China's vulnerability in Malacca Strait

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  1. bose

    bose Senior Member Senior Member

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    Chinese Submarines are the most noisy in the world...
     
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    bose Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indian and Russian relationship are in separable in times to come… Russia has been a trusted friend to India for last 50 years and will continue to be so… I see a closer co operation between the two in Nuclear & Aerospace sector apart from Defense…

    There were issues between the two brothers, we will resolve them with the spirit of accommodations, GOD WILLING!!
     
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    bose Senior Member Senior Member

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    China will not dare to base its submarines in Gwadar or Sri Lanka... or else it will risk giving away its acoustic signatures to India...
     
  4. Ray

    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    Yes.

    You seem to have missed out about the IPI pipeline.

    How many submarines has China got?

    How many will they base in Gwadar and will Ceylon allow the Chinese to base submarines?

    You must understand that Ceylon will not like to upset the US too much.

    The assumption is that Russia and Kazakhistan are vassal state which will jump to Chinese bidding and ramp up their exports to China would be too far fetched.

    The oil has to come through the Straits of Hormuz. Haven't you seen my maps on pipelines, ports and oilfields?

    Here they are once again.

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    With upto 24 P-8I Poseidons and new generation Project-28 ASW corvettes, hell yes!!
     
  6. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    When was the last time you heard of a Chinese Kilo on patrol? They are a none factor since they won't submit to the stipulation of overhauling them in Russia. They have torn two of them apart for reverse engineering.
     
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    Absolutely true!! The Chinese subs that have been picked up on SONAR by the USN and IN are their indigenous nuke subs, and they are said to be easy to detect(read easy to kill).
     
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    Right now Europe is more pissed off at Germany than the UK or France, because of the former hacking a resolution against China on the tariff row.
     
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    i mean the same since his post didn't make any sense to me when he said advance Russian subs
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Their nuke subs are worthless, the noisiest power-plants ever created. Kilo is the quietest sub they have, but they can't operate them because they won't make the overhaul deal with Russia or get their techs trained. It is so many billions wasted, all they really got from it was to tear it apart.
     
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    Navy's newest submarines abandoned the project "Lada"

    In the Main Staff of the Navy "News" reported on Wednesday that the testing program of the "Lada", from which 10 years ago was planned to begin the upgrade of non-nuclear submarine force, had to be cut.

    - In the battle fleet "St. Petersburg" will not be accepted. This is a final decision. The boat will remain experimental models, which will be tested in one complex - said a senior official of the Navy High Command.

    The main drawback of "Lada" interlocutor "News" called incompletely engine, which has been unable to develop more than half the capacity of a given project.

    In addition, the sonar system is not ready to boats, the development of which has been spent 1.3 billion rubles, the combat information management system "Lithium" torpedo "TE-2 Toy."


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    Читайте далее: ВМФ отказался от новейших подлодок проекта «Лада» - Известия
     
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    New PM Nawaz Sharif: Pakistan-China Econ Ties to Begin and End at Gwadar | PakSinica

    The Kashgar-Gwadar road and rail links are reported to be included in China's 11th 5-year plan
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    瓜达尔=Gwadar, 喀什=Kashgar

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    PM Sharif has many beautiful ideas.

    But he does not have the money.

    His hopes can be fulfilled if China bankrolls Pakistan.
     
  15. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    You could fit Gwadar port into one corner of Toulon navy base. Why is it so small?
     
  16. amoy

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    It's worthwhile for China to fund Gwadar and the links. After completion Xinjiang and CAR can become as "coastal" as Zhejiang.

    Bear in mind the Strait of Hormuz is a chokepoint not only for China, but also for such as India, Japan, Korea...

    "If u hold their balls, u hold their minds" - Nixon

    Also check the world's top 10 ports, most of them are in China. Chinese are good at building ports. So, rest assured Gwadar will be like this someday >>>

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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    One's got to put a lot of money into changing the landscape.

    You get what you pour in.

    Small money, small project!
     
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    Ray The Chairman Defence Professionals Moderator

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    I am glad that Pakistan will once again have a Railway, even though it goes to China.

    Kashgar would be an attractive destination for a certain type of Pakistanis! ;)
     
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    Then what's the use of 3 trillion $$$ forex? Waiting for it to rot in treasury bonds?

    Indigenous people? Haven't u ever heard of Deng's motto "Development is the answer to social problems"?

    Also hope u watch a documentary by National Geograhpic or Dicovery Channel on how Yangshan Port was built out of small islands off the coast of Shanghai to a world class port >>>>
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