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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Hi guys,

    There are some facts (In fact horrible facts) which everybody should know and they should come out in open so that people may know the real china. I will keep on posting Articles and videos and pictures on china so that forum members may be enlighted with the reality of china. You all are requested to participate like the thread "Idiotic Musing Pakistan".

    I well come all you t participate.
     
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    People are lined up for execution. Horrible truth of china.

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    In rogue nations, you have to use highest degree of punishment to maintain fear to keep law and order under control. China executes highest numbers of people in the world and second highest per capita.
     
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    A girl is taken for execution.

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    Kneeling before execution.

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    And Traitors of our country are free to say anything ,they should get same treatment .
     
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    That is bad practice. They are killing their own people without mercy.
     
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    reality chinese growth.

    https://qz.com/102918/local-governm...n-last-year-and-thats-not-going-to-stop-soon/

    Chinese president Xi Jinping recently said that the government wouldstop tying promotions of local government officials to GDP performance alone. This is important because local leaders under pressure to produce high economic output are much more prone to spending wastefully and in ways that harm the environment.

    Although this was hailed as a big breakthrough when Xi made the pronouncement, the last government made similar promises. Here’s a look at how effective those were:

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    Local governments reported a combined $9.4 trillion in economic output in 2012—11.1% higher than the central government’s final GDP calculation. And their noses have only gotten longer in recent years. Back in 2009, local government GDP inflation was only 8.0% higher than the $5.5 trillion the central government reported.

    This isn’t just bureaucratic farce (though it is that too). Layers of inflated economic growth from the local level could be understating how sharp China’s slowdown actually is. National Business Daily reports that when the National Bureau of Statistics began doing spot-checks on industrial companies in Zhongshan, a city in Guangdong, it found that the local government reported a combined 85 billion yuan in output for 71 of its companies, just a bit higher than the 2.2 billion yuan they actually generated (link in Chinese). It’s hard to believe the central government statisticians would be able to filter out such an extreme degree of exaggeration when totting up their own GDP calculations. Distortions like that could be misleading central government economic planners, and as the recent interbank loan spikes hinted, that can lead to big policy missteps.

    All things considered, though, inflating data is probably the least harmful outcomes of the Chinese Communist Party’s emphasis on GDP performance. In fact, it’s a lot better than relying on credit to stimulate the economy.

    Unfortunately, just because Xi hints it’s safe for local officials to come clean about lousy economic output doesn’t mean they will—or that they’ll cut back on their credit habit.

    Many poorer provinces don’t have a lot of options at their disposal. Particularly in the central provinces, foreign investment and domestic consumption simply aren’t enough to buoy growth (link in Chinese). As a provincial deputy governor told NBD about the need for local government to keep investing, “The central government sets the target at 7-8%, and since we’re not a province with a strong economy, our target has to exceed 10%. And with the not-so-great economic situation, surpassing that target is now more urgent.”

    Even if the central government catches all that fibbing, it’s counting the credit-bingeing. That’s a good thing to keep in mind on July 15, whenChina announces its Q2 GDP.
     
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    What can you expect from a rogue state?
     
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    aditya10r Mera Bharat mahan Senior Member

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    I have been to China twice and the experience was bitter sweet.

    The people love Bollywood movies and the culture(met an Indian guy married to a chinese girl)

    People are pissed off with government firewall.
    They fear that the real estate bubble will burst and hell will break loose upon em.

    One thing I noticed.
    If you go eastwards or southwards,the shining image starts to diminish.....

    People are poor in the inner Mongolia.

    The pollution is strong enough to make anyone sick.

    And the worst experience was,i was with a friend in Shanghai,we ordered our food(we had trouble reading the menu card and misunderstanding with the restaurant manager),we were served the testicles of a HORSE.......

    Some of the people had absolutely no clue about Pakistan except a few(mainly because of Xinjiang terrorism)
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    MY TRIP WAS ABOUT 3-4 YEARS AGO.....
     
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    My Chinese friends told me when I was working in Hong Kong that most people get killed in China are by Chinese. History would have told us the story. China could be very cruel to its own people.
     
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    You were lucky not to be served with DOG testicles or rat or cat.
     
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    Chinese scientist said that J 15 is a junk fighter and can not carry any load except few air to air missile.

    Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter



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    In an unusual departure for mainland Chinese-language media, the Beijing-based Sina Military Network (SMN) criticized the capabilities of the carrier-borne J-15 Flying Shark as nothing more than a “flopping fish.”
    On Sept. 22, the state-controlled China Daily Times reported the new aircraft carrier Liaoning had just finished a three-month voyage and conducted over 100 sorties of “various aircraft,” of which the J-15 “took off and landed on the carrier with maximum load and various weapons.” This report was also carried on the official Liberation Army Daily.
    Contradicting any report by official military or government media is unusual in China given state control of the media.
    What sounded more like a rant than analysis, SMN, on Sept. 23, reported the new J-15 was incapable of flying from the Liaoning with heavy weapons, “effectively crippling its attack range and firepower.”
    The fighter can take off and land on the carrier with two YJ-83K anti-ship missiles, two PL-8 air-to-air missiles, and four 500-kilogram bombs. But a weapons “load exceeding 12 tons will not get it off the carrier’s ski jump ramp.” This might prohibit it from carrying heavier munitions such as PL-12 medium-range air-to-air missiles.
    To further complicate things, the J-15 can carry only two tons of weapons while fully fueled. “This would equip it with no more than two YJ-83K and two PL-8 missiles,” thus the “range of the YJ-83K prepared for the fighter will be shorter than comparable YJ-83K missiles launched from larger PLAN [People’s Liberation Army Navy] vessels. The J-15 will be boxed into less than 120 [kilometers] of attack range.”
    Losing the ability to carry the PL-12 medium-range air-to-air missiles will make the J-15 an “unlikely match” against other foreign carrier-based fighters.
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    “Even the Vietnam People’s Air Force can outmatch the PL-8 short-range missile. Without space for an electronic countermeasure pod, a huge number of J-15s must be mobilized for even simple missions, a waste for the PLA Navy in using the precious space aboard its sole aircraft carrier in service.”
    Built by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, the J-15 is a copy of the Russian-made Su-33. China acquired an Su-33 prototype from the Ukraine in 2001. Avionics are most likely the same as the J-11B (Su-27). In 2006, Russia accused China of reverse engineering the Su-27 and canceled a production license to build 200 Su-27s after only 95 aircraft had been built.
    Vasily Kashin, a China military specialist at the Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, suggests the J-15 might be a better aircraft than the Su-33. “I think that there might be some improvements because electronic equipment now weighs less than in the 1990s,” he said. It could also be lighter due to new composites that China is using on the J-11B that were not available on the original Su-33.
    Despite improvements, Kashin wonders why the Chinese bothered with the Su-33 given the fact that Russia gave up on it. Weight problems and other issues forced the Russians to develop the MiG-29K, which has better power-to-weight ratio and can carry more weapons. “Of course, when the Chinese get their future carriers equipped with catapults, that limitation will not apply and they will be able to fully realize Su-33/J-15 potential — huge range and good payload,” Kashin said.
    The Liaoning is the problem. The carrier is small — 53,000 tons — and uses a ski jump. From Russia’s experience, “taking off from the carrierwith takeoff weight exceeding some 26 tons is very difficult,” Kashin said.
    Roger Cliff, a China defense specialist for the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington, said this is “one of the reasons why sky-jump carriers can’t be considered to be equivalent to full-size carriers with catapults.”
    A number of unanswered questions are raised by the SMN report, Kashin said, including the amount of fuel on board, carrier speed, wind speed and direction.
    Cliff also raises issues with SMN’s conclusions. “It doesn’t make sense to me that the J-15 can take off with YJ-83s but not PL-12s, since the YJ-83 weighs about 1,800 pounds and the PL-12 weighs about 400 pounds.”
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    A possible answer is that it was unable to take off with both. “The article says that it can only carry ‘two tons’ of missiles and munitions when fully fueled, which is 4,400 pounds, and two YJ-83s plus two PL-8s would weigh over 4,000 pounds, leaving no margin for any PL-12s. But I don’t see why it couldn’t take off with PL-12s if it wasn’t carrying YJ-83s.” Cliffconcludes that the J-15 should be capable of carrying PL-12s when it is flying purely air-to-air missions and that “it probably just can’t carry PL-12s when it is flying a strike mission.”
    Kashin said the J-15, unlike the Su-33, should have a “potent” internal countermeasures suite, thus allowing for more space for weapons. The SMN report suggests it has an external electronic countermeasures (ECM) pod.
    Weight issues should also not be too much of a problem for the J-15, he said, since the Su-33 did fly from the same type of carrier carrying “6-8air-to-air missiles and Sorbtsia ECM pods carrying something like 6 to 6.5 tons of fuel.”
    China’s next carriers will reportedly use electromagnetic catapults, Kashin said, but “limitations are significant when it comes to air-to-surface weapons, which limit the J-15’s use as a multirole fighter.
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    J 31 is an another Big Junk.

