China not-so-secretly fumes & frets as India, Japan bond

[t_co]

Premption bro.Biggest Democracy bro.

You think the US and Russia are just itching for any excuse to get rid of China?

Do you think when you establish ADZ all the world powers are napping gord save you ,loads of underground talks are happening.

Really? Please enlighten us how China establishing the same ADIZ (not ADZ) Japan, the US, Korea, and Russia, (and the EU) has means the other world powers want to hit China.

To free some thing first you need to be free .You are not free you re puppets of your communist party.

Non sequitur.

Do you think pakibeggers are such an assholes to be used like gunia pig.I salute your IQ.:salute

No, Pakistan will do what is rational to ensure its survival as a state - and, absent that, ensure that neither Pakistan nor India can survive as a state.

Do you think Abe is in india for republic day without the approval of their big brother USA.

Yes, in fact. I talk to friends in the State Department every week. Most of them are pretty annoyed at Abe for hijacking US PACOM to serve the interests of Japan and not the United States.

Common man god has given humans brain.CCP has taken half of yours ,atleast use the remaining half.

I'm not a CPC member. Also, it seems that nationalism has taken all of your brain.

 

[boris]

India would nuke Pakistan, sure. Would India nuke China, a legally neutral party in the war? Would anyone dare publicly support India?

Ask any politician in India if they, as PM, would nuke a neutral China if India got hit by Pakistani warheads.

Again in an Indo-Pak confrontation why would India want to nuke China especially when you yourself tag it as a neutral party?

Unless China does some military action there is no point of any military strike from the Indian side let alone a nuke strike, responses do not have to be highly disproportionate. Of course that being said if the PLA does get involved then they become a belligerent entity so like I said the Indian response will depend on the Chinese move, not a straight a nuke strike man ,c,mon our nations aren't playing "rise of nations" here.

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

India would nuke Pakistan, sure. Would India nuke China, a legally neutral party in the war? Would anyone dare publicly support India?

Ask any politician in India if they, as PM, would nuke a neutral China if India got hit by Pakistani warheads.

See again you are not even using ur half-remaining brain.If pak nukes us we will them not you.

Then we will defnetly nuke you to stone age.

 

[t_co]

What are you saying man? :shocked: are you alright? When did China change its stance on pile of high-altitude rocks and started concentrated on shipping via IOR?

Do you honestly think border talks or trade talks are all that goes on at Sino-Indian summits?

 

[kseeker]

Do you honestly think border talks or trade talks are all that goes on at Sino-Indian summits?

What else do they talk then, Lady Gaga gossips?

 

[t_co]

What else do they talk then, Lady Gaga gossips?

IOR security in the Gulf of Aden was specifically on the menu during Premier Li's visit. This is just one example of many.

 

[kseeker]

IOR security in the Gulf of Aden was specifically on the menu during Premier Li's visit. This is just one example of many.

It's pretty simple comrade. Handover occupied land,Aksai Chin and stop claiming what is not your's i.e. Arunachal Pradesh. Rest of the things will get settled within no time.

If India - China can work on resolving border issues and if at all there's a peaceful resolution, we can cooperate and co-exist side by side. However, mighty China doesn't want to compromise a bit, isn't it?

 

[angeldude13]

India would nuke Pakistan, sure. Would India nuke China, a legally neutral party in the war? Would anyone dare publicly support India?

Ask any politician in India if they, as PM, would nuke a neutral China if India got hit by Pakistani warheads.

Pakistan nuking India is the millennium joke.
Those sh8t punjabi muslims are born pu&&y and they Will always remain in power because pathans,Sindhi and others are dumb nuts.
So pakistan nuking India is not happening and if it is happening then china got something to worry that is called radiation.

Japaaan love in tookyo

 

[t_co]

It's pretty simple comrade. Handover occupied land,Aksai Chin and stop claiming what is not your's i.e. Arunachal Pradesh. Rest of the things will get settled within no time.

Why should China hand over what India claims, while India doesn't hand over what China claims?

If India - China can work on resolving border issues and if at all there's a peaceful resolution, we can cooperate and co-exist side by side. However, mighty China doesn't want to compromise a bit, isn't it?

Of course. However, India hasn't made any official push about codifying the LoAC as the border. China has raised it in every single PM-level meeting since 1992. Which side is being obdurate?

