China To Develop New Carrier-Based Fighters To Replace J-15 Aircraft after numerous accidents

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  1. J20!

    J20! Senior Member Senior Member

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    Pretty much sums up what you know about the subject at hand.

    There were both technical and political reasons for the Soviet Navy selecting the flanker over the Mig 29K.

    Both Andrei Comin's A Flanker Story and Yefim Gordon's SU 27 agree that the SU33 has a shorter take off distance and lower landing speed than the legacy Mig 29K. The Flanker has a SMALLER deck footprint than the Mig 29K(The metric here being folded wingspan, not length).

    Either way, I believe no one here would try to argue that a Mig 29 is superior to the Flanker airframe. Once their both in the air, the Flanker has a better wing loading, higher operating ceiling, higher top speed, better maneuverability etc.

    If the Mig 29K was that much more capable than even the legacy SU33, then why would the Russian Navy have produced more a2g deck based sorties via their legacy SU33's than they did with their Mig 29K's.

    Vikramaditya doesn't have the deck space for high tempo flanker operations, plain and simple. The Russians couldn't have offered a modernized SU33 for Ex Gorshkov to the IN. The Kuznetsov does, as ive pointed out ad infinitum. Even operating the Mig, Vikramaditya cannot use both launch positions without halting operations of 1 of her 2 elevators.

    Arguments to the contrary are the usual nationalistic leanings popular with Indians on the Chinese sub-forum.
     
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  2. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    J 15 is a shit. It can not carry more than few air to air missiles while flying from carrier. Like many other weapons of china, this is one more shit.
     
  4. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    That and the fact is has a 25% crash rate. China effectively has no carrier aviation now.
     
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    No carriers too. What they have is Russian rust bucket and follow on copy with virtually all the drawbacks of russian carrier. While Indian carrier iac1 even though smaller in size will be potent with western systems and powerful fighter planes most likely rafales....
     
  6. Pinky Chaudhary

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    They have gone to FUNERAL procession of J-15 and its pilot.....:rofl::rofl:
     
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