Chinese are building Kyaukphyu Port after completion of Sino-Burma oil and gas pipelines - also in response to Malacca.

5. Keep Indian hegemony in check. Thanks to China the balance on the subcont. is maintained. Nepal and Sri Lanka get less vulnerable to blackmails, and Bhutan is eager to establish diplomatic ties with China.



Those wrinkles like visas or hostels are just temporary and can be ironed out shortly.



~~Still waters run deep. ~~
 

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Point 5 is more or less the same as point 1, i.e. use Pakistan to balance Indian power.
 

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I hope @sorcerer will be more discreet in citing sources like "Indian Express".

In this long write-up of Indian Express, it mentioned ban on Islam... and ban on Halal foods.... and Ramadan Burqa blah blah - all sensational but hardly grains of salt. It really takes an ounce of brain and a bit common sense to distinguish info from disinfo.

Like Halal food - in order to get labeled as halal foods producers have to be certified by the "Islamic Association", with an hefty amount paid! And ridiculously many large food companies have kowtowed and got certified. The association even goes out to sanction those uncertified companies for putting on halal tags. So it gets kind of abused indeed. Imagine in a country of only 20mil muslims, how come so many Halal stuffs, funnelling money to the "Islamic Association" from kafirs? And even more disturbing such an association is allowed to manipulate diets of non-believers? That's how debates on "halal" came about.



China is not India. India has 180mil muslims. In most cities it barely reaches 1% of population so harmony prevails there.
 

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Point 5 is more or less the same as point 1, i.e. use Pakistan to balance Indian power.
But point 1 only tells what is in it for China.

Point 5 adds into the frame "what's in it for other stakeholders"?

It won't fly unless both sides are benefitted.

~~Still waters run deep. ~~
 

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