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exactly i am in favor of giving nukes and missiles to Japan and SK, Plus we can build nuke boomer class submarine for mutual benefit. What do you say?
Now why will SK and Japan exchange US nuclear umbrella for Indian nukes?
Typical indian jingoism.

They wont feel secure about the Indian boomers who are still are sea trials either. muhahahahahah

You troll good , son. Keep it up.
 

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Now why will SK and Japan exchange US nuclear umbrella for Indian nukes?
Typical indian jingoism.

They wont feel secure about the Indian boomers who are still are sea trials either. muhahahahahah

You troll good , son. Keep it up.
There would be no exchange.

Only accretion!

Higher density, in simple terms!
 

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Sure buddy!! I would request GOI to give information about Indian strategic offerings along with military blueprints of attack formations next time we think of making any alliances. Will that suffice or you would like the entire discussion transcript along with the mind-reading signals of the leaders as well? Let me know. Will be happy to add that to the list to get from GOI to be sent to you.. BTW, please send in your co-ordinates so that GOI can mail you the entire information.
Only fools will need GOI for these!
Anyone with a brain would what Japanese need:

1. Weapons--from fighter to radar
2. A strong navy in western Pacific
3. A super political power to support

India can't offer any of them, simple as that.
 

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There would be no exchange.

Only accretion!

Higher density, in simple terms!
No one need a second umbrella in the rain especially when the second umbrella looks so small.

And if USA can't help Japan, no one would believe that India can.

Of course they won't reject it if India gives for free. But GOI is not that stupid.
 

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There would be no exchange.

Only accretion!

Higher density, in simple terms!
You are so naive, and only thinking one sided. Why Japan and S Korea willing to give India a leveraging token when they don't have to, they already have the strongest umbrella, why pay unnessissary price? You think only you are smart, and everybody else is stupid?
 

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150 warheads - then assume an average 50-75kt yield (if the total weapon-ready fissile material output of India's nuclear plants is split equally among all warheads). The fissile material output, by the way, can be independently verified with orbital and other assets that look at radiation emissions against background radiation levels on Earth, as well as by tracking electricity voltage and wattage levels exiting a nuclear power facility (which HUMINT or cyber can do ridiculously easily - you've never seen armed guards frisking people if they go near a substation, have you?).

Now split that 50-50 between Pakistan and China. 75 warheads against Pakistan, assuming a 20% attrition rate (due to factors as varied as poor maintenance on missiles/warheads to sabotage to active intercept), gets you 60 warheads impacting to cause an estimated 8-10m direct casualties and destruction of 25-35% of Pakistan's urban area. 75 warheads against China would have a much higher attrition rate, since China has a functional ABM system surrounding key cities, and Indian warheads cannot hit China from a depressed trajectory unless India puts its (few, noisy, slow) SSBNs in the South China Sea (the happy hunting ground of over 24 Chinese attack submarines and 20 ASW destroyers/frigates.) Ergo, India could possibly get 50% of its warheads into China (generous assumption); this gets 38 warheads impacting to cause an estimated 5-7m direct casualties and destruction of less than 7% of China's urban area. China, by contrast, would fire about 100-150 warheads in depressed trajectories from mobile launchers in the Tibetan Plateau; the average yield of Chinese 'retaliatory' warheads (those for countervalue as opposed to tactical strikes) is over 2MT. India would lose over a third of its urban area and suffer nearly 50m casualties in the process. The math simply doesn't work out for India at this time.

The other thing here is that even though you can argue global opinion will be tilted against China going into the match, it will be tilted against India coming out of the match as India basically dragged a third country into a nuclear conflict against it out of spite; India will look irresponsible to the world and downright evil to China. The PLA would, in all likelihood, invade and permanently occupy NE India for 'reparations'; India would be helpless absent US/Russian intervention since its current doctrine calls for all its corps to march west for a joyride in Pakland following nuke strikes.

Granted, India could develop its military in ways that alter the calculus above, but that's a question of speculation rather than facts.

