China's committing atrocities against Tibetans: Advani

[Tshering22]

Mon, Nov 8 11:15 AM
In unusually strong remarks, senior BJP leader L K Advani today said China's "expansionist" statements such as those on Arunachal Pradesh are creating obstacles in restoring normalcy between the two neighbours.

"I wish China realised that its expansionist statements such as those in relation to Arunachal and its tacit support to Pakistan's hostile attitude towards India are stumbling blocks in the way of restoring normalcy between our two countries," he said in his latest blog posting.

He claimed that the relationship between India and China will be one of the key determinants of the course of world history in the 21st century.

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao will visit India next month for talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other leaders during which the two sides are expected to take up bilateral irritants and ways to sort them out.

"There is no alternative to peaceful coexistence between India and China," Advani stressed.

According to the BJP veteran, despite India's acute sense of betrayal by China in 1962, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, first as External Affairs Minister in the Morarji Desai Government and later as Prime Minister, "consciously exerted" towards achieving this end.

Referring to Tibet and its exiled leader Dalai Lama, Advani said even though a lot of atrocities have been committed and much of the cultural and spiritual heritage of Tibet damaged - "most of all during China's shockingly

mis-named Cultural Revolution (1967-77)" - Tibet continues to be the holy land of the Tibetan people.

"...I do hope and pray that a day will come soon when His Holiness the Dalai Lama and other Tibetan people living in forced exile are able to go back to their Home Land and Holy Land in an honourable and dignified way, and thereafter be able to build the future destiny of Tibet," he said in the blog.

The Dalai Lama and thousands of Tibetans live in exile in India after being forced out of the country in the 1960s.
China calls Dalai Lama a "separatist" and talks between the two sides have failed.


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Looks like someone in India's got raw spine to irk Chinese after their meddling in J&K eh? :emot112:

 

[ganesh177]

Well thats impressive. Suddenly our leaders have begun to show some spine.
MMS said that we are not afraid of "K" word and will not talk with pak unless terror is stopped.
That is gold for my ears.

 

[Ray]

I love this style of saying 'K word', 'P word' etc.

By stating K or P, are we hiding what we are saying?

If not, say it in its complete form!!

 

[Sam2012]

Mon, Nov 8 11:15 AM
In unusually strong remarks, senior BJP leader L K Advani today said China's "expansionist" statements such as those on Arunachal Pradesh are creating obstacles in restoring normalcy between the two neighbours.

"I wish China realised that its expansionist statements such as those in relation to Arunachal and its tacit support to Pakistan's hostile attitude towards India are stumbling blocks in the way of restoring normalcy between our two countries," he said in his latest blog posting.

He claimed that the relationship between India and China will be one of the key determinants of the course of world history in the 21st century.

Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao will visit India next month for talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and other leaders during which the two sides are expected to take up bilateral irritants and ways to sort them out.

"There is no alternative to peaceful coexistence between India and China," Advani stressed.

According to the BJP veteran, despite India's acute sense of betrayal by China in 1962, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, first as External Affairs Minister in the Morarji Desai Government and later as Prime Minister, "consciously exerted" towards achieving this end.

Referring to Tibet and its exiled leader Dalai Lama, Advani said even though a lot of atrocities have been committed and much of the cultural and spiritual heritage of Tibet damaged - "most of all during China's shockingly

mis-named Cultural Revolution (1967-77)" - Tibet continues to be the holy land of the Tibetan people.

"...I do hope and pray that a day will come soon when His Holiness the Dalai Lama and other Tibetan people living in forced exile are able to go back to their Home Land and Holy Land in an honourable and dignified way, and thereafter be able to build the future destiny of Tibet," he said in the blog.

The Dalai Lama and thousands of Tibetans live in exile in India after being forced out of the country in the 1960s.
China calls Dalai Lama a "separatist" and talks between the two sides have failed.


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Looks like someone in India's got raw spine to irk Chinese after their meddling in J&K eh? :emot112:

They are doing this for 50+ years what is new in that , If Mr. Advani is so pissed of with that let him go & liberate Tibet from China
just like the mess which he has created in India after demolition of Babri masjid in India & after that cowardly agreeing in pakistan that was wrong deed

If u have guts to do some thing good or bad , one should have same guts to defend that . If not he or she has to shut that hell up our politicians are paper heros just like this white haired baboon :thumb:

 

[t_co]

They are doing this for 50+ years what is new in that , If Mr. Advani is so pissed of with that let him go & liberate Tibet from China
just like the mess which he has created in India after demolition of Babri masjid in India & after that cowardly agreeing in pakistan that was wrong deed

If u have guts to do some thing good or bad , one should have same guts to defend that . If not he or she has to shut that hell up our politicians are paper heros just like this white haired baboon :thumb:

Yep... looks like it's election season in India again

 

[Sam2012]

Yep... looks like it's election season in India again

Yes but your chinese govt are no saints , if they have any internal problems they raise border issue , maritime issue etc

All these politicians are two face of same coin :thumb:

 

[badguy2000]

guy, common tibetan earn much more and have a much higher life quality than their neighbours in Arunachal Pradesh so called.

face the fact, people in Arunachal Pradesh so called do'nt live a better life than people in black Africa.