    Chinese junk? Latest fighter plane from People's Army ticketed for export
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    Published October 01, 2013
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    October 31, 2012: The J-31, or Falcon Hawk, participates in a test flight in Shenyang, Liaoning province, China. (REUTERS)

    A new fighter plane built by China is drawing more snickers than raves from aviation experts, and the People's Army is now saying the jet was really ticketed for export all along.

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    The J-31 "Falcon Hawk," likely designed by reverse-engineering a downed U.S. stealth fighter, was supposed “to become China’s next generation of carrier-based aircraft” and take its place next to the U.S.-made F-35 Lightning II as the gold standard in air force weaponry, according to a report last month in People’s Daily. But now it looks like China, which has exactly one aircraft carrier, has scaled back the hype and will peddle the aircraft to second-tier air forces like Brazil, Pakistan and some Middle East countries.

    “It’s probably likely that the technology was not originally created for export but built for their own use and it did not work out too well,” Stephen Biddle, a political science professor at George Washington University and senior defense policy fellow at the Council for Foreign Relations told FoxNews.com.

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    Even the Chinese press has been critical of the jets manufactured by the country, with Bejing-based Sina Military Network calling another fighter, the J-15, a “flopping fish,” and claiming that the plane could not take off from a carrier with heavy ammunitions which could cripple its attack range as well as firepower.

    Aviation experts say that based on the limited information publicly available of the J-31, it appears to be little more than a cheap copy of an American fighter jet.

    "The J-31 is sort of a copy of the F-22, the most advanced (and troubled), U.S. multi-role fighter jet," David Cenciotti, a former pilot for the Italian Air Force who blogs at theaviationist.com, told FoxNews.com. "Same nose section, same twin tails and trapezoidal wings along with the distinctive lines of the stealth design."

    But Cenciotti said the aircraft doesn’t appear to have thrust vectoring capabilities that give fighter planes superior maneuverability. He suspects it was based on American warplanes, and not just the F-117 stealth jet downed in 1999 by a Serbian anti-aircraft missile.

    "Considering all the cyber attacks targeting Lockheed Martin stealth projects in the last years, one could believe Chinese hackers were able to put their hands on some useful technical drawings of the Raptor or F-35," he said.

    No amount of espionage or copying of U.S. technology can duplicate American air power, according to Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Il.) an Air Force veteran who still serves as a pilot in the Air National Guard.

    “America has always produced and flown the top aviation machines in the world," Kinzinger told FoxNews.com. "While China’s claims about the capabilities of the J-31 have raised some eyebrows, consider me a skeptic until I see the proof.”

    James Hardy, Asia-Pacific Editor of Jane’s Defence Weekly, said there is no way to compare the J-31 to other fighter planes, given the secrecy still surrounding it.

    “Because we have only limited data on the J-31, it impossible to say whether it is inferior to the F-35,” Hardy said. "Qualitatively there's no way to compare unless we know its fire-control radar, subsystems, avionics, and what it is made of. Its planform [silhouette] certainly makes it look like a fifth generation fighter, but what materials it is made of and all kinds of other questions mean judging its radar cross section - and so its stealthiness - is hard to do.”

    Hardy adds that lack of strong information about the fighter --and the fact that it is going straight to export--might make it a hard sell on the international market.

    “One key point is that if the People's Liberation Army air forces aren’t going to field it, that might deter other countries," he said. "The thinking may go: if it's not good enough for China, why should we buy it?”

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/1...ane-from-people-army-ticketed-for-export.html
     
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    J 20 designer sacked for designing such a poor plane.

    China has dismiss the chief designer of J-20
    On the eve of the first public outing of the Chengdu J-20 stealth fighter, Chinese internet forums disclosed that the aircraft’s chief designer Yang Wei has been dismissed from his post.

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    No other details were revealed. Yang worked on the J-10 and JF-17 as well.
     
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