The other thing to note China can always use Pakistan to cause more and more pressure to India than India can use Japan to cause on China (or vice versa), since Indo-Pakistani relations are infinitely more fraught than Sino-Japanese relations, and a dovish Japanese PM will dial back pressure on China (due to powerful trade incentives) in ways that a dovish Pakistani PM will not (what is there to gain for Pakistan?).
I can really see the desperation rushing down like a waterfall from your post! :pound: The Pakis may be warmongering morons, but they are not insane, which is what you are assuming. Why would they rush into nuclear war with India for China's sake knowing that regardless of the outcome of the India-China conflict, at the end of it, Pakistan will cease to exist? The answer is that they will not. So India's entire stockpile can indeed be used against China. In addition, as has been stated here many times, Indian nukes have a maximum yield of 220kT, not 75 kT, as the tested devices have the ability to be daisy-chained up to that explosive yield. Look up Dr. Anil Kakodkar's interview on the web.

Lastly, India will not need even 50% of its 150 nukes to send China back to the stone age (same applies to Chinese strikes on India). Just targeting Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and a few other top tier cities with 4-5 bombs each will ensure that China suffers overwhelming losses and for all practical purposes, you can forget about being the #1 economy in the world for another 100 years. If China starts the war as the aggressor (as is usually the case based on past history :rolleyes:), then you can be sure that India's arsenal won't be the only one that is emptied on China.

Your desperation in trying to counter any sort of potential discussion about an India-Japan-SK defence alliance is making you lose your usually calm, logical train of thought. ;)
 

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You are so naive, and only thinking one sided. Why Japan and S Korea willing to give India a leveraging token when they don't have to, they already have the strongest umbrella, why pay unnessissary price? You think only you are smart, and everybody else is stupid?
Same goes for you.. You think you are smart and everybody else is stupid?
 

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Only fools will need GOI for these!
Anyone with a brain would what Japanese need:

1. Weapons--from fighter to radar
2. A strong navy in western Pacific
3. A super political power to support

India can't offer any of them, simple as that.
Since you claim that you have a brain, you can understand that if Japan and India makes a defence pact that if one country is attacked, the other will respond as well with full force, what can China do? Can China dare to lauch an attack on any of these countries and start provoking as usual? You miserably failed again to understand the geo-politics and the strength of combined power. All this can be done without exchanging a single rupee/yen or a single fishing boat. And as Chinese very well know that economics is the key for Chinese arrogance, Japan and India are going to ramp up fast their financial dealings and investments. If Japan, SK and India gangup economically, rest of ASEAN will follow and the next thing you know, you would be living mostly on internal demand rather than the current export oriented economy. India can offer insurance against China and anyone who took a basic risk management 101 class will know the importance of this move.
 

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150 warheads - then assume an average 50-75kt yield (if the total weapon-ready fissile material output of India's nuclear plants is split equally among all warheads). The fissile material output, by the way, can be independently verified with orbital and other assets that look at radiation emissions against background radiation levels on Earth, as well as by tracking electricity voltage and wattage levels exiting a nuclear power facility (which HUMINT or cyber can do ridiculously easily - you've never seen armed guards frisking people if they go near a substation, have you?).

Now split that 50-50 between Pakistan and China. 75 warheads against Pakistan, assuming a 20% attrition rate (due to factors as varied as poor maintenance on missiles/warheads to sabotage to active intercept), gets you 60 warheads impacting to cause an estimated 8-10m direct casualties and destruction of 25-35% of Pakistan's urban area. 75 warheads against China would have a much higher attrition rate, since China has a functional ABM system surrounding key cities, and Indian warheads cannot hit China from a depressed trajectory unless India puts its (few, noisy, slow) SSBNs in the South China Sea (the happy hunting ground of over 24 Chinese attack submarines and 20 ASW destroyers/frigates.) Ergo, India could possibly get 50% of its warheads into China (generous assumption); this gets 38 warheads impacting to cause an estimated 5-7m direct casualties and destruction of less than 7% of China's urban area. China, by contrast, would fire about 100-150 warheads in depressed trajectories from mobile launchers in the Tibetan Plateau; the average yield of Chinese 'retaliatory' warheads (those for countervalue as opposed to tactical strikes) is over 2MT. India would lose over a third of its urban area and suffer nearly 50m casualties in the process. The math simply doesn't work out for India at this time.

