China warns US-friendly neighbours

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well, one correction . it will be not by 2030,but by 2020 that china will overtake US GDP.

Eventually,banana republcs around china have to be accept the fate to be a client-economies of CHina,whatever they complain about CHina ,because money talk more loudly than anything in the case of internaional relations.
Buddy you are commie state, when you people grow powerful you will end the show of the Capital market, then we banana republic how will we adapt commie principle. You people see money only when powerful capital market is present and you till remain as cheap manufacturing grounds till a apt competitor comes in.

Remember you people are blossoming because of the Unkil's money, Think what if he write off all the Debt.
 

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The meaning behind this warning depends on the American commitment to get itself involved in this region.
If the US is committed to expanding influence in South China, then China has many reasons to worry.

Judging from the continuously growing love between US and Vietnam, the Americans are there to stay. I may be incorrect in this judgement, but I personally see a lack of aggression in American policies in their South China expansion. This might be well calculated not to seem too provocative.

Vietnam however is not enough.

The FTAs with Malaysia are not in place yet, despite many rounds of talks. Military Co-operation must also be expanded beyond Southeast Asia Regional Center for Counterterrorism (SEARCCT).
The 1952 U.S.-Philippines Mutual Defense Treaty (MDT) can be expanded to incorporate greater naval involvement. But those countries need to choose a side for any of this to happen.
Right now, its convenient for them to sit and watch this power struggle, milk both and side with the victor.
 

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the post is in chnk , so perhaps they are warning either taiwan or themselves ??
 

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well, one correction . it will be not by 2030,but by 2020 that china will overtake US GDP.

Eventually,banana republcs around china have to be accept the fate to be a client-economies of CHina,whatever they complain about CHina ,because money talk more loudly than anything in the case of internaional relations.
no actually China will never reach the size of U.S for a number of reasons

1)Most of the prediction's we make r based on IMF figures,which predict on the basis of current known figures,did they predicted the economic crisis,the european crisis,the fall of soviet,we even dont know how many more r slated to come in the next few yrs,during the 70's and 80's American economy was also growing at a 5-6 %,so according to IMF's 50 yr prediction's it should have stil grown at the same rate,but it is not

2)Once ur size of the gdp reach a particular level the growth rate starts to decline,it had happened to U.S,Japan and Germany,the same will happen to China also,a 10% rate is not foreever

3)Like many Chinese belive U.S growth rate had not stagnated,even at a 2 % they r still adding $280 billion to their economy annually,which is not much less then China adding some $400 billion to its economy

4)Even the Chinese economy had by now started to take a tumble,most of the FDI's from southern China is now diverted towards Vietnam,who had a much better infrastructure than China(at an avg),added by the resurgence of India which had started to turn as the new factory of world with the ever improving infrastructure

China may reach the same size of U.S or will remain stucked below,overtaking it will b a far fetched dream
 

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china knows that it will never amount to being world eceonomy #1 surpassing usa if it goes into a war with either russia or india or both! so this is a series of claims to put india on the defensive and distract attention from the fact that india actually holds an important key to china's aspirations to be world #1 and india can actually prevent that from taking place !
 

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So that means china will add 1 trillion $ every year even if US is kept static. Are you joking ? 2030 seems to be an optimistic prediction considering china does not get entangled in any war during these period.
2007, CHina GDP was less 3 trillion USD
2009, CHna's GDP was almost 5 trillion USD... why can't CHina add 1 trillion $ every year?

if a bigger base is considered, it is not surprise at all that China adds 2 trillion $,or even 3 trillion$ every year after CHina's GDP is more than 6 trillion USD.
 
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This badguy is in some delusion. Banks of china have huge bad loans . Tomorrow if USA starts trade war, whole dream will come to an end.
you seem to believe that wall street is more healthy than CHna's banks..
 

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Stuff's like warning neighboring countries and provoking them aint gonna help China , all these things are to show how China is a regional superpower. But its forgetting countries like India , S.Korea , Japan , Vietnam exists in these regions who are powerful enough to bring China back to reality. China can learn from India "how to make Friends".
Also if China will be the no.1 economy and surpasses US , it won't be the centre of world politics as US is today cause there be another nation besides it " INDIA ".
does india have firend among its neighbours?
 

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^^And China has many friends among its neighbours? Pakistan is your only friend, and only because both China and Pak are too pussy to confront India on their own. They need each other's help against India.
 