 

[amoy]

Yes but your chinese govt are no saints , if they have any internal problems they raise border issue , maritime issue etc

All these politicians are two face of same coin :thumb:

Out of generosity, and humanitarian concerns, India shall grant citizenship for Tibetans in exile and establish a Tibetan state with Dharamsala as capital (or Darjeeling?) inside India. Or shall Tibetan Indians share a homeland together with Sikkim and Ladakh who have the same cultural heritage with Tibetans? In India they are able to get as close as possible to their spiritual leaders, be it Dalai Lama or Karmapa or whatever, or be it Gelugpa or Sagyapa or Kagypa, and worship ten thousand idols as much as they like.

As Chinese including Tibetans who stay progressively on the other side of the border, we can just leave them alone as they've anyway disowned China, and dump the spiritual opium (dharma or karma, whatever) back while keeping Karma Sutra only.

Then, Advani may receive extra votes.

That would be a win-win, or win-win-win.

 

[xizhimen]

NEWSWEEK
Whether they like it or not, China has been very good for Tibetans.

Feb 16, 2010 7:00 PM EST

Isaac Stone Fish

President Obama's controversial meeting with the Dalai Lama this week has already infuriated China and stirred up Tibet advocates who thought it should have come sooner. China says Tibet is part of its territory, and that the meeting represents an unwanted intrusion into its domestic affairs. But most Americans still see the Dalai Lama as the representative of a people oppressed by Chinese rule. Tibetans feel chafed by the restrictions on their political and religious freedoms; many are dissatisfied with Chinese rule, and this has led to widespread rioting over the past few years. They want self-determination; fair enough. But that seems to be the only story about Tibet that is ever told. The other story is that, for China's many blunders in mountainous region, it has erected a booming economy there. Looking at growth, standard of living, infrastructure, and GDP, one thing is clear: China has been good for Tibet.

Since 2001, Beijing has spent $45.4 billion on development in the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR). (That's what the Chinese government calls Tibet, even though many Tibetans live in neighboring provinces, too). The effect: double-digit GDP growth for the past nine years. About a third of the money went to infrastructure investment, including the train connecting Beijing to Lhasa. "A clear benefit of the train was that it makes industrial goods cheaper for Tibetans, who, like everyone else in the world, like household conveniences, but normally had to pay very high prices," said Ben Hillman, a Tibet expert from the Australian National University's China Institute. The train also provides an opportunity for Tibetan goods to be sold outside of the region and for a massive increase in number of tourists, reaching more than 5.5 million in 2009—up from close to 2 million in 2005, the year before the train. The Chinese government's Tibet tourism bureau expects the numbers to keep climbing. While Tibetan independence groups like Free Tibet raise sustainability concerns about the increase in tourism, Hillman points out that "tourism is an important industry that can benefit local Tibetans."

Infrastructure improvements have not only helped grow the economy but also have aided in modernizing remote parts of the Tibetan plateau, an area with 3 million people about twice the size of France. Paved roads allow herders easier access to hospitals and the capital, where they sell handicrafts. "Cellphone service in parts of western Tibet is better than in parts of New Jersey," said Gray Tuttle, an assistant professor of modern Tibetan studies at Columbia University.

Since 2006, the Chinese central government has been shifting its Tibet development strategy from funding massive infrastructure projects to programs intended to bring greater benefit to individual Tibetans. While Han migrants may compete for jobs with Tibetans in urban areas, diffusing the benefits more broadly among Chinese, the net per-capita income of rural residents was $527 in 2009, an increase of more than 13 percent from the 2008 figure and the fourth year in a row where growth exceeded 13 percent. While still low, it represents an increase in wealth creation at the lowest levels. Although Chinese statistics on Tibet, like Chinese statistics in general, are impossible to verify, it seems clear that material living standards among the 80 to 90 percent of the population living in rural Tibet are rising rapidly.