 

[t_co]

Pakistan nuking India is the millennium joke.
Those sh8t punjabi muslims are born pu&&y and they Will always remain in power because pathans,Sindhi and others are dumb nuts.
So pakistan nuking India is not happening and if it is happening then china got something to worry that is called radiation.

Japaaan love in tookyo

@mods? Cleanup on aisle four!

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

Why should China hand over what India claims, while India doesn't hand over what China claims?



Of course. However, India hasn't made any official push about codifying the LoAC as the border. China has raised it in every single PM-level meeting since 1992. Which side is being obdurate?

Because entire TIbet belongs to India we want america to take you out so that we can take what is ours rightfully.

 

[t_co]

Because entire TIbet belongs to India we want america to take you out so that we can take what is ours rightfully.

...really?

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

...really?

absolutely do you know why we are having good relations with USA,JAPAN,RUSSIA ?

put a refarendum in nort arunachal pradesh you will see.do you have that much guts?:weep:

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

...really?

I will tell you one secret dont tell it to any body.after syria is over world powers ie.USA,JAPAN,INDIA,RUSSIA,SK will come to gangrape china.


Keep it to your self dont tell any one.

 

[kseeker]

Why should China hand over what India claims, while India doesn't hand over what China claims?

It's a deadlock situation isn't it?

Of course. However, India hasn't made any official push about codifying the LoAC as the border. China has raised it in every single PM-level meeting since 1992. Which side is being obdurate?

In absence of mutually agreed LoAC how one can negotiate in the first place?

Border Defence Cooperation Agreement between India and China : Press Releases : Prime Minister of India - Dr. Manmohan Singh

Also, Border Defence Cooperation Agreement between India and China : Press Releases : Prime Minister of India - Dr. Manmohan Singh

Border Defence Cooperation Agreement between India and China

The Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China (hereinafter referred to as the 'two sides'),

Firmly believing that the India-China Strategic and Cooperative Partnership for Peace and Prosperity serves the fundamental interests of the people of the two countries,

Reiterating that neither side shall use its military capability against the other side and that their respective military strengths shall not be used to attack the other side,

Reaffirming that neither side shall use or threaten to use force against the other side by any means nor seek unilateral superiority,

Having accepted the principle of mutual and equal security,

Acknowledging the need to continue to maintain peace, stability and tranquility along the line of actual control in the India-China border areas and to continue implementing confidence building measures in the military field along the line of actual control,

Recognizing the importance of materializing the spirit of the Agreement between the Government of the Republic of India and Government of the People's Republic of China on the Maintenance of Peace and Tranquility Along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areassigned on 7th September 1993, the Agreement between the Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China on Confidence Building Measures in the Military Field Along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areassigned on 29th November 1996, the Protocol between the Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China on Modalities for the Implementation of Confidence Building Measures in the Military Field Along the Line of Actual Control in India-China Border Areassigned on 11th April 2005 and the Agreement between the Government of the Republic of India and the Government of the People's Republic of China on the Establishment of a Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairssigned on 17th January 2012,

Have agreed as follows:-

Article I

The two sides shall carry out border defence cooperation on the basis of their respective laws and relevant bilateral agreements.

Article II

The two sides shall implement border defence cooperation in the following ways:

1. Exchange information-including information about military exercises, aircrafts, demolition operations and unmarked mines-and take consequent measures conducive to the maintenance of peace, stability and tranquility along the line of actual control in the India-China border areas.

2. Jointly combat smuggling of arms, wildlife, wildlife articles and other contrabands.

3. Assist the other side in locating personnel, livestock, means of transport and aerial vehicles that may have crossed or are possibly in the process of crossing the line of actual control in the India-China border areas.

4. Work with the other side in combating natural disasters or infectious diseases that may affect or spread to the other side.

5. Any other way mutually agreed upon by the two sides.

Article III

Border deference cooperation visualized in this agreement shall be implemented through the following mechanisms:

1. Flag meetings or border personnel meetings at designated places along the line of actual control in the India-China border areas.

2. Periodic meetings between officers of the relevant Military Regions of China and Army Commands of India and between departments responsible for military operations.

3. Periodic meetings of the representatives of the Ministry of Defence of the Government of India and the Ministry of National Defence of the People's Republic of China.