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does india have firend among its neighbours?
In politics, there are no friends. It is only permanent interests.

Do let us know if the neighbours are not dependent on India, not only economically, but also from a strategic standpoint.
 

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Who is China to dictate who others can hold military exercises with? There is a rising force of fascism in Asia. I hope someone can clip the wings of this paper dragon before its too late.
 

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does india have firend among its neighbours?
Do you know how many enemies you created in your neighborhood?

If China and Pakistan can work together to take on India then why not Chinese rivals. And let me tell you that you are heavily outnumbered and outpowered:funny_2:
 

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does india have firend among its neighbours?
well actually no,and it is actually trying to study China as how u made a lot of friends in South Asia,ASEAN and East Asia,with India,Japan and Vietnam attaining the rank of all weather friend Of China
 

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does india have firend among its neighbours?
No we do not. And neither does any other country. In international relations there are no friends, only interests and allies. And among India's neighbors, we definitely have allies. Bhutan and Maldives are two very close allies of India. Even Burma (I refuse to call it "Myanmar" or whatever) can be considered an ally of India, even though their government is a military dictatorship with a human rights record even worse than China's. Why would India chose to be allies with a military dictatorship? Because we have interests there (personally, I feel that India should support covert movements to overthrow the junta government in Burma, but that is just my opinion. A government as hideous as the Burmese one should not exist in South Asia).
 

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China's Fast Rise Leads Neighbors to Join Forces


HANOI, Vietnam — China's military expansion and assertive trade policies have set off jitters across Asia, prompting many of its neighbors to rekindle old alliances and cultivate new ones to better defend their interests against the rising superpower.

A whirl of deal-making and diplomacy, from Tokyo to New Delhi, is giving the United States an opportunity to reassert itself in a region where its eclipse by China has been viewed as inevitable.

President Obama's trip to the region this week, his most extensive as president, will take him to the area's big democracies, India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan, skirting authoritarian China. Those countries and other neighbors have taken steps, though with varying degrees of candor, to blunt China's assertiveness in the region.

Mr. Obama and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh of India are expected to sign a landmark deal for American military transport aircraft and are discussing the possible sale of jet fighters, which would escalate the Pentagon's defense partnership with India to new heights. Japan and India are courting Southeast Asian nations with trade agreements and talk of a "circle of democracy." Vietnam has a rapidly warming rapport with its old foe, the United States, in large part because its old friend, China, makes broad territorial claims in the South China Sea.

The deals and alliances are not intended to contain China. But they suggest a palpable shift in the diplomatic landscape, on vivid display as leaders from 18 countries gathered this weekend under the wavelike roof of Hanoi's futuristic convention center, not far from Ho Chi Minh's mausoleum, for a meeting suffused by tensions between China and its neighbors.

China's escalating feud with Japan over another set of islands, in the East China Sea, stole the meeting's headlines on Saturday, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton proposed three-way negotiations to resolve the issue.

Most Asian countries, even as they argue that China will inevitably replace the United States as the top regional power, have grown concerned at how quickly that shift is occurring, and what China the superpower may look like.

China's big trading partners are complaining more loudly that it intervenes too aggressively to keep its currency undervalued. Its recent restrictions on exports of crucial rare earths minerals, first to Japan and then to the United States and Europe, raised the prospect that it may use its dominant positions in some industries as a diplomatic and political weapon.

And its rapid naval expansion, combined with a more strident defense of its claims to disputed territories far off its shores, has persuaded Japan, South Korea, Vietnam and Singapore to reaffirm their enthusiasm for the American security umbrella.

"The most common thing that Asian leaders have said to me in my travels over this last 20 months is, 'Thank you, we're so glad that you're playing an active role in Asia again,' " Mrs. Clinton said in Hawaii, opening a seven-country tour of Asia that included a last-minute stop in China.

Few of China's neighbors voice their concerns about the country publicly, but analysts and diplomats say they express wariness about the pace of China's military expansion and the severity of its trade policies in private.

"Most of these countries have come to us and said, 'We're really worried about China,' " said Kenneth G. Lieberthal, a China adviser to President Bill Clinton who is now at the Brookings Institution.

The Obama administration has been quick to capitalize on China's missteps. Where officials used to speak of China as the Asian economic giant, they now speak of India and China as twin giants. And they make clear which one they believe has a closer affinity to the United States.

