China Requires Censorship Software on New PCs

[badguy2000]

1. all governments always try to " cover" something as possbile as they can,including not only Chinese government, but aslo Indian govenment and west govenments.
don't forget how "watergate" happened.
don't forget how Yankee's government tried to monitor its citizens' telephon,under the name of " anti-terror"

" cover " or " monitor" is not the privilege of Chinese government.

the only difference is that CHinese government do it openly while west government and indian government do it secretely.

2.frankly speaking, I never heard that any PC-user around is required to installed such "cencorship softwares".

2. even if Chinese government does require to install such a software, I doubt that CHinese government's try will be successful.
don't forget, easily installing, easily unstalling

 

[MMuthu]

Guys.... I am not wrong...... Even the sun may rise in the South, But Chinese will never bad mouth their country

 

[p2prada]

1. all governments always try to " cover" something as possbile as they can,including not only Chinese government, but aslo Indian govenment and west govenments.
don't forget how "watergate" happened.
don't forget how Yankee's government tried to monitor its citizens' telephon,under the name of " anti-terror"

" cover " or " monitor" is not the privilege of Chinese government.

the only difference is that CHinese government do it openly while west government and indian government do it secretely.

They tried and failed. Because people said NO. Can People say NO in China?

don't forget, easily installing, easily unstalling

That's the point. What happens if the software is a mandatory download from all ISPs? What if they say you need to install the software to enable access to the internet? Just like how you need the original game CD in order to play it over the internet.

 

[Daredevil]

1. all governments always try to " cover" something as possbile as they can,including not only Chinese government, but aslo Indian govenment and west govenments.
don't forget how "watergate" happened.
don't forget how Yankee's government tried to monitor its citizens' telephon,under the name of " anti-terror"

" cover " or " monitor" is not the privilege of Chinese government.

the only difference is that CHinese government do it openly while west government and indian government do it secretely.

2.frankly speaking, I never heard that any PC-user around is required to installed such "cencorship softwares".

2. even if Chinese government does require to install such a software, I doubt that CHinese government's try will be successful.
don't forget, easily installing, easily unstalling

So, you are OK if your govt. snoops your PC and monitors your internet activity. By the way, what is your CCP is trying to cover up now. We do know that CCP is master of cover-ups.

 

[ZOOM]

1. all governments always try to " cover" something as possbile as they can,including not only Chinese government, but aslo Indian govenment and west govenments.
don't forget how "watergate" happened.
don't forget how Yankee's government tried to monitor its citizens' telephon,under the name of " anti-terror"

" cover " or " monitor" is not the privilege of Chinese government.

the only difference is that CHinese government do it openly while west government and indian government do it secretely.

2.frankly speaking, I never heard that any PC-user around is required to installed such "cencorship softwares".

2. even if Chinese government does require to install such a software, I doubt that CHinese government's try will be successful.
don't forget, easily installing, easily unstalling

I don't know what your chinese government or GOI doing secretly, but I must say that, Chinese government has done enough to impact your mental ability to figure out which is useful enough to understand what should and should not speak at wrong place. Above is the impeccable example of that mental suffering.

 

[EnlightenedMonk]

This is exactly what I hate about the Chinese Government... They go and black out everything... I even heard that the word "democracy" is illegal (or something to that extent) there and that they even beeped out those words from Obama's Inaugural speech... Boss, that is the height of it !!!

The Internet is a free medium and it is supposed to be that way... if the minds of children are not to be "corrupted" (your term, not mine) it is the job of their parents to decide and not the state.

This is just another way for them to control what you see and what you don't...

 

[ZOOM]

There is a query to all forumites.

If this all new sensorship comes into effect, then how does our Chiense members of this forum will going to cope up with. Since as IDF, even DFI will be their prime target of blacklisting, since even we allow freedom of expression which is supposed to be ailing element in chinese policy.

I am highly worried about Chinese friend who time and again comes with some of the most articulted comments for which there is no parallel in the world.

 

[badguy2000]

This is exactly what I hate about the Chinese Government... They go and black out everything... I even heard that the word "democracy" is illegal (or something to that extent) there and that they even beeped out those words from Obama's Inaugural speech... Boss, that is the height of it !!!