The other thing here is that even though you can argue global opinion will be tilted against China going into the match, it will be tilted against India coming out of the match as India basically dragged a third country into a nuclear conflict against it out of spite; India will look irresponsible to the world and downright evil to China. The PLA would, in all likelihood, invade and permanently occupy NE India for 'reparations'; India would be helpless absent US/Russian intervention since its current doctrine calls for all its corps to march west for a joyride in Pakland following nuke strikes.

Granted, India could develop its military in ways that alter the calculus above, but that's a question of speculation rather than facts.

The other thing to note China can always use Pakistan to cause more and more pressure to India than India can use Japan to cause on China (or vice versa), since Indo-Pakistani relations are infinitely more fraught than Sino-Japanese relations, and a dovish Japanese PM will dial back pressure on China (due to powerful trade incentives) in ways that a dovish Pakistani PM will not (what is there to gain for Pakistan?).
Why would India try to nuke Pakistan even if Pakis try to nuke us? There are non-nuke designs which are powerful enough to make an impact more intensive than nukes. Once destroyed, we can always occupy pak land as Pak ceases to exist the moment they try. We love Chinese more than Pakis. So you can be rest assured that you will get all our nukes with lots of love. And all your assumptions are based on India waging a war alone when China is getting pissed about India-Japan alliance. So much for strategic thinking from you :pound:
 

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You are so naive, and only thinking one sided. Why Japan and S Korea willing to give India a leveraging token when they don't have to, they already have the strongest umbrella, why pay unnessissary price? You think only you are smart, and everybody else is stupid?
Guess why?

Here it is for you.

Seoul pushes for defence upgrade

- Pact on visiting President's agenda



Park Geun-hye


New Delhi, Jan. 13: South Korea wants to elevate its defence partnership with India through a new pact, Seoul has told New Delhi ahead of a visit this Wednesday by President Park Geun-hye that Tokyo and Beijing will closely follow.

But a key difference in defence policy aims between the nations may prevent an early breakthrough on the agreement that could upgrade South Korea's status as an Indian strategic partner to just a notch below that of Russia and Israel, senior government officials said.

India and South Korea had inked two pacts in 2010 to facilitate bilateral visits of top military commanders and to pursue joint defence research.

But Seoul, increasingly threatened by muscular postures adopted by China and Japan in recent months, is keen to sign a new "defence security agreement" with India, a South Korean diplomat confirmed.

The proposal from South Korea has presented India an opportunity to build on its strategic relations with key Asia-Pacific nations that has emerged a key theatre of global geo-strategic forays since the US announced its "pivot" to the region in June 2012.

The pact, officials said, could pave the way for the purchase of lethal weapons and vessels that South Korea has traditionally been reticent to sell to India.

But the pact proposed by the South Koreans is limited by its focus on India as a buyer, rather than collaborative research and investments in India's defence sector, the officials said.

"We want them to invest in India, including in the defence sector, and to partner us in joint research, not just sell us stuff — and that will be a key thrust of our talks during President Park's visit," an official said.

New Delhi will also try to persuade Seoul to nudge its electronics giants to invest along the Bangalore Mysore Industrial Corridor (BMIC), fast shaping up as one of India's key manufacturing highways, during Park's visit, the officials said. Park will travel to Bangalore after delegation-level talks in New Delhi.

India will cite the environment ministry's recent five-year clearance to Posco's Odisha plant as an example of its intent to facilitate similar South Korean investments, the officials said. "We're counting on South Korean investments to develop eight major towns along the BMIC," another official said.

President Pranab Mukherjee will host a luncheon banquet for Park on Thursday, and the South Korean leader — the first woman President of her country — will also meet Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Vice-President Hamid Ansari and foreign minister Salman Khurshid that day.

Like many other countries in East and Southeast Asia, South Korea views India as a counterbalance to the rising tensions in its neighbourhood as China and Japan joust for military and strategic superiority.

