China slams Philippine bid to "legalize" occupation of islands

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BEIJING (Reuters) - China accused the Philippines on Friday of trying to legalize its occupation of islands in the disputed South China Sea, repeating that Beijing would never agree to international arbitration.
Frustrated with the slow pace of regional diplomacy, the Philippines in January angered China by asking a U.N. tribunal to order a halt to Beijing's activities that it said violated Philippine sovereignty over the islands, surrounded by potentially energy-rich waters.
Claims by an increasingly powerful China over most of the South China Sea have set it directly against U.S. allies Vietnam and the Philippines. Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia also claim parts of the waters and China has a separate dispute with Japan in the East China Sea.
Manila said on Thursday that a U.N. arbitration court had set up the tribunal which would hear Manila's complaint, but China said this was an attempt to steal Chinese territory.
"The Philippine side is trying to use this to negate China's territorial sovereignty and attach a veneer of 'legality' to its illegal occupation of Chinese islands and reefs," the Foreign Ministry said in a statement on its website (欢迎访问中华人民共和国外交部网站).
The Philippines must immediately withdraw personnel and facilities from the islands, the ministry added, listing those which it said Manila was occupying.
Manila asked the tribunal of the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) to order a halt to China's activities.
But the convention did not apply in this case as what the Philippines was actually asking for was a decision on sovereignty, the ministry said.
"China's refusal to accept the Philippines' request for arbitration has full grounding in international law," it said.
China had always believed that the two countries should resolve their dispute through direct talks, the ministry added.
Southeast Asian nations stepped up efforts on Thursday to engage China in talks to resolve maritime tensions, agreeing to meet to try to reach common ground on disputed waters ahead of planned discussions in Beijing later this year.
Efforts by the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) to craft a code of conduct to manage South China Sea tensions all but collapsed last year at a summit chaired by Cambodia, a close economic ally of China, when the group failed to issue a closing statement for the first time.
(Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Nick Macfie)

China slams Philippine bid to "legalize" occupation of islands


Philipinese maid, you are the next. Ask your papa to save you.

BTW,this report didn't mention the most important part: China ask Philipinese move out all the men and equipments on 8 islands.

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/305824/news/nation/palace-rejects-china-call-to-withdraw-from-disputed-area-in-west-phl-sea


Palace rejects China call to withdraw from disputed area in West PHL Sea
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Malacañang on Saturday rejected a call by China to withdraw Philippine nationals and facilities from disputed areas in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said while the Philippines awaits the ruling of an international tribunal on the matter, it will exercise its sovereignty over the area.

"Yan ay atin and we will continue to exercise sovereignty over our territory," she said on government-run dzRB radio.

On Thursday, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea (ITLOS) appointed three more members of the five-member United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea Arbitral Tribunal on the claim filed by the Philippines against China on the West Philippine Sea.

These include:
Rüdiger Wolfrum (Germany)
Stanislaw Pawlak (Poland)
Jean-Pierre Cot (France)
Chris Pinto (Sri Lanka)
Alfred Soons (The Netherlands).


China rejection

However, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying said China already rejected the arbitration proceedings, adding that China's position on the issue "will not change."

Hua also accused the Philippines of violating the United Nations charter by "illegally" occupying some islands and reefs of Nansha (Spratly) Islands, including Mahuan Dao, Feixin Dao, Zhongye Dao, Nanyao Dao, Beizi Dao, Xiyue Dao, Shuanghuang Shazhou and Siling Jiao.

"Firmly and consistently opposed to the illegal occupation by the Philippines, China hereby solemnly reiterates its demand that the Philippines withdraw all its nationals and facilities from China's islands and reefs," Hao said.

Hao also claimed that the Philippines was trying to "deny China's territorial sovereignty and clothes its illegal occupation of China's islands and reefs with a cloak of 'legality.'"

Hao also branded the Philippines' bid to seek a so-called "durable solution" as "absolutely unacceptable to China."

Hao also maintained China will pursue bilateral negotiations and consultations with the Philippines to resolve relevant disputes.

Frustrated with the slow pace of regional diplomacy, the Philippines in January angered China by asking a UN tribunal to order a halt to Beijing's activities that it said violated Philippine sovereignty over the islands, surrounded by potentially energy-rich waters, a Reuters report said on Friday.

The Philippines calls parts of South China Sea as West Philippine Sea.

Claims by an increasingly powerful China over most of the South China Sea have set it directly against US allies Vietnam and the Philippines. Brunei, Taiwan and Malaysia also claim parts of the waters and China has a separate dispute with Japan in the East China Sea. - VVP, GMA News
 
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"Powerful" PLA Capabilities

Even while the PLA pursues gradual modernization of elite, mobile segments of the armed forces, experts assess PLA capabilities as limited today, so that it would
have difficulty militarily enforcing its many maritime claims. In 1996, the Center for Naval Analysis assessed the prospects of the PLA Navy (PLAN) becoming a "bluewater" navy compared to a "green water," or regional, navy. It could choose to reverse-engineer a regional navy, but such a process would take more than 15 years (perhaps by 2020). If China enjoys an optimistic economic growth rate of 8 percent per year for 15 years and it purchases naval assets from abroad, it could buy a "green water" navy, but not a "blue water" one. Thus, American and regional observers are watchful of a longer-term PLAN strategy of first developing "green water" capabilities out to the "first island chain" early in the 21st century – which somenbelieve could have implications for the PRC's ability to pursue maritime claims in the region – then achieving "blue water" status further out to the "second island chain" perhaps by the middle of the century.97 According to an expert on the PLAN, its maritime ambition is one of "sea denial" – the ability to achieve regional objectives while denying an adversary the use of a discrete maritime area – rather than "sea control," the ability to command a discrete ocean area.