The Internet is a free medium and it is supposed to be that way... if the minds of children are not to be "corrupted" (your term, not mine) it is the job of their parents to decide and not the state.

This is just another way for them to control what you see and what you don't...

" you can be open or you can have a government"

let me show you how openly the democract government is operated!

as shown in " Yes minister" :

 

[badguy2000]

NO. they (citizens in democracy) have a right to be ignorant!

 

[Yusuf]

Covering up is one thing and censoring another.
"BG, dont take things OT"

 

[p2prada]

badguy, that's only a parody highlighting American ignorance in politics. That's all.

 

[ZOOM]

" you can be open or you can have a government"

Badguy, I don't understand one thing, why do you need to do so much of hardship in posting something as absurd as above. We are absolutley sure that, no matter how much we try to pacify your obsession with false notion sailing in your mind about all the Openness and blah blah blah, it would not produce any tangible result.

 

[Yusuf]

Cover up is something that is done to hide any act or action.
Censor is blocking of information which the government doesnt like. Censoring is not necessarily a cover up.

 

[F-14]

Bad guy 2000 i am not suprised that you hold such a viwe due to the Fact that the CPC has fed you the mantra that " we have given you Money But we need Your freedom"

 

[thakur_ritesh]

even when there are coverups in a democracy there is a free media which is there to thrash that cover up left right and center. then we have a thing called rti (right to information) under which the government of the day is forced to comeup clean on all the cover ups they have done and in case they dont want to do that, then there is a free judiciary and thankfully they are again free in india. no denying there are coverups but then there are mechanisums put in place to look after all such practices, can the same be said for the cencorship in an autocray, i am sure you know the answers better, badguy.

 

[thakur_ritesh]

do you knowwhere did our previous president start from to end up being the first person of the country, he is just one of the millions of such examples all over the country. you would do good to remember that india has had a socialist background and there are numerous policies for the benefit of the downtrodden of the society. one of the main reasons of the congress win in the recently held elections was that they focused on that particular section of the society and it is these poor people who more than anyone else take part in these elections, so what you claim of democracy being a tool in the hands of the rich is completely wrong, in fact its more a toll in the hands of the poor to undue any injustice that they might be subjected to.

how do you pronounce some one as a criminal till the time the same has not been proven in the eyes of the law of the land. there is a process put in place and same needs to be followed come what may and this precisely what gets followed in india. there might be “n” number of MPs with criminal background but all of them are under trails and till the time they are not pronounced guilty by the ruling court till then how can someone be defined as a criminal and even if someone is defined as a criminal that person always has the right to go to the higher courts where he gets a fair chance to defend himself. things do not get blindly followed, read carefully all that i have written and find the objectivity in all this, can the same be said about an autocratic rule and about prc where some 8000 people are officially killed by the government each year, and only they know how many more go missing and with no place to go to find justice. there is a dictate and everyone is forced to follow, so where is the objectivity, it is another thing that most of you have learnt to live with that and you are happy with it, then so be it, but just because you like autocratic rule more, in no way makes a democratic system a bad one and no one is denying that there are faults in a democratic setup, but as i said, there are steps and procedures put in place to make the system free of its ills.

 

[NikSha]

are you really sure that all the news " covered by indian government" can be reported on your " free medias"?

Right to Information: India vs China

I dunno if you can view the links in China or not, but oh well.. use proxy maybe? Here's more info on RTI for those who don't know.

 

[badguy2000]

Right to Information: India vs China

I dunno if you can view the links in China or not, but oh well.. use proxy maybe? Here's more info on RTI for those who don't know.

I can view it without proxy here.

however, I am sure that you are told by west medias that wikipedia is not available in CHina....

 

[NikSha]

That's cool man. I am shocked.








OOOK, I was being totally sarcastic in my last post about wikipedia bit but apparently, subtlety gets you nowhere these days. Oh well..

 

[Daredevil]

Trying to convince badguy about freedom in China is like forcing a 'dumb' person to speak. They are inherently like that, we can't change them.

PS: dumb = (of person) unable to speak