But unlike many of these nations like Vietnam and the Philippines, South Korea's concerns are not restricted to China's assertiveness over territories Beijing hasn't held for several decades.

Seoul does have territorial disputes with China, but it also holds deep-seated distrust for Tokyo because of alleged war crimes committed against Koreans by the Japanese during the Second World War.

Shinzo Abe, Japan's Prime Minister who has demonstratively visited controversial war shrines and is expected in India as the chief guest for Republic Day celebrations later this month, has upset the South Koreans as much as he has irked the Chinese.

"The recognition in the region that India can play a key role in ensuring peace, security and stability in the region is a major achievement for us," an official said. "But there's a lot more to do and President Park's visit is a key step in that direction."

Seoul pushes for defence upgrade
So, now do you realise that I have an ringside perception of what the future holds?

Call me Bwana!

Cheers!
 
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Only fools will need GOI for these!
Anyone with a brain would what Japanese need:

1. Weapons--from fighter to radar
2. A strong navy in western Pacific
3. A super political power to support

India can't offer any of them, simple as that.
Your fear shows!

Fools?

Well they must be fools to China since Abe and the South Korea President is jaw jawing with India for a stronger defence tie up!

Seoul pushes for defence upgrade

- Pact on visiting President's agenda


India and South Korea had inked two pacts in 2010 to facilitate bilateral visits of top military commanders and to pursue joint defence research.

But Seoul, increasingly threatened by muscular postures adopted by China and Japan in recent months, is keen to sign a new "defence security agreement" with India, a South Korean diplomat confirmed.

The proposal from South Korea has presented India an opportunity to build on its strategic relations with key Asia-Pacific nations that has emerged a key theatre of global geo-strategic forays since the US announced its "pivot" to the region in June 2012.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1140114/jsp/nation/story_17785703.jsp#.UtTGgZ6SzKc
Heard of two fronts?

Heard of what a number of Navies acting in concert can do to the strategic choke-points and waterways?
 
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I can really see the desperation rushing down like a waterfall from your post! :pound: The Pakis may be warmongering morons, but they are not insane, which is what you are assuming. Why would they rush into nuclear war with India for China's sake knowing that regardless of the outcome of the India-China conflict, at the end of it, Pakistan will cease to exist? The answer is that they will not.
You're misreading the original post chain here. My first post was that China will give Pakistan advanced nuclear devices if India ties up with Japan, and my second post showed the math behind how that strategy makes sense. You say Pakistan wouldn't get involved in a Sino-Indian conflict, but what you don't get is that China wouldn't fight a Sino-Indian conflict; it would only 'defend Pakistan'; that is to say, it would only fight in an Indo-Pakistani conflict.

Absent that, what's the rush? China is growing faster than India...

Lastly, India will not need even 50% of its 150 nukes to send China back to the stone age (same applies to Chinese strikes on India). Just targeting Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenzhen and a few other top tier cities with 4-5 bombs each will ensure that China suffers overwhelming losses and for all practical purposes, you can forget about being the #1 economy in the world for another 100 years.
You drastically overestimate the ability of India's arsenal to get nukes onto the Chinese coast. India has about 20-30 Agni-Vs (each with 1 warhead) that can reach the coast from a safe launching location. China has over two dozen S-300 and S-400 systems (each with 18-24 missiles) surrounding Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Guangzhou, HK, etc, plus multiple ASAT systems in central China. The math doesn't work out in India's favor.

Second, Chinese cities are much larger than you think thanks to an extensive freeway system that encourages urban sprawl. What's more, the provincial nature of Chinese industry means each major city has a large industrial base. 4-5 nukes for six major cities wouldn't cut it; China would absorb a 20% hit to GDP but be able to reconstruct impacted areas in less than 3 years (based on the CIA's own internal estimates); China would be set back 10 years, not 100.

By contrast, Indian cities are much more cramped, due to a dilapidated mass transit and highway system that keeps population density high. India's industrial capacity 100-150 Chinese nukes would raze most of India's industrial capacity in a heartbeat.

