China, Taiwan protest fatal shooting of fisherman by Philippines

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This is the fault of Mainland China. Its policy of territorial bullying is causing its smaller neighbors especially those directly affected to be edgy. Unfortunately in this case some poor Taiwanese fisherman is the victim. The more China pushes the Philippines and Vietnam to the wall the more these smaller countries will become insecure and defensive. So we should expect more of these kind of incidents.
Oh, really?

You lost a contest with mainland China, then you blamed it on innocent and harmless fishmen and killed him.

And you plan to kill more?

No wonder both mainland and Taiwan are sending warships there.

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haha please do so the world will see it as overkill a bully ganging up on a weak smaller country
 

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We all know how the Chinese is using fishing boats as pawns in its dangerous game of territorial grabs in Asia. Send in some fishing boats and later on announce a claim because Chinese fishing boats are fishing there. Inevitably, someone in these fishing boats will get hurt. Unfortunately, a Taiwanese is a victim this time.

BTW, don't try to muddle the issue, the Filipinos are edgy because of the continued violations of its sovereignty by Chinese naval forces. It's not the other way around.
 
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Lets face it china and all chinese majority countries (expect Singapore who has nothing to do this) are troublemakers
This is because people in west who are quite idiot in history have allowed them to do so.

han chinese have been biggest land grabber in history.

their state was confined to a rump in shansi and shaanxi but it now comprises indianized areas of turkestan and tibet.

the whole thai and burmese people were driven out of china from the south china area and now the hans have occupied it.

they occupied vietnam for 1000 years and could have sinicized it but the gallant viets and indianized chams routed their dragon gradually.

this century would decide if hans after sleeping for 100 years can grab lands further.
 

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@ T co

There is a chinese proverb ( i have confirmed it as genuine ) which says that

" if fire breaks out in a barn the fish of the pond too feels the heat "

chinese are not fish in the pond so please advise CCP to tread carefully.
 

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@ T co

There is a chinese proverb ( i have confirmed it as genuine ) which says that

" if fire breaks out in a barn the fish of the pond too feels the heat "

chinese are not fish in the pond so please advise CCP to tread carefully.
Ya, I can guess which Chinese proverb u refer to, but the translation is completely wrong.

Lost in the translation??

Alright, back to the brutal murder by the Philippines, let's be rational. When Sri Lanka navy drove way Tamil trawlers, they used water cannons at most. It's shocking PHL Coast Guard shot with machine guns at a tiny boat, on China's EEZ (however disputed)!! It was utterly disproportionate.

This thread is about a killing in cold blood. BBC News - Taiwan ultimatum to Philippines over fisherman's death
 

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Ya, I can guess which Chinese proverb u refer to, but the translation is completely wrong.

Lost in the translation??

Alright, back to the brutal murder by the Philippines, let's be rational. When Sri Lanka navy drove way Tamil trawlers, they used water cannons at most. It's shocking PHL Coast Guard shot with machine guns at a tiny boat, on China's EEZ (however disputed)!! It was utterly disproportionate.

This thread is about a killing in cold blood. BBC News - Taiwan ultimatum to Philippines over fisherman's death
52 bullet holes. That's 52 actual impacts. Remember, this is a machine gun mounted on an unstable ship deck being fired over a substantial stretch of open water. Each bullet that hit probably represents many, many more missed shots. If those were the byproduct of warning shots, as some DFIers have suggested, and lets say 10% of the warning shots hit the craft, that's 520 rounds fired - or nearly 40 seconds of continuous firing from a standard 12.7mm HMG. Even if those were aimed shots and the gunner achieved 30-50% accuracy (unlikely - you try firing a 50 cal from one wave-tossed boat to another over a hundred meters of water) that's still nearly twenty seconds of continuous firing.

No, this was no shoot-to-warn or shoot-to-stop. This was a case of shooting to kill. If nothing else, the PCG should cashier the officer of the coast guard craft for giving an illegal order to sink another craft when that craft was nowhere near the territorial waters (not EEZ) of the Phillippines. This is a gross breach of military/law-enforcement discipline, and paints the PCG as not only heartless, but heartless amateurs as well - most definitely not the impression Manila wishes to convey, especially in this time of rising tensions.
 

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Oh please investigation is still on the way cold blood you try to ram a boat haft your size so please the chinese Imperials here are just adding fuel to the fire its 80 miles near to a Philippine Province 80 miles its not an EZZ anymore its Philippine waters and your people has the nerved to demonized my country oh please cry me a river your caught stealing we ask you stop and be inspected instead you try to ram us please tell is that a smart move? Sure the vessel is fishing vessel but a hostile act is still an hostile act regardless if your armed or not you people are just claim and claim naturally this would happen
 

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haha please do so the world will see it as overkill a bully ganging up on a weak smaller country
South Asian countries need to collaborate with each other against the 21st century fascist Chinese regime... Let all forget their difference and stand against that coward...
 