"India and the United States have never mattered more to each other," Mrs. Clinton said. "As the world's two largest democracies, we are united by common interests and common values."

As Mr. Obama prepares to visit India in his first stop on his tour of Asian democracies, Mr. Singh, India's prime minister, will have just returned from his own grand tour — with both of them somewhat conspicuously, if at least partly coincidentally, circling China.

None of this seems likely to lead to a cold war-style standoff. China is fully integrated into the global economy, and all of its neighbors are eager to deepen their ties with it. China has fought no wars since a border skirmish with Vietnam three decades ago, and it often emphasizes that it has no intention of projecting power through the use of force.

At the same time, fears that China has become more assertive as it has grown richer are having real consequences.

India is promoting itself throughout the region as a counterweight to China; Japan is settling a dispute with the United States over a Marine air base; the Vietnamese are negotiating a deal to obtain civilian nuclear technology from the United States; and the Americans, who had largely ignored the rest of Asia as they waged wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, see an opportunity to come back in a big way.

In July, for example, Mrs. Clinton reassured Vietnam and the Philippines by announcing that the United States would be willing to help resolve disputes between China and its neighbors over a string of strategically important islands in the South China Sea.China's foreign minister, Yang Jiechi, reacted furiously, accusing the United States of plotting against it, according to people briefed on the meeting. Mr. Yang went on to note that China was a big country, staring pointedly at the foreign minister of tiny Singapore. Undaunted, Mrs. Clinton not only repeated the American pledge on the South China Sea in Hanoi on Saturday, but expanded it to include the dispute with Japan.

China's rise as an authoritarian power has also revived a sense that democracies should stick together. K. Subrahmanyam, an influential strategic analyst in India, noted that half the world's people now live in democracies and that of the world's six biggest powers, only China has not accepted democracy.

"Today the problem is a rising China that is not democratic and is challenging for the No. 1 position in the world," he said.

Indeed, how to deal with China seems to be an abiding preoccupation of Asia's leaders. In Japan, Prime Minister Naoto Kan and Mr. Singh discussed China's booming economy, military expansion and increased territorial assertiveness.

"Prime Minister Kan was keen to understand how India engages China," India's foreign secretary, Nirupama Rao, told reporters. "Our prime minister said it requires developing trust, close engagement and a lot of patience."

South Korea was deeply frustrated earlier this year when China blocked an explicit international condemnation of North Korea for sinking a South Korean warship, the Cheonan. South Korea accused North Korea of the attack, but China, a historic ally of the North, was unwilling to hold it responsible.

India has watched nervously as China has started building ports in Sri Lanka and Pakistan, extending rail lines toward the border of Nepal, and otherwise seeking to expand its footprint in South Asia.

India's Defense Ministry has sought military contacts with a host of Asian nations while steadily expanding contacts and weapons procurements from the United States. The United States, American officials said, has conducted more exercises in recent years with India than with any other nation.

Mr. Singh's trip was part of his "Look East" policy, intended to broaden trade with the rest of Asia. He has said it was not related to any frictions with China, but China is concerned. On Thursday, People's Daily, the Communist Party newspaper, ran an opinion article asking, "Does India's 'Look East' Policy Mean 'Look to Encircle China'?"

That wary view may well reflect China's reaction to the whole panoply of developments among its neighbors.

"The Chinese perceived the Hanoi meeting as a gang attack on them," said Charles Freeman, an expert on Chinese politics and economics at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "There's no question that they have miscalculated their own standing in the region."
 

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Does China have any friends in the neighbourhood?

I feel sad for China, they are so pious and so full of beautiful thoughts.

They are not expanding in the South China Sea or even demanding that Spratly Islands are only theirs. They only want to excavate the minerals and merely drill out the oil and then help the hungry world by sharing it with them! They are so magnanimous! Of course, some money has to be paid, but then what is money between friends?

Now, they are doing the hard work and everyone is after their tail!

Not cricket. what ho?
 
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I think engaging in war of words with neighbours is no sign of powerfull country!!!

CHINA should learn some lesson from its own history ... when chinese claim that INDIA never exists in history .. probabily they are neglecting their own history... when was china exists as united CHINA in history..? they were rulled by mangols & japanese ....

when they advise us about to be very carefull about western nations ... they should examine about themself.. whether they are good for india? ... at least any of western nations not claiming "ARUNACHAL PRADESH" ...

What happened to CHINA?... are they aware, with what they are playing? or CCP has given wrong dreams to chinese people?
 