If China starts the war as the aggressor (as is usually the case based on past history :rolleyes:)
Wrong, what China will do is raise tensions on the subcontinent a point where Pakistan solves China's problems for it - either via containment or MAD.

Your desperation in trying to counter any sort of potential discussion about an India-Japan-SK defence alliance is making you lose your usually calm, logical train of thought. ;)
And your arrogance in trying to find some way to compensate for China's bilateral economic and military superiority is making you cast sanguine views regarding a nuclear holocaust on the Indian people.

EDIT: 'Counter'? I'm not trying to counter a 'potential discussion' - I'm participating in an actual discussion about such an alliance.
 
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You're misreading the original post chain here. My first post was that China will give Pakistan advanced nuclear devices if India ties up with Japan, and my second post showed the math behind how that strategy makes sense. You say Pakistan wouldn't get involved in a Sino-Indian conflict, but what you don't get is that China wouldn't fight a Sino-Indian conflict; it would only 'defend Pakistan'; that is to say, it would only fight in an Indo-Pakistani conflict.

Absent that, what's the rush? China is growing faster than India...



You drastically overestimate the ability of India's arsenal to get nukes onto the Chinese coast. India has about 20-30 Agni-Vs (each with 1 warhead) that can reach the coast from a safe launching location. China has over two dozen S-300 and S-400 systems (each with 18-24 missiles) surrounding Beijing, Shanghai, Tianjin, Guangzhou, HK, etc, plus multiple ASAT systems in central China. The math doesn't work out in India's favor.

Second, Chinese cities are much larger than you think thanks to an extensive freeway system that encourages urban sprawl. What's more, the provincial nature of Chinese industry means each major city has a large industrial base. 4-5 nukes for six major cities wouldn't cut it; China would absorb a 20% hit to GDP but be able to reconstruct impacted areas in less than 3 years (based on the CIA's own internal estimates); China would be set back 10 years, not 100.

By contrast, Indian cities are much more cramped, due to a dilapidated mass transit and highway system that keeps population density high. India's industrial capacity 100-150 Chinese nukes would raze most of India's industrial capacity in a heartbeat.



Wrong, what China will do is raise tensions on the subcontinent a point where Pakistan solves China's problems for it - either via containment or MAD.



And your arrogance in trying to find some way to compensate for China's bilateral economic and military superiority is making you cast sanguine views regarding a nuclear holocaust on the Indian people.

EDIT: 'Counter'? I'm not trying to counter a 'potential discussion' - I'm participating in an actual discussion about such an alliance.

Advanced nukes?

What you gave them up untill now are not advanced?

Bitch please?now one gives a shit to you commies.
 

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Advanced nukes?

What you gave them up untill now are not advanced?

Bitch please?now one gives a shit to you commies.
Pakistan has never received Chinese advancements in MaRV (maneuverable re-entry vehicles, which basically means a warhead that does loops and sudden turns in the high atmosphere to throw off SAMs), radar decoys mounted on ballistic missiles, firing and fuzing solutions, radiation-hardened chipsets (enabling GPS-guided nuclear warheads), tritium gas storage...

There is much more to making a nuclear weapon than imploding a chunk of plutonium (and even that requires precise explosive lenses and fuzing systems precise down to the nanosecond).

And let's not forget that China has had the blueprints for the world's most advanced warhead design since 1996.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL30143.pdf
 

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Pakistan has never received Chinese advancements in MaRV (maneuverable re-entry vehicles, which basically means a warhead that does loops and sudden turns in the high atmosphere to throw off SAMs), radar decoys mounted on ballistic missiles, firing and fuzing solutions, radiation-hardened chipsets (enabling GPS-guided nuclear warheads), tritium gas storage...

There is much more to making a nuclear weapon than imploding a chunk of plutonium (and even that requires precise explosive lenses and fuzing systems precise down to the nanosecond).

http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/nuke/RL30143.pdf

I think you havent got my point fully.

You are overestimationg yourseft and pkistan.

No one gives a shit about Nukes.IF you ahve advanced technology why are you still building guns.