4. Meetings of the Working Mechanism for Consultation and Coordination on India-China Border Affairs.

5. Meetings of the India-China Annual Defence Dialogue.

Article IV

In implementing border defence cooperation and to facilitate contacts and meetings between relevant organizations, the two sides may establish Border Personnel Meeting sites in all sectors, as well as telephone contacts and telecommunication links at mutually agreed locations along the line of actual control. The two sides may also consider establishing a Hotline between the military headquarters of the two countries. Specific arrangements shall be decided upon through mutual consultations between the two sides.

Article V

In order to enhance understanding and cooperation between the border defence forces of the two sides, each side may invite the other side for joint celebrations on major national or military days or festivals and organize cultural activities, non-contact sports events and small scale tactical exercises along the line of actual control in the India-China border areas. In addition, the two sides may also conduct joint military training exercises, at Army level, in each other's country on a regular basis. The theme of such joint exercises will be decided through mutual consultations.

Article VI

The two sides agree that they shall not follow or tail patrols of the other side in areas where there is no common understanding of the line of actual control in the India-China border areas.

Article VII

In case a doubtful situation arises with reference to any activity by either side in border areas where there is no common understanding of the line of actual control, either side has the right to seek a clarification from the other side. In such cases, the clarification shall be sought and replies to them shall be conveyed through any of the mechanisms established under Article III of this Agreement.

Article VIII

The two sides agree that if the border defence forces of the two sides come to a face-to-face situation in areas where there is no common understanding of the line of actual control, both sides shall exercise maximum self-restraint, refrain from any provocative actions, not use force or threaten to use force against the other side, treat each other with courtesy and prevent exchange of fire or armed conflict.

Article IX

The two sides shall implement this Agreement without prejudice to their respective positions on the alignment of the line of actual control as well as on the boundary question.

Article X

This Agreement shall come into force on the date of its signature. It may be revised, amended or terminated with the consent of the two sides. Any revision or amendment, mutually agreed by the two sides, shall form an integral part of this Agreement.

 

[CCP]

Hindi-Chini bhai-bhai !

 

[Ray]

There is good reason for China to 'dislike' the détente between India and Japan, more so, since the intent of Shino Abe is so crystal clear. China's cup of worries brims over.

China is not known to 'expose' her intentions openly and instead is very cautious and goes about with underhand dealings in every aspect of international relations with the least publicity. And to top it, China's genius in the doublespeak that emanates from the Mandarins in Beijing.

Pakistan is not of concern to India since it is already on the way to self destructs. It is only a matter of time. This, however, would be worrisome for China since a fractured Pakistan is a dangerous proposition as the fundamentalists would then be enveloped with galloping ecstasy to 'liberate' Xinjiang from the Han kaffirs. The trend has started in real earnest where the Uighurs are no longer banking on their knives, and instead, have graduated to explosives as was experienced by China in the last attack.

On the other hand, Obama will be departing, and given the mood in the US, the 'natural' American psychology is slowly resurfacing. It is obvious that the Americans will try to exert what they think is their birthright, i.e. rule the international waves. They have also become pragmatic that they have to address the issue with allies. Hence, the US will delight in the discomfort of peripheral nations about China and make the best of it, to corner China, which is on the way to be the US competitor in global ascendancy.

In this paradigm, it appears that the game has been set in motion, in an unobtrusive way – India and Japan moving close economically and strategically

 

[CCP]

economy : China > Japan + India
military : China >> India + Japan

I don't think India or Japan can benefit form starting a war with China, but you centainly can benefit from doing business with China.

China is helping India to set up its infrastructure at lowest price. electricity, road....etc.

 

[northernarunachalpradesh]

economy : China > Japan + India
military : China >> India + Japan

I don't think India or Japan can benefit form starting a war with China, but you centainly can benefit from doing business with China.

China is helping India to set up its infrastructure at lowest price. electricity, road....etc.

 

[Ray]

economy : China > Japan + India
military : China >> India + Japan

I don't think India or Japan can benefit form starting a war with China, but you centainly can benefit from doing business with China.

China is helping India to set up its infrastructure at lowest price. electricity, road....etc.

Just a small correction.

Actually China is not helping India build her infrastructure.

India is buy the equipment as would any other country buy Chinese equipment and constructing her own infrastructure.

Since India is buying, I don't think China is doing any favour, except to herself whereby they are giving employment to their own people and increasing her economy.