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Oh please investigation is still on the way cold blood you try to ram a boat haft your size so please the chinese Imperials here are just adding fuel to the fire its 80 miles near to a Philippine Province 80 miles its not an EZZ anymore its Philippine waters and your people has the nerved to demonized my country oh please cry me a river your caught stealing we ask you stop and be inspected instead you try to ram us please tell is that a smart move? Sure the vessel is fishing vessel but a hostile act is still an hostile act regardless if your armed or not you people are just claim and claim naturally this would happen
Yes, the investigation is still on its way, then how can you be so sure that the fisherman tried to ram your boat? You are just another liar.

We were fishing within Chinese EEZ, not in Philippine waters.

Your heavily armed vessel opened fire on a civilian fishing boat for no good course and without giving any warning, and then chased the boat for another hour, during the process you were still shooting at the boat. This is no self defense, but blatant act of war.

I heard that Chinese navy are there to find that Philippine vessel and take it back for justice.

The 72 hours deadline is approaching, an innocent man cant die for nothing, you are gonna pay a price. It is still too soon to say who is crying whom a river.

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Alright, back to the brutal murder by the Philippines, let's be rational. When Sri Lanka navy drove way Tamil trawlers, they used water cannons at most. It's shocking PHL Coast Guard shot with machine guns at a tiny boat, on China's EEZ (however disputed)!! It was utterly disproportionate.
They shoot to kill.

85 fishermen killed by Sri Lanka in 10 years: Govt

The government on Friday submitted in the Madurai bench of the Madras high court that there had been 167 incidents of shooting on Indian fishermen by the Sri Lankan navy between the years 1991 and 2011. As many as 85 fishermen had been killed and 180 injured in these incidents which took place within the Indian waters.

85 fishermen killed by Sri Lanka in 10 years: Govt - Times Of India
 

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Limit benchmark for each type of maritime Boundaries

 

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Yes, the investigation is still on its way, then how can you be so sure that the fisherman tried to ram your boat? You are just another liar.

We were fishing within Chinese EEZ, not in Philippine waters.

Your heavily armed vessel opened fire on a civilian fishing boat for no good course and without giving any warning, and then chased the boat for another hour, during the process you were still shooting at the boat. This is no self defense, but blatant act of war.

I heard that Chinese navy are there to find that Philippine vessel and take it back for justice.

The 72 hours deadline is approaching, an innocent man cant die for nothing, you are gonna pay a price. It is still too soon to say who is crying whom a river.

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O yes they were in Philippine waters. Looking at the big picture..and without all the BS lies from Xinhua..,they intruded, they were apprehended, they resisted, and they were met with force ! The story is as simple as that!

you heard that the Chinese navy is coming for the PH CG ship?? you hear a lot of BS from china news that's why
 

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What's the use of super duper power status if its citizens cannot be protected? Think abt what Israel or America would have done in the same shoes?

Taiwan beefs up patrols in waters near Philippines

Taiwan Sunday dispatched four coastguard and naval vessels to beef up patrols in waters near the Philippines following public outrage over the shooting of a Taiwanese fisherman by Filipino coastguards.

"The government is determined to protect our fishermen," cabinet spokeswoman Cheng Li-wen said in a statement as a Lafayette-class naval frigate and coastguard vessels set sail for the area where the 65-year-old Taiwanese fisherman was killed Thursday.
The move came shortly after authorities issued a strongly-worded statement late Saturday night demanding Manila apologise to Taiwan and compensate the family of the dead man.

In its statement, Taiwan also asked the Philippine authorities to bring to justice the coastguards responsible and start negotiating with Taipei on a proposed fishery agreement.

"If the Filipino government fails to respond in a positive manner within 72 hours, the hiring of Philippine workers will be frozen," presidential office spokeswoman Lee Chia-fei warned.
Taiwan frigates sailing out of Kaohsiung


 

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Philippines - The Philippine Navy (PN) will continue to monitor the country's territorial waters in Batanes despite Taiwan's declaration that it will launch for the first time a naval drill near the area if Manila will not officially apologize for the killing of one of its fishermen by Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) personnel last week.Navy spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Gregory Gerald Fabic said.From the Naval Station in the northernmost island province, the Navy will be keeping an eye on the Taiwanese naval activities
Phl Navy to closely monitor Batanes waters amid Taiwan threat | Headlines, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com
On another news, Taiwan said it will not accept Philippine apology if it is based on the one china policy. Taiwan also said it is not open to enhanced patrol cooperation with the mainland
 
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