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the Z-10 is a variant of the Dolphin II developed in the PRC
 

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Any update news???

They made a choice to keep the helicopter force under the command of the Army instead of the Airforce. The PLA will operating these Z10 Helicopters.
 

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Looks quite like the Eurocopter Tiger.
 

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Looks similar like Denel AH-2 Rooivalk and Eurocopter Tiger

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reversed enginered:

US helicopter engines missing in Pakistan-Afghanistan: coalition

US helicopter engines missing in Pakistan-Afghanistan: coalition

by Staff Writers
Kabul (AFP) June 18, 2008
The US-led coalition in Afghanistan said on Wednesday that four US helicopter engines worth more than 13 million dollars had gone missing while being transported by a Pakistani truck company.

"Four helicopter engines transported by a Pakistani truck company to Coalition Joint Task Force 101 went missing. The exact location is not determined yet", coalition spokesman Christian Patterson told AFP.

The engines went missing before the 101st Airborne took command of the coalition in Afghanistan on April 11, Patterson said.

"They were being sent from Bagram to Fort Bragg, USA. The collective value of the engines is worth 13.2 million dollars," he added.

The announcement came after a Pakistani newspaper reported that Taliban militants had filmed what it said were stolen parts from US helicopters including a Chinook and a Black Hawk.

The News, an English-language daily, said the Taliban had circulated CDs containing images of the engines, but did not publish any pictures.

International forces in landlocked Afghanistan must transport much of their military equipment overland via neighbouring Pakistan, which itself is a key ally in the US-led "war on terror".

But relations have been strained as Washington and other Western allies put more pressure on Islamabad to crack down on Taliban militants allegedly based in Pakistan's tribal belt bordering Afghanistan.

Ties plummeted to their lowest ebb last week after Pakistan said that a US air strike had killed 11 Pakistani soldiers near the border.

Days later Afghan President Hamid Karzai said that Kabul would be justified in launching attacks on militants on Pakistani soil, provoking an angry response from Islamabad.
 

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Z-10 Attack Helicopter | Military-Today.com

According to this website, the helicopter was designed with help from Eurocopter and Augusta. Also, it says that they have a contract with Pratt & Whitney for the engines, so I doubt the missing Pakistani engines are related to the Z-10.
 
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it says in the article that an indigenous engine would most likely be used for production, pratt and whittney only provided engines for 2 helicopters

The Z-10 is powered by two Canadian Pratt & Whitney PT6C-67C turboshaft engines, delivering 1 531 hp each. However indigenous engines might be used on production helicopters.
 

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China illegally uses Canadian engine for attack helicopter
United Press International-Asia ^ | Oct. 5,2007 | ANDREI CHANG

Posted on Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:43:30 PM by sukhoi-30mki

Analysis: China illegally uses Canadian engine for combat helicopter

HONG KONG, Oct. 5

ANDREI CHANG

Column: Military Might

China has officially released the photo of a mysterious Z-10 combat helicopter that was indigenously developed over a 15-year period. An official brochure on the helicopter shows that the Z-10 uses a PT6C-67C engine imported from Pratt &Whitney Canada.

Although some Western military observers had suspected that China might be attempting to use the PT6C-67C for its Z-10, this official announcement still comes as a surprise. As a military embargo against Beijing has been in place since the 1989 Tiananmen incident, this Canadian engine case may make Washington call for a tighter policy, especially regarding NATO countries.

A source from the P&W said the company did not know anything about the Z-10, claiming that the Chinese purchased its products only for use in civilian helicopters, according to the contract. Those engines were supposed to be used for the development of new 6-ton civilian helicopters and the assembly of AB-139 civilian helicopters. This indicates that China has illegally changed the purpose of the engines from a civilian to a military use.

Western military observers say that China could have manufactured more than eight Z-10s so far. The third one has just completed test flights. China has a plan to purchase more engines, allegedly for the development of new civilian 6-ton helicopters, which will allow them to build at least another seven Z-10s from now.

It is not known yet whether future Z-10s will be manufactured in large batches or will continue to use this imported engine. China may switch to an indigenously developed new engine or an upgraded version of the WZ-9 engine for mass production.

Who else has helped China to develop its Z-10 combat helicopter? An authoritative source from the South African Denel Company said that before 2001, Chinese representatives paid frequent visits to the company. They also invited company staff to visit the Chinese cities of Changhe and Harbin. The Chinese visitors were from the army, the air force and various military industrial enterprises.

"Every time, they requested to look at our Rooivalk combat helicopter. They took away all possible technical materials and took a large number of photos as well as videotapes," the source said. "They also asked so many questions. Their exchanges with us focused on the flight stability and performance features of airborne cannons. We learned from this that the Chinese were experiencing technical difficulties in the design of the Z-10, especially its maneuverability."

