China seeks military bases in Pakistan

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Dear Ray:

we are NOT talking about who is the most "indigenous" or "owner" of some place (after all, as far as I learned, modern Indian can be very different from ancient ones. I could be wrong and pls correct/forgive me this),
we are talking the justification of colonization. I can accept your point that people should look ahead and at bright side, instead staying in dark ones. Still, my point holds, there should be NEVER, EVER justification to colonize others.

As for so-called yuánzhùmín, they are NOT even the most original people in Taiwan. Historians believe there are even earlier, like Malays coming from SEA, is the most original people explore & stay in Taiwan. I do NOT deny Hans "conquare" yuánzhùmín. But again, I am NOT arguing who is the real indigenous, but about justification of an ugly period: in your case, you do imply China should stay under colonization/occupy by Japan, and some good assets can justify, which is absolutely wrong and upset me.
No one is justifying colonisation or even invasions!

But what is important is that we are not in a position to change history. It is the past.

What is important, learn from the past, hopefully do not make the mistake and move ahead.

Take the case of the Holocaust. It has been beaten to death.It does not arouse the same disgust as it did after the truth emerged after the WW II. By breast beating all the time, people get bored. People want to move ahead and not live in the past and whimper and wail and even fail in the future.

The Western humiliation and the Japanese subjugation of China did immense good to China. You got rid of the Qing (foreign) Dynasty because they were helpless against the western economic invasion and you got rid of the Japanese but learnt big lessons out of the same whereby China is becoming a challenge to the world!

If this had not have happened, you would be living in the feudal imperial ways even now!

Likewise, India learnt a lesson from the Islamic invasions and the British colonisation. We never agreed to join any Bloc during the Cold War days. We had our own policies and I daresay it was easy. We have survived. Even today, notwithstanding good reasons, we are not aligning ourselves with the US.

But look at Pakistan. Learnt nothing from history and see where they have landed themselves!

As they say - every black cloud has a silver lining!

It is better to see the silver lining than wail and whimper and cry an ocean over the black clouds!

Though you are a Taiwanese, let Mao, for a change show you the way:

One watches the unyielding pines in the vast azure sunset
And the fleeting clouds below in seeming chaos yet majestically moving.
Here beside the cave of the Taoist Immortals one sees that boundless beauty
is to be found only among the most dangerous peaks.
 
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we dont talk to other's history, but English now is ur official language . can you call it history?LOL

If you don't want historical reminders, don't start talking crap about others' history. As such 90% of your history comes doctored and "state-approved" I am surprised how your modern generations know about colonial occupations in your land.

Save your Red party from a counter revolution in coming future rather than worrying about us. Hiding and doctoring half your news will not make the troubles vanish.
 

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we dont talk to other's history, but English now is ur official language . can you call it history?LOL
English is the language officially recognised by the Nagas.

Should we reject it, if we accept other languages?

Check the plaque on the entrance to the Forbidden city. It is written in Mandarin and also in Manchu!

Plaque at the Forbidden City in Beijing, China, in both Chinese (left) and Manchu (right)

Plaque at the Forbidden City in Beijing, China, in both Chinese (left) and Manchu (right)
Resources on the Manchu




Stop acting cute and think that Indians are brain denied as in China!

It is time that you Manchu descendants stop forgetting your origin and culture!

They made you wear pigtails for 300 years. Never forget that!
 
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This will be a message to the islamic world that US influence is on the decline and the age of China is emerging.
 

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Except that it is on the rise in XInjiang!

and the bell tolls for China!
 

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u r talking history again. In real world , we speak Chinese and Manchu is part of China.LOL
How can u live in real world?LOL

English is the language officially recognised by the Nagas.

Should we reject it, if we accept other languages?

Check the plaque on the entrance to the Forbidden city. It is written in Mandarin and also in Manchu!

Plaque at the Forbidden City in Beijing, China, in both Chinese (left) and Manchu (right)



Resources on the Manchu




Stop acting cute and think that Indians are brain denied as in China!

It is time that you Manchu descendants stop forgetting your origin and culture!

They made you wear pigtails for 300 years. Never forget that!
 

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If Manchus were a part of China, then Sun Yat Sen was the rear part of the human anatomy?

All your LOL back to you!

We live in a real world too.

English is a part of our vocabulary!

It is just that because of that we are game changers, while you are frogs in the well!

Your rear burns and that is why you are totally pissed off!!

As they say in the US - you Han plick eating flied lice!

Riggs ... "Flied lice?"
Kim Chan as Uncle Benny ... "Flied lice! It is fried rice, you plick!"
http://www.wavlist.com/movies/076/index.html
 
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Both them are Chinese. What is your point?LOL

Manchus were never Chinese.

Manchu people stem their roots from the Merkit people, a native Mongolic tribal people from the Mongolian plateau in the 12th century.

If they were Chinese they would not have the foolish Hans wearing pigrtails as if they were some porcine creatures!

By your logic, even the Japanese who invaded you and made you slaves should be Chinese!

Stuff your LOLs where you find yours it comfortable and start smelling the coffee instead.

Lies and delusions maybe your staple as taught to you, but we have minds of our own!
 
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Brigadier, it seems you know more about chinese history than chinese themselves.
 

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If Manchus were a part of China, then Sun Yat Sen was the rear part of the human anatomy?

All your LOL back to you!

We live in a real world too.

English is a part of our vocabulary!

It is just that because of that we are game changers, while you are frogs in the well!

Your rear burns and that is why you are totally pissed off!!

As they say in the US - you Han plick eating flied lice!
is this what you call civilized debate in india?

As they say in the US - you Han plick eating flied lice!
no, actually they don't say that in america.

but if you want to continue calling us "Han plicks" then please, by all means go ahead.
 
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is this what you call civilized debate in india?
You get three guesses!



no, actually they don't say that in america.

but if you want to continue calling us "Han plicks" then please, by all means go ahead.
Really?

Check out the link. It is not Indian for sure!
 

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Tianshan,

Once again for you!

Another popular example is in Lethal Weapon 4, when Mel Gibson's character is speaking to Uncle Benny, a Chinese resturant owner/ Triad member, "He asks Uncle Benny for some "flied lice" to which Benny responds "It's fried rice, you plick!" . The joke being that Benny corrects the flied lice part, but then deliberately mispronounces "prick".)
Online slang dictionary, language guide to speak Engrish Slang

Now Mel Gibson is an American, right?
 
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yes i saw that movie. he said "plick"... while you said "Han plick".

spot the difference?
The Chinese are Hans right? Or Martians?

What are you?

A Manchu? or what you call 'barbarians'?

Got that?



it was not mel gibson who said it, it was the chinese guy benny. if you are even able to read your own source.
Who was the script writer? The actor Benny?

You Chinese really know how to obfuscate and be weasel like!
 
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ray, you claimed that americans called us "Han plicks"... but that was a lie, to cover up your own racism.

it's the difference between calling someone a "piece of shit"... and a "black piece of shit"

one has an unnecessary racial component, and one does not.
 

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ray, you claimed that americans called us "Han plicks"... but that was a lie, to cover up your own racism.

it's the difference between calling someone a "piece of shit"... and a "black piece of shit"

one has an unnecessary racial component, and one does not.
No lie old boy.

Even the movie had it!

If it was not true, then it would have been banned!

Don't try to split hair.

If they call you plick, go fight them!
 

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