China to fund regional railway hub for Pakistan

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Indian language is only sanskrit.

hindi and urdu again are muslim language.which indians hate the most.

Note: in such cases by indian i usually mean only hindu(not even great people like buddhists)
madarsa or pak teaching ?
 

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@ gotti.

keep ur post short, no body has time to read ur big BS.



In Pakistan, all languages are in the Persian script and everyone reads, studies and learns each others languages if they reside in another province. They are also familiar with them, in general, because they are very closely linked, mutually intelligible and most Pakistanis have inter-marriages in other communities - thus, multilingual homes. Our television also plays a part in this and we don't have segregated, localized television shows.

BTW, Afghanistan banned Indian shows, and rightly so. This wasn't out of religion but because it was so stupid for them to have to see and they also stated that it is far removed from their culture.

Even the Americans couldn't place this in the serious section of the news when they tried translating the title of the news. The title was: "Because the mother in law, was once a Sister-in-law" What non-sense!

Furthermore, after American television shows, the most popularly watched shows in the world are Turkish shows that are even translated and subbed in their rival country, Greece. What's even more ironic is that the most watched drama in Pakistan, that broke all records of ratings was the Turkish, Ask-i-mamnu, which was dubbed into Urdu - so much for Urdu being an Indian language.




ur pakis can not even sing ur national anthem which is in persian. u r talking about people of all provinces learning each other language.

Afghanistan not taliban regime banned indian movies. afghan people still watch Indian films and songs



That non sense has more viewer in Pakistan than india, so pakis are non -sense people
 

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@ gotti.

keep ur post short, no body has time to read ur big BS.



In Pakistan, all languages are in the Persian script and everyone reads, studies and learns each others languages if they reside in another province. They are also familiar with them, in general, because they are very closely linked, mutually intelligible and most Pakistanis have inter-marriages in other communities - thus, multilingual homes. Our television also plays a part in this and we don't have segregated, localized television shows.

BTW, Afghanistan banned Indian shows, and rightly so. This wasn't out of religion but because it was so stupid for them to have to see and they also stated that it is far removed from their culture.

Even the Americans couldn't place this in the serious section of the news when they tried translating the title of the news. The title was: "Because the mother in law, was once a Sister-in-law" What non-sense!

Furthermore, after American television shows, the most popularly watched shows in the world are Turkish shows that are even translated and subbed in their rival country, Greece. What's even more ironic is that the most watched drama in Pakistan, that broke all records of ratings was the Turkish, Ask-i-mamnu, which was dubbed into Urdu - so much for Urdu being an Indian language.

ur pakis can not even sing ur national anthem which is in persian. u r talking about people of all provinces learning each other language.


Taliban regime banned Indian movies. afghan people still watch Indian films and songs



That non sense has more viewer in Pakistan than india, so pakis are non -sense people


is it same serial where mother and daughter loves the same man. if yes, sahi raste pe ho:pound::pound:
 
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@ gotti, on ur statement, little gift for u, khara saach, what ur urdu dubbed Turkish serial doing to ur pak watan


Furthermore, after American television shows, the most popularly watched shows in the world are Turkish shows that are even translated and subbed in their rival country, Greece. What's even more ironic is that the most watched drama in Pakistan, that broke all records of ratings was the Turkish, Ask-i-mamnu, which was dubbed into Urdu - so much for Urdu being an Indian language.



:pound::pound:
 
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you means terrorist ties:taunt::taunt:




Well, i dont know how to laugh or laugh on ur statement.

anyhow only difference is, in the last 65 yrs. Indian govt has pulled people out of poverty ,where as more people go under poverty level in pakistan.. check ur states urself:sad::sad:
We have one madrasa education pak member now u also come. Open ur eyes,come out of madrasa environment. if u see population to poverty ratio. 50% of ur population is under poverty level. literacy rate has fallen to 47%.

there are more biharis in punjab than bihar. But can u work in balouchistan and tribal areas???:taunt::taunt:. i have heard if u say u r Punjabi in balouchistan u will get 72 virgins straight away :taunt::taunt:


no foriegn tourist come to pakistan now. only tatto wale uzbek,raymond davis type come to pakistan



so come out of dream world of madrasa education
Boring and most of it was unintelligible troll-like comments that I can't possibly bother responding to.
 

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Urdu is a minority language in India and it is more identifiable with Pakistan than India in that it is intelligible by 75% of Pakistanis unlike in India where only 40% understand Urdu/Hindi.
Your conditional statement doesn't state the premises necessary to support its conclusion (in your case – Urdu is more identifiable with Pakistan) and even if you add those assertions it suffers from a number of other flaws.