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Western political models impossible to copy
Over the years, in the name of offering advice for political restructuring, some Western forces and their supporters have constantly put forward the so-called "constitutional reform" proposals focusing on multi-party systems and the separation of the government into three powers. In doing so, the advocates Western democracy, freedom and human rights mislead the public as well as attack the leadership of the Communist Party of China and the socialist system.

All these things reflect their thoughts that China should copy the Western political system. It is rooted in the wrong and harmful idea that the "party rotation," "separation of powers" and "parliamentary democracy" in Western countries are the best systems and are suited for any country.

The precondition for the formation of Western political models is both shameful and impossible to copy.

First, the development of Western countries was based on horrifying pillage and plunder over a long time. According to data provided by Western scholars, for 500 years, 30 million Native Americans suffered genocide and 50 million black slaves were sold to the Americas as a free labor force.

Second, under the pattern of global production and distribution, Western developed countries grabbed the utmost profits, and their development is based on the exploitation of third-world countries. If the wealth base were removed, the so-called electoral and multi-party systems would be difficult to maintain.

So far, almost all third-world countries that simply copied the democratic systems of Western nations have failed, and one important reason is that they do not have as much wealth as Western countries do. If serious interest conflicts occur in a pluralist society, the election will lose effectiveness, and social interests will definitely be redistributed through violence.

In order to reduce internal interest conflicts, Western countries have to establish expensive welfare systems through high transfer payments, but the basis of the welfare systems is the enormous wealth and resources they have been exacting from other parts of the world.

The Western world's so-called democratic system and functioning civil society would quickly collapse without this basis. For example, riots broke out in Paris and several other French cities in 2005, mainly because a large number of Arabian immigrants, especially youths, found it difficult to land jobs after they moved to France and gradually became resentful of the society. If we go deep enough, we may discover the underlying cause is wealth. The French welfare system is not able to cover all immigrants after all.

What happened after a hurricane hit the relatively poor New Orleans, Louisiana in the United States in August 2005 is yet another example. Due to many rape allegations and armed robberies in the disaster-stricken areas, the army for hurricane relief had to drive armored vehicles and be fully armed. This will never happen in China.

There have been no more than 20 Western developed countries since the 18th century. This bloc has a total population of up to 1 billion, accounting for one-seventh to one-eighth of the world's total. One billion people is the limit of this "rich man's club" because there is no way to make their extravagant life style universal.

We certainly admit and borrow ideas from all the achievements of human civilization, including some useful practices and experiences of Western countries.

However, there is absolutely no reason for us to copy them. The excellent situation of modern China is a hard-won achievement — especially under the volatile international situation and the growing economic crisis. The superior ability of socialist countries to concentrate strength on major problems is continually reflected.

If we copy Western countries, we will lose the ideological basis of the common struggle and the strong leadership core. As a result, the country will soon become a mess and the great cause of national rejuvenation will never be realized.

The Chinese road is a whole new road of the whole nation with independence, hard work, self-esteem and self-improvement and has been created by the lives and blood of millions of Chinese people. However, certain people want to become a new political force through relying on foreign forces. They use dry, abstract sermons and political terms to cover up their selfishness and these people will eventually be cast aside for the people.

By People's Daily Online
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90780/91342/7181429.html



The China Daily is owned and published by the Communist Party of China.
 
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Communist CHINA`s Ugly face

CHINA have many recent societal problems emerging. Many people are very insecure and anxious on various levels. The gaps between the urban rich and rural poor is widening. Corruption is rampant at all levels of government and business. The re-nationalization of industries are limiting growth potential for the private sector. The inflated real estate bubble is preventing many youths from acquiring homes. And the rich Chinese are leaving China for Hong Kong or the United States.

We know how the police mis-treated migrant and rural Chinese in Tienanmen Square.
We Know the toxic waste dump that has become of Shanxi Provence.
We Know how the City of Shanghai were so ashamed of its migrant residents that they were kept out of town during the World Expo.

The bottom line is that the Communist Party Bureaucracy primary goal is to rule for rule sake. They will do anything to distract and placate the masses from ever demanding political reforms. This too has many consequences as it raises the expectations of the masses for a guaranteed 8% growth rate, low manipulated currency to guarantee exports, and Communist Party Banks giving out loans to State-owned industries leaving the private sector high and dry.


At this rate we all know where CHINA is heading..
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