One U.S. Navy analyst has noted that even within the region, the PLAN's capabilities are below those of the navies of Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan.
The PRC has focused its steady military modernization on about 10 percent of its military forces.

Aside from limited advanced hardware, experts have pointed to shortcomings in PLA training and personnel, including scripted war games, poor logistics, inadequate
maintenance, rigid command, and lack of combined arms and joint operations. Although fleet exercises are conducted several times a year, "there is little integration
between naval air and surface units, and even less integration of naval operations with units of either the PLA Air Force or Army.


PLA Assertiveness and Confrontations


Even as the PLA has struggled with limited capabilities, it nonetheless has increasingly asserted Beijing's perceived sovereign rights and territorial claims around
a Sinocentric "periphery," contributing to the air and maritime confrontations with regional neighbors and the United States.

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" One U.S. Navy analyst has noted that even within the region, the PLAN's capabilities are below those of the navies of Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan."

Golden words.
 

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touche :wave:
 

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The Form and Scope of Any New U.S. Military Support Program. The Philippines' main motive for seeking U.S. aid was its confrontation with China in the
disputed South China Sea. In 1995, China, which claims the entire South China Sea basin, occupied Mischief Reef in the Philippine-claimed area of the Spratly Islands. Since then, the Philippine navy has confronted the Chinese when it appeared that China was seeking to expand its positions in the disputed area. Incidents have occurred in which the Philippine navy has fired warning shots and has rammed Chinese vessels. The Philippine government thus has sought U.S. assistance to strengthen AFP naval and air capabilities in the South China Sea.

Several types of U.S. weapons would be important in building up AFP capabilities to perform such missions: surveillance, strike, and transport aircraft; fast attack patrol naval craft; frigates armed with surface to surface and surface to air missiles; amphibious landing craft; and long range troop carrying helicopters. Such a force would not necessarily have to be large, given the limited number of islands and atolls in dispute and limits on China's ability to deploy military forces hundreds of miles from the Chinese mainland. Nevertheless, it would have to be well armed, well trained, with an effective logistics component.

Statements regarding the defense commitment and U.S. military activities in or near the South China Sea also appear aimed at deterring Chinese aggressiveness. The first U.S.-Philippine military exercise after Philippine ratification of the VFA took place on Palawan, a main Philippine island near the disputed area in the Spratlys.
 

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The Form and Scope of Any New U.S. Military Support Program. The Philippines' main motive for seeking U.S. aid was its confrontation with China in the
disputed South China Sea. In 1995, China, which claims the entire South China Sea basin, occupied Mischief Reef in the Philippine-claimed area of the Spratly Islands. Since then, the Philippine navy has confronted the Chinese when it appeared that China was seeking to expand its positions in the disputed area. Incidents have occurred in which the Philippine navy has fired warning shots and has rammed Chinese vessels. The Philippine government thus has sought U.S. assistance to strengthen AFP naval and air capabilities in the South China Sea.

Several types of U.S. weapons would be important in building up AFP capabilities to perform such missions: surveillance, strike, and transport aircraft; fast attack patrol naval craft; frigates armed with surface to surface and surface to air missiles; amphibious landing craft; and long range troop carrying helicopters. Such a force would not necessarily have to be large, given the limited number of islands and atolls in dispute and limits on China's ability to deploy military forces hundreds of miles from the Chinese mainland. Nevertheless, it would have to be well armed, well trained, with an effective logistics component.

Statements regarding the defense commitment and U.S. military activities in or near the South China Sea also appear aimed at deterring Chinese aggressiveness. The first U.S.-Philippine military exercise after Philippine ratification of the VFA took place on Palawan, a main Philippine island near the disputed area in the Spratlys.
We took an island from them last year. US did nothing to save their phillipinese maid.
This year, we want more.
 
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Man this guys just proves you ch#ko stink ball are racist f@cks i can't wait until our new equipment arrives i mean we been in and out of panatag shoal because your pirates does know the waters they are taking stupid imperial cheap copiers
 

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We took an island from them last year. US did nothing to save their phillipinese maid.
This year, we want more.
If there were no maid from Philippines and Indonesia, Hong Kong would go under!

They are there to help their families back home, unlike the Chinese money grubbers who leave their aged parents and children in the village and then commit suicide living in unbelievable horrid conditions in towns and require the Govt to order them to visit their parents at least once a year!!

What people Chinese are that they require the Govt to tell them to fulfill their social duties!!

Totally self centred and money grubbing!
 
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We will how those countries to defeat PLAN and save theirselves.
Indeed.

Like what you are showing Japan?
 

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What do you mean? I don't get it?
Must keep yourself abreast with world events and you will know.
 

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Let it go dude this people are idiots they have no common sense common decency well pretty much everything otherwise this conflict would never happen i mean claiming a whole sea that your country mythical rule in the past thinking you sound decent is just playing stupid and ridiculous lets just make fun of them for their idiocy and their delusions of grandeur
 

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@Zero_Wing
This will be an interesting read for you.
defenceforumindia.com/forum/china/50610-xis-war-drums.html#post724012
 
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What events?
Man,.you are that brainwashed?

You know nothing of the world beyond what you Party tells you?
 

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Man,.you are that brainwashed?

You know nothing of the world beyond what you Party tells you?
AS i already mentioned PAK has madrasa..PRC has CMC
 
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