History of the English language: In the 5th century AD three Germanic tribes, the Angles, the Saxons and the Jutes, crossed the North Sea and invaded Britain. At that time the inhabitants of Britain spoke a Celtic language but most of the Celtic speakers were pushed west and north by the invaders. The Angles came from "Englaland" [sic] and their language was called "Englisc" - from which the words "England" and "English" are derived.
History of Urdu: Urdu originated in Uttar Pradesh in India during 1200 AD and is based on Khariboli dialect of Delhi.

English originated in England and is spoken as first language by around 375 million.
225 million people in USA has English as their first language but it still doesn't change the fact that English originated in England.

In Pakistan, the best Urdu poet was a Pashtun by the name of Mr. Ahmed Faraz and a Hindkowan Punjabi by the name of Muneer Niazi. It is a language that goes beyond ethno-linguistic boundaries.
What's your point?

Conversely, Hindi is not understood by anyone in South India (except Muslims who speak Urdu)
All of your arguments are built on false premises and false conclusions, this itself make your arguments invalid. If one tries an objective approach and transgresses the contours of an argument can effectively put forward a valid argument.
( @Tolaha can make a better argument against your claim.)

In Bengal, Urdu is an official language only because of the Muslims, otherwise no one speaks Hindi there, either.
Urdu is an official language in Indian State of Bengal because of significant population of Indian Muslims living in state. If I recall correctly I was making an argument against you mocking an Afghan on how 40% of their ministers speak Urdu but 75% of Pakistani population also speak Urdu, an Indian language which originated in Uttar Pradesh and based on Khariboli dialect of Delhi.

You mocking Afghans only shows how frustrated Pakistanis are trying to vent all their frustration on others. There are resounding concerns ringing coherently in public of Pakistan, while governments have vehemently moved in favor of Defence spending hike, often neglecting the food supply or job security of its citizens.

With regular bomb blasts in major cities, sectarian violence against fellow Muslim's, economic doom, Drone Strikes and Taliban beheading of Soldiers who are considered Martian by Pakistani's has jolted the confidence of the common men who now for their daily dose of feel good factor and for some sense of superiority has to see elsewhere, in your case mocking Afghans.

Why don't you North Indians learn and speak their language? Why force it on them? Are you saying you're better than the South Indian Dravidians?
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BTW, Afghanistan banned Indian shows, and rightly so. This wasn't out of religion but because it was so stupid for them to have to see and they also stated that it is far removed from their culture.
Pakistani women love India's 'saas-bahu' sagas

Indian channels like Sony, STAR Plus and Colors are quite popular despite being banned in Pakistan, which means the local cable guy doesn't have permission to telecast them. The public has access to them only through Direct-To-Home (DTH) services.
"We record these serials and then telecast late at night. Hence the poor people get to watch their soaps. It's risky but this is what is happening. Everyone wants to watch these Indian soaps," said a local cable man on condition of anonymity.
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The soaps also leave many questions in their minds.
"Do you people dress like TV actors in real life?" asked a curious Kulsoom Nawaz, 55, for whom these soaps are the only window to Indian culture.
What's even more ironic is that the most watched drama in Pakistan, that broke all records of ratings was the Turkish, Ask-i-mamnu, which was dubbed into Urdu - so much for Urdu being an Indian language.
This argument of yours doesn't even make sense.
You seem more and more frustrated as I move on through your post. Turkish TV drama dubbed in Urdu was a hit in Pakistan because 75% of Pakistani's speak Urdu (which is an Indian language).

Greece and Spain, and other EU countries have also gone to the IMF. Taking out loans or aid is not something to be embarrassed about. India, till recently, took aid at a governmental level from Britain and has millions of NGOs working to improve the conditions of the poor.
India took aid on governmental level and has millions of NGO's, show me the proof or please apologize. :why::why:

Conversely, Pakistanis have EDHI, who won the Lenin award and many other local charitable institutions like by Imran Khan and other stars.
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When you compare this with India, you see a man living in a billion-dollar home across from a million people in the slums.
Orangi Town is Asia's biggest Slum:


also: Slum Rehabilitation Authority - Dharavi Redevelopment Project

That is a perfect example of "newly rich", where a worthless man is granted so much money that instead of being charitable or humble, he raises the most expensive home in the world, to rub it in the faces of the most poorest people in the world, residing in the slums of Mumbai.
Frustrated Paki :rofl:.