As I said before We indians never give a shit about pakistan.Soon pakistan will be split,taken over by taliban,if taliban comes in to power they will ---- in north arunachal pradesh and your muslim areas.

please dont pring pakibeggers.They dont know whome to beg now.
 

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Since you claim that you have a brain, you can understand that if Japan and India makes a defence pact that if one country is attacked, the other will respond as well with full force, what can China do? Can China dare to lauch an attack on any of these countries and start provoking as usual?
Since I get a brain, I know this kind of defence pact won't work! The problems between India/China and Japan/China are regarding the land and island of peanut size. The worst can happen is a war can't last for 2 month. On the other hand, there is no way that Japan and India can provide military back up except initiating a total war from the other direction. The point is that neither India nor Japan would go that far for their partner, Indian knows it, Japanese knows it and Chinese knows it as well.

You miserably failed again to understand the geo-politics and the strength of combined power. All this can be done without exchanging a single rupee/yen or a single fishing boat.
Well, you failed to understand geo-politics is about Pay and Gain. In this combined power you suggested, either side can't provide what the other side asks.

And as Chinese very well know that economics is the key for Chinese arrogance, Japan and India are going to ramp up fast their financial dealings and investments. If Japan, SK and India gangup economically, rest of ASEAN will follow and the next thing you know, you would be living mostly on internal demand rather than the current export oriented economy.
Good dream! But let's come back to real world. For 2013, China was the biggiest trader with most of Asian countries including south korea. Chinese bought 10 times from these countries than India, even Japanese sold $61.46b to China in first half year of 2013 while India only bought $12.41b for the whole year of 2012-2013. So giving up a 10 times bigger customer to gang up with India? Use your brain please!


India can offer insurance against China and anyone who took a basic risk management 101 class will know the importance of this move.
No offence, but after 1962, no one believe that India can provide that kind of insurance against China.
 

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Well, that is why India sucks in its foreign policy.
Bring Japan and south korea into a single alliance against China? Even USA can't make that happen after 60 years effort! Good luck!

What always make me laughing is: Indians think that they can build up an military and political alliance against Chinese by offering nothing but empty words.
The US cannot openly pressure India against Iran. We have our Milllenniums old traditions on courting mutual enemies and brinnging them on table. India's tremendous potential will lure them to work hand in hand to hedge their problems against China. Their immediate threat is the question of survival in the face of a aggressive China. They will unite to face the threat, that is China. India will be the facilitator.
 

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Remember that if India decides to coordinate its land forces with Japanese naval and air pressure, China will offer Pakistan advanced nuclear warheads and launch systems to ensure that India is removed from the table as soon as possible in any conflict. Then the tie-up with Japan would be a net loss for India, as India would have ensured its (limited) nuclear arsenal becomes split in the event of any real conflict.
Ha Ha Ha... Pakistan will have been subdued before India sets its sight on China. Dont worry. Your trup card will become useless for itself.
 

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Ha Ha Ha... Pakistan will have been subdued before India sets its sight on China. Dont worry. Your trup card will become useless for itself.
If that is India's strategic choice following a Japanese tie-up, China's choice becomes even easier - get the Pakistanis to set their nuclear tripwire as low as they can, so that in the event things do get hot, India goes into the after getting nuked a few dozen times...
 

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The US cannot openly pressure India against Iran. We have our Milllenniums old traditions on courting mutual enemies and brinnging them on table.
Did Iran ask india's alliance to protect itself? NO!

India's tremendous potential will lure them to work hand in hand to hedge their problems against China.

10 years ago, we already started talking about India's tremendous potential. 10 years later, we are talking about this potential? No one is going to bet their own countires' future on India's potential.

Their immediate threat is the question of survival in the face of a aggressive China. They will unite to face the threat, that is China. India will be the facilitator.
Well,
First, before you jump into the conclusion, please make your basis right: a couple of small islands is not the question of survival for Japanese. This is a political power game.
Second, India still gets a long way to go on building a navy strong enough to challenge Chinese in east asia. Japan is looking at USA for military guarantee, not india.
 

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