China Tests Midcourse Missile Interception

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maybe China wants to sell it to pakistan and north korea too, I bet we are looking at the first stage of the retaliation to selling weapon to Taiwan
 
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well, guy, the mission might be a mid-course interception in space..... if so, it is competely different from the “adterminal interception" of Russia, India ,Israel and Japan.

however, I have to wait for more details.

in fact, CHinese would not make a fuss for a “adterminal interception"

in fact, CHinese managed "adterminal interception" in 1970s with FJ-1 anti-missle systems even during the rule of Mao.

CHinese FJ-1 anti-missle system,which were developed in 1960s-1970s. it could hold up missles with nuke warheads.

Terminal phase interception requires a quicker reaction time and radar which does not have to be a higher band. Since Chinese are claiming they have achieved mid course interception
my questions are:
1) what radar are they using to detect the launch which could possibly be from thousands of KM's away??
2) Do Chinese have X-band radar capability??
3)is the system setup to work with satellites??
4) since it is mid course interception heavier and larger missiles would be required for interception and fly further out there is a chance these anti-missiles could be intercepted??
5)what missile was tested against the system??
6)one test is enough to claim success??
7)has China developed space based sensors needed for interception??
8)is this based on Russian A-35 or A-135 system??
 
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maybe China wants to sell it to pakistan and north korea too, I bet we are looking at the first stage of the retaliation to selling weapon to Taiwan
what good would it do selling it to Pakistan when it is designed for ICBM'S? If it was sold to Pakistan a good chance that USA will get their hands on it, and anyway it is useless against decoys,MIRV'S and a missile salvo attack, selling a defensive weapon is a good counter against the offensive weapons USA plans to sell Taiwan??
 
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India,Israel ,Japan ?
India

South Asia Monitor: A Perspective on the Region


The DRDO has also declared intentions to attempt mid-course interception
. An ambitious goal considering that even the U.S. is struggling for years on mid-course technologies. While preparing for the laurels of another 'successful' interception, the agency should spare a thought for the monetary resources and time spent on undelivered projects of the IGMDP, especially when the AAD would gobble hundreds of crores for achieving a technological capability on which DRDO has already expended a fortune


Israel

http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Ballistic_missile_defense

http://patriotmissive.com/2008/09/american-support-of-israel-x-band-radar-to-the-rescue/

http://closingvelocity.typepad.com/closing_velocity/thaad/


Japan

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-167751.html

SM-3 is being developed as part of MDA's sea-based Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense system. The missiles are deployed on U.S. Aegis cruisers and destroyers and Japanese destroyers to defend against short- to intermediate-range ballistic missile threats in the ascent and midcourse phases of flight.
 

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India,Israel ,Japan ?
Not only those but France as well. What China has is a new HQ-9 missile shooting down Scud class SRBMs.
 

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Not only those but France as well. What China has is a new HQ-9 missile shooting down Scud class SRBMs.
obviously ,you can not tell the difference between NMD and TMD

it is a space interception.

in fact, only USA and CHina now has carried out such tests.
 

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USA,Russia,India,Israel have all done this and Japan is also in the process or may have also done this.
In fact, the information i got from Chinese report is that, only US and Japan have done similar test before.
I am not an expert on this, it is just for reference.
 

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6)one test is enough to claim success??
You should read the report properly before post this.

The report is about the test, not the system. And the report doesn't even claim the test is a success. It says "The test has achieved the expected objective."

Any problem with that?
 

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obviously ,you can not tell the difference between NMD and TMD

it is a space interception.

in fact, only USA and CHina now has carried out such tests.
Then show us the video. :stinker:
 

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Then show us the video. :stinker:
I think you are right, the propaganda bureau must be doing its job. One needs to be wise enough to see this through. China is far behind, should focus on developing more, hopefully we can see AC, big plane and J-xx to come out in 2012
 

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I think you are right, the propaganda bureau must be doing its job. One needs to be wise enough to see this through. China is far behind, should focus on developing more, hopefully we can see AC, big plane and J-xx to come out in 2012
Exactly right, if China has something to show off, they will make a video or release pictures for something.
 

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Exactly right, if China has something to show off, they will make a video or release pictures for something.
maybe this can solve the problem

"We did not receive prior notification of the launch," Maj. Maureen Schumann, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said. "We detected two geographically separated missile launch events with an exo-atmospheric collision also being observed by space-based sensors. We are requesting information from China regarding the purpose for conducting this interception as well as China's intentions and plans to pursue future types of intercepts."

link:China says missile defense system test successful - Yahoo! News
 

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maybe this can solve the problem

"We did not receive prior notification of the launch," Maj. Maureen Schumann, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said. "We detected two geographically separated missile launch events with an exo-atmospheric collision also being observed by space-based sensors. We are requesting information from China regarding the purpose for conducting this interception as well as China's intentions and plans to pursue future types of intercepts."

link:China says missile defense system test successful - Yahoo! News
A ballistic missile intercepting a ballistic missile. That is the only thing with the speed they have to get up that high. Quite similiar to the preprogrammed launch against the satellite. This must have been planned for a better part of year since it coincides with the PAC-3 sales to Taiwan.
 

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A ballistic missile intercepting a ballistic missile. That is the only thing with the speed they have to get up that high. Quite similiar to the preprogrammed launch against the satellite. This must have been planned for a better part of year since it coincides with the PAC-3 sales to Taiwan.
in fact ,it is a further development of ASAT,technically speaking.
 

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I agree completely, same tech base. It also doesn't hold much hope for an operational clearence.
frankly speaking, there is no mature NMD tech in the world at all.

Even USA has no such a mature tech.

for time being, such a space interception tech can not hold up nuke attack from Russia and USA,but it might hold up the limited nuke attack from Iran,N.korea...and India.

Besides it also proves that CHina has narrowed the sino-USA gap and left others except USA behind.....
 

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frankly speaking, there is no mature NMD tech in the world at all.

Even USA has no such a mature tech.

for time being, such a space interception tech can not hold up nuke attack from Russia and USA,but it might hold up the limited nuke attack from Iran,N.korea...and India.

Besides it also proves that CHina has narrowed the sino-USA gap and left others except USA behind.....
How can it intercept anything in war conditions when it is a preprogrammed launch planned forever and a day? You have two ballistic missiles flying into each other. You know the expected flight path of each. Given todays supercomputers it isn't a great feat to calculate that. When you add all the unknown variables of a real intercept, you are going to have to have an agile and sophisticated kill vehicle, not a ground programmed ballistic missile.
 

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How can it intercept anything in war conditions when it is a preprogrammed launch planned forever and a day? You have two ballistic missiles flying into each other. You know the expected flight path of each. Given todays supercomputers it isn't a great feat to calculate that. When you add all the unknown variables of a real intercept, you are going to have to have an agile and sophisticated kill vehicle, not a ground programmed ballistic missile.


We do not know yet how the details yet but from the ASAT test in 2007, we may know CHina has sophisticated kill vehicles


But anyway, can anyone guarantee the americans are not doing the ground programmed ballistic missile test?
 

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