Indian tech tycoon Shiv Nadar sold 16.75 million shares, amounting to a 2.5% stake in his software outfit HCL Technologies, Thursday, raising an estimated $125 million. The money will go to the Shiv Nadar Foundation, his philanthropic arm, (Link)

Indian billionaire Azim Premji Friday donated shares worth 123 billion rupees ($2.3 billion) in Wipro to a philanthropic trust he controls, shortly after joining Bill Gates and Warren Buffett's Giving Pledge club.
This is his second major donation to charity. In 2010, Mr. Premji transferred 88.46 billion rupees ($1.6 billion) worth of shares he and his family held in Wipro to the trust.
The Azim Premji Foundation works mainly in rural India in partnership with state governments to help them improve the quality of education. It has also set up a university for the poor in the southern Indian state of Karnataka.
(Link)

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I think the pride in TATA cars do not serve the Indian psyche well because they are owned and manufactured by a "foreign" Persian, just like there are 200 million Mongolians living in your country alongside 5% British.
TATA is not "owned" by a foreign Persian. :lol:
66% of shares of TATA Group (with Revenue crossing $100 Billion, that's more than half the economy of Pakistan) are controlled by philanthropic trusts endowed by Tata family i.e., 66% of profit of TATA group goes to charity. :nod:
 
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I think there is a lot of pride to be had in being a Pakistani over an Indian who are perceived as frustrated perverts, sexually harassing and raping any piece of meat they can lay eyes on. Be it Swiss tourists (or tourists, in general) or local Indian girls, the sanctity of females is not safe, in India.
Frustration of being a citizen of a Failed State has built upon you and clearly showing in your statements. :pound:.
Pakistan is a nation of pervert people, it's a fact.In Pakistan rapes occur for anything you can think of, be it for revenge, hatred towards other religions and ethnicities, for pure lust, to show man's power and exert brutality over the poor women and girls. In Pornistan usually the victim is traumatized by the society not the offender who is seen as a hero by his fellow people. In bizarre countries like Pakistan courts require eyewitness verification from four Muslim men to prove rape. :frusty:
Most women in Pakistan are treated as chattels and dirt, to be trod on, spat upon and trashed verbally and physically," - Maheen Usami ( Pakistani journalist)

2,000 minorities girls converted to Islam forcibly: report
* 2,303 instances of sexual abuse reported from various parts of country
* Pakistan ranks second in global ranking with highest number of out-of-school children
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
No. 1 Nation in Sexy Web Searches? Call it Pornistan

They may call it the "Land of the Pure," but Pakistan turns out to be anything but.
The Muslim country, which has banned content on at least 17 websites to block offensive and blasphemous material, is the world's leader in online searches for pornographic material.
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Pakistan is top dog in searches per-person for "horse sex" since 2004, "donkey sex" since 2007, "rape pictures" between 2004 and 2009, "rape sex" since 2004, "child sex" between 2004 and 2007 and since 2009, "animal sex" since 2004 and "dog sex" since 2005, according to Google Trends and Google Insights, features of Google that generate data based on popular search terms.
The country also is tops -- or has been No. 1 -- in searches for "sex," "camel sex," "rape video," "child sex video" and some other searches that can't be printed here.


No. 1 Nation in Sexy Web Searches? Call it Pornistan | Fox News


On the sectarian violence, I am going to guess you are suggesting that what is happening in Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Bahrain, Iran, Saudi's Qatif province is all Pakistan's fault.
"you are suggesting" – assuming things again ?

Sectarian Violence in Pakistan: 1989-2013



Sectarian Violence in Pakistan
 

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Gotti's logic:
P(Urdu is more identifiable with Pakistan | Urdu is an Indian language) = P(ratings of Turkish serial dubbed in Urdu in Pakistan)
(where P(A|M) = Probability of A given M)

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Proud Pakistanis, what are they proud of ? :hmm:

1. Musharraf lying though his ass and making a fool out of common Pakistani:

Paksat-I
In December 2002, Pakistan acquired a satellite from the American satellite-building firm Hughes Global Systems (HGS) at a cost of around five million dollars.
HGS had designed a satellite for Indonesia, but after a battery problem occurred making it useless during certain hours of the day, it was sold to Pakistan as Paksat-1.
Later, General Pervez Musharraf would claim that "Pakistan's space programme is now ahead of India after the formal launching of Paksat-I and this is due to the hard work of our scientists."

Lagging behind: 2040 – Pakistan's space od[d]yssey – The Express Tribune
2. Water Car:

3. First "Made in Pakistan Gyrocopter, oops Helicopter:


"Pakistan made helicopter" is actually a Gyrocopter kit which has been imported straight from the USA:pound:. And just imagine, Groper Gilli who was their Prime Minister, went to personally watch this demonstration of the so-called fake "helicopter" taking off.
4. Tallest building in the world to come up in Karachi:



Or is it Drone Attacks, beheading of Pakistani (Martian) Soldiers by Talibanis, USA raiding Abottabad and killing OBL thus establishing superiority of Pakistani Airforce, higher than the pole and deeper than the hole friendship with PRC, load-shedding, begging IMF/World Bank for bailout and America for aid, etc., :notsure:
 
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Conversely, Hindi is not understood by anyone in South India (except Muslims who speak Urdu) and neither are they fond of the Hindi movie industry called Bollywood. Same is the case in North East where they would rather watch Korean movies and have also banned Bollywood.
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Selaam biraderam, chitor aasti?