In 2001, the Chinese abruptly proposed to purchase one Rooivalk, but the company refused to sell it. "If they needed, they could have paid for formal technical consultation fees," the source said. "Why did they propose to buy only one helicopter? Wasn't it obvious that they intended to thoroughly study the structure of the Rooivalk? We rejected the proposal. After 2001, they never come back to us again."

Where did the Chinese go after 2001? With this question, the author visited Eurocopter Company, where a senior company official claimed, "We can say in a responsible manner that we did not have any contact with the Chinese on the design of the Z-10. The Chinese did not ask us to get involved in the project, and it would have been impossible for us to do so."

The author also visited AgustaWestland Italy. After persistent questioning, a company source acknowledged that they were involved in part of the Z-10 project, but did not reveal any details. In recent years, AgustaWestland has been considered China's closest partner among Western helicopter production enterprises. The two sides have even established a joint venture.

Under cover of jointly producing civilian helicopters, AgustaWestland has very likely given China technical information on the basic redesign of the Z-10. Accordingly, some of the configuration of the Z-10 is very close to AgustaWestland's A-129 combat helicopter. As for the weapon systems on the Z-10, most of them were manufactured in China, including the new HJ-10 anti tank missile and TY-90 air-to-air missile.

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China illegally uses Canadian engine for attack helicopter
 

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Z-10 Attack Helicopter | Military-Today.com

According to this website, the helicopter was designed with help from Eurocopter and Augusta. Also, it says that they have a contract with Pratt & Whitney for the engines, so I doubt the missing Pakistani engines are related to the Z-10.

Similarly I have read in Wikipedia , according to it Eurocopter , Augusta and Pratt & Whitney help was taken during the development of this Helicopter, and even rumored though not confirmed that same powerplant that powers Eurocopter Tiger also selected for it.

Link:

CAIC WZ-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Why does the PLA have to watch India? Why does it have to fear India. As the Chinese say, PLA is very powerful, it has the best weapons, military budget that's many times Indias. It's industrial supply chain is better etc etc.
So what's the need?
 

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dont worry my chinese frnd india defence forces(idf) is also watching pla
 

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China is worried about India and its growth.

Though the Indo US 'Strategic Partnership' is more of Smoke and Mirrors, it nonetheless has China worried since to them it appears that India is in the loop in encircling China along with the US allies in the Pacific rim.
 

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Tells a lot of things about the Chinese who don't stop going to town about their might at the moment. They play psychological games with India in trying to scare it away from it's policies vis a vis China.
But then it knows it has to worry about India and it cannot just sleep over it.
 

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Yusuf,

You must read about the Theory of Legalism that has shaped the Chinese mindset.

And the Strategic game called 'Go'.

The game is played by two players who alternately place black and white stones (playing pieces, now usually made of glass or plastic) on the vacant intersections of a grid of 19×19 lines. The object of the game is to control a larger portion of the board than the opponent. A stone or a group of stones is captured and removed if it has no empty adjacent intersections, the result of being completely surrounded by stones of the opposing color.

Placing stones close together helps them support each other and avoid capture. On the other hand, placing stones far apart creates influence across more of the board. Part of the strategic difficulty of the game stems from finding a balance between such conflicting interests. Players strive to serve both defensive and offensive purposes and choose between tactical urgency and strategic plans.

Read their history and you will see how they have annexed territory and Hanised them to form what is called China as is today. They are at this game in Tibet and Xinjiang.

My external hard disk has details but it is not here as my house is being renovated. However, read this:
http://dutchexpat.blogspot.com/2008/08/ancient-china-barbarians.html

I will post later the ethnoculture aspects and how the Hans considered everyone else as barbarian. Those who were converted to Hanism were called cooked barbarians and those who did not change were called raw barbarians.

Try this as starters:
http://www.globaloriental.co.uk/IA108.asp

The barbarians were taken to be like animals and so the Hans suffixed their names with some low down animal to indicate their characteristics as assumed by the Hans.
http://books.google.com/books?id=r4...hL3-Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1
 

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one thing i also like to add that china is creating problems to all its neighbouring countries by arming north korea it has created problem for south korea and japan and by arming pakistan it has created problems for india so my frnd all neighbouring countries like japan,south korea india and also usa is watching china
 

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Chinese checkers Sir?
Logic of the game applied to strategic and political sphere.

Time India played Chess with them. But then again I have come across some Chinese claiming Chess to be a Chinese invention.
 

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well the chinces can watch all they want
 

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If you observe all the picture of truck are taken form the front, I believe this photos were pre-planned and taken with concent.
 

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