"I was amazed at the amount of money actually being spent in these villages," said Melvyn Goldstein, codirector of the Center for Research on Tibet at Case Western Reserve University. Through extensive rural fieldwork in the TAR, Goldstein found that "health-insurance plans are getting better, bank loans are now more accessible, schooling is free for primary school and middle school, and access to electricity and water is improving." At the improved schools, students learn Mandarin, which gives Tibetans access to work opportunities in government offices in Tibet and in companies throughout China.

Last month, President Hu Jintao held the Communist Party's fifth Tibet planning conference, the first since 2001, to strategize on the upcoming years. He said that Tibetan rural income will likely match China's average by 2020. And he stressed the need for Tibet, beset by the "special contradiction" of the Dalai Lama, to develop using the "combination of economic growth, well-off life, a healthy eco-environment, and social stability and progress."

It's true that, so far, all the money has failed to buy Tibetan loyalty. Beijing won't deal with the Dalai Lama, even though Tibetans revere him, nor will it let his monastic followers build any power or voice any nationalist sympathy. Instead, the government is offering Tibetans the same bargain it has offered the rest of the country: in exchange for an astronomical rise in living standards, the government requires citizens to relinquish the right to free worship and free speech. The Chinese government has kept its end of the deal. Even if Tibetan residents never signed the contract, they have benefited from its enforcement—a fact Obama might keep in mind when he meets the Dalai Lama.

 

[Sam2012]

Out of generosity, and humanitarian concerns, India shall grant citizenship for Tibetans in exile and establish a Tibetan state with Dharamsala as capital (or Darjeeling?) inside India. Or shall Tibetan Indians share a homeland together with Sikkim and Ladakh who have the same cultural heritage with Tibetans? In India they are able to get as close as possible to their spiritual leaders, be it Dalai Lama or Karmapa or whatever, or be it Gelugpa or Sagyapa or Kagypa, and worship ten thousand idols as much as they like.

As Chinese including Tibetans who stay progressively on the other side of the border, we can just leave them alone as they've anyway disowned China, and dump the spiritual opium (dharma or karma, whatever) back while keeping Karma Sutra only.

Then, Advani may receive extra votes.

That would be a win-win, or win-win-win.

Again it is political game , China supports Moaist Naxals in India provides weapon & training

China haslarger presence in POK , so india counters it wil supporting tibetans simple none of the party should feel guity 1=1 :thumb:

 

[Sam2012]

For about Advani getting Vote , he will not be PM candidate in 2014 it will be NARENDRA MODI and he is man of his own words not like advani

So chinese need not worry about advani statement , but prepare to engage Narendra modi in future in right way wish u all the best:thumb:

 

[t_co]

Yes but your chinese govt are no saints , if they have any internal problems they raise border issue , maritime issue etc

All these politicians are two face of same coin :thumb:

Of course. I agree with a lot of you here when you say that how loudly China raises its border/maritime claims is partially driven by internal factors.

 

[t_co]

For about Advani getting Vote , he will not be PM candidate in 2014 it will be NARENDRA MODI and he is man of his own words not like advani

So chinese need not worry about advani statement , but prepare to engage Narendra modi in future in right way wish u all the best:thumb:

Hopefully Modi will be able to deliver the votes of the BJP hardliners in Parliament, so as to keep his word on any compromises he hashes out with China.

 

[Ray]

Mr Stone Fish is Stoned!

 

[satish007]

"Maghi Festival" held in Nepal to mark start of New Year
"Maghi Festival" held in Nepal to mark start of New Year - Lifestyle News - SINA English

Maghi Sankranti is celebrated by Nepalese on the first day of 10th month in Hindu Lunar Calendar

Tibetans busy with New Year purchase

damn , only buying goods, not celebrate dancing girl? are they losing they culture?
what's the hell India , Nepel celebrate Tibetan New Year.

BTW, looks Nepalese girls have better looking than Tibetan girls.
and Nepalese girls never marry none Nepalese men and never have sex before marry?

 

[t_co]

"Maghi Festival" held in Nepal to mark start of New Year
"Maghi Festival" held in Nepal to mark start of New Year - Lifestyle News - SINA English

Maghi Sankranti is celebrated by Nepalese on the first day of 10th month in Hindu Lunar Calendar

Hot. I'd do that girl on the right.

 

[satish007]

all celebrating Mala regions belongs to Tibet and should controlled by China.

 

[satish007]

[SCRIBD][/SCRIBD]

Hot. I'd do that girl on the right.

Never do that, your business will be cut off by their national weapon.
their father and brothers all are brave Gurkha solders , even braver than my avator.

 

[t_co]

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Never do that, your business will be cut off by their national weapon.
their father and brothers all are brave Gurkha solders , even braver than my avator.

You're probably right

 

[amoy]

Hot. I'd do that girl on the right.

Don't! India will pass a law of castration for harassments. Browse for details pls