If you are an Afghan, then, let me be the first one to apologize for Pakistan ignoring the Panjshiris, Farsiwan, Hazaras, and using colonial methods of only supporting the majority like it did in its own country with Pakistan where it supported the Punjabis (who turn out to be only 30-40% in number after the Seraikis lost the Punjabi label. If we remove Hindkowans, Pothwaris and Kashmiris, then the numbers go even lower than the original 60% we were told, the "majority" Punjabis were).

You see, the British colonial philosophy was to support the minorities of a country to maintain relations with it and India continued this philosophy in Sri Lanka and Afghanistan (including India, itself, where only a minority of Hindi-speaking, North Indians rule the country - How did that turn out everywhere, including India? You can see, for yourself).

However, recently, Pakistanis met with the Afghan government and addressed their concerns. The Hazara, Tajik and Uzbeks were communicated with and mistakes of the past had been rectified. No "community" can be supported as Afghanistan is one nation-state and all political parties in their manifestos for the coming election have stated that they do not believe that Pakistan should interfere in internal affairs of Afghanistan, like in the past.

With that said, the only road China made was Karakoram highway in the Northern areas that it had made for it's own transportation. As far as the Railways and other factors that you mentioned are concerned, then you have to understand that Pakistan was not a developed part of British India and whatever development we had to do, we did ourselves, because during partition, the Indians did not give us our fair share, out of bigotry and hate.

We built Islamabad from the ground up and our bureaucracy didn't even have paper supplies so branches from trees were used as pins and pens. This is a very important and dramatic part of our history. Conversely, India had it's entire country, left by the British, as is. What you see now, was developed by them and since then, their capital, Delhi, has had absolutely no new upgrades as it stayed just like it was given to them since 1947.

Like our ancestors built the Taj and Char Minar, we built one of the biggest Mosques in Pakistan with Turkish and Saudi collaboration.

Despite the claims of Modi's Gujarat, there is absolutely no development in Surat, a major port there and even other parts that border China have absolutely no comparison to what China has achieved in its infrastructure.

Afghanistan also had nothing and till date, it's only achievement is the Kabul Palace.

We are a new nation and starting to develop but due to our dark ages under Bhutto, we have suffered a lot. Bhutto was the one who supported Hikmatyar and distanced us from East Pakistanis so much that they ended up making Bangladesh.

Prior to the Bhutto-era, when Ayub Khan, an ethnic Pashtun was in power, Pakistan was known as the Asian Tiger under Ayub and even Seoul, South Korea was made in Karachi's impression.

I mentioned his ethnicity because Farsiwan Afghans believe Pashtuns have some issue with them but they don't. Most, normal and every day Pashtuns are peace-loving and do not have clever designs at taking over the world or even Afghanistan - the problem was with Bhutto who tried to play religious and ethnic politics in a neighboring country.

His ideological son, Zardari, who is now, illegally in power, has sent us back 50 years and destroyed every last thing we had achieved in the 2000's. He is playing ethnic politics in Pakistan, including Karachi, just like Bhutto, where you see countless murders everyday including those associated with religion (but that is much deeper because the conflicts involving Shiites are taking place all over the Middle East and what we see happening in Pakistan is an extension of that).

Lastly, if you're an Indian Muslim and have a poster of Ahmad Shah Masood because it is acceptable to the Indians, then I sympathize with you because I understand the mood in India when it comes to those who they look at with suspicion and through xenophobia.

Like in America where Obama won, one day, civil rights will also have a victory in India and people like Salman Khurshid and Simranjeet Singh Mann will not be rebuked for speaking for the rights of their respective communities.
Okay great. Now please leave us alone.
 
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( @Tolaha can make a better argument against your claim.)
Thanks for the mention @appolyon. But no arguments from my side for now. Did you see the size of @gotti 's posts? I'd rather not respond as I've got better things to do than fix up the views of those who are clueless!

Virgin minds shouldn't be probed into! :nono: Let them live in bliss with their virginity.
 
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now?you were left alone for the past decade

welcome us to in into your country or our orphan state next year once again after a long tie
right now its the pakistan who is looks like orphanage. apart from china nobody seems to care
 

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No more trolling or off topic posts here. If not heeded, the thread will be closed and bans issued.
Discuss the railway project or boot out.
 

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