It seems unfair to you, but that's the way the real world works.
I'm not feeling unfair because of P5. I'm feeling unfair because of our so called peaceful socialist government who kicked out the opportunities knocking the door. Seat was offered in 50s and we could do test of 60s before CTBT which our peaceful PM Nehru Ji denied. The country who was bigger, stronger and was winning war suddenly goes to UN for help because it has goodwill of peace.
Power is held by the permanent members of the United Nations Security Council.
They hold power because they were powerful during formation of UNSC.
Keeping in mind new strategic balance of world, India definitely deserves to join them. But unfortunately some rules and regulations are stopping as of now.
As India grows, we will be able to crush them later.
A UNCLOS ruling likely means it's binding on India, which is a small country.
FYI, a country with area of more than 3.87 square kilometers isn't categorized as a small country, it's huge.
Yes, China may be 3 times bigger indeed. In search of small countries, you can go to UK and France.
And if
largeness of the country is determined by disobeying Internationally imposed law,
India has defied sanctions on Iran and Iraq, resolutions on Kashmir and did nuclear tests when we were a pathetically weak entity.
And we have got our status only higher and higher since then.
You have yourself said:
China has a massive military. China's conventional army is unstoppable on land. China also has a huge thermonuclear-armed Second Artillery (e.g DF-5 A/B ICBMs, DF-31 A/B ICBMs, DF-41 ICBMs, JL-2 SLBMs, with JL-3 SLBM in development and DF-ZF hypersonic glide vehicles).
Indian military and economy is already sizeable and growing at rapid pace.
You are saying you disobeyed UNCLOS on the basis of power, what you made to think that India won't do the same?
However, a large country like China (which is the world's second-largest in land area) can veto any UN ruling that it doesn't like and this includes the stupid opinion from The Hague.
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So, communists are today in mood of boasting of their
largeness? :biggrin2:Won't even bother, my country is fairly large to satisfy me.
Though, contradicting you as well, because India too has stronger attributes than Canada, Brazil and Australia (large countries) in many aspects.
There is also a country called Argentina with size close to India.
Now, you can compare if Argentina comes anywhere close to India in economy, military, space tech, R&D or even politically.
Earlier, you suggested India will one day achieve a permanent veto at the UNSC. I strongly disagree.
Firstly, India has been chasing that dream for decades. To no avail.
We are chasing many dreams from years.
We came closer every year, we got success in some, got closer to some and failed in some and tried them again.
As happened in MTCR and NSG, we got one but also failed to get other and we are pitching for it again.
We offered a pie of nuclear market to China which they denied. We will try something else later.
We took a decade to make pathetic helo,(then developed a series), from pathetic warship building capability to 5th largest Navy and from the sounding rocket to LVM3.
We have got miles ahead but we still have to go miles ahead in journey and we will go. Our dreams and we are chasing them, you must have no problem.
Just defend your interests instead of urging us.: P
Secondly, India needs China's approval. As you saw with the NSG, I don't think India can ever obtain China's consent. China's permanent veto at the UNSC can prevent India from ever achieving a similar veto.
Here, I would agree to some extent, China gonna try to block India till last (looks that obsession has mutual effect
), but that needs an argument.
Strategic balance of South Asia won't be working here, India has own path and no responsibility for partitioned (aka self determining) People of Pakistan and Bangladesh. :biggrin2:.
So, it can only whin about NPT(what it did in case of NSG.)
India is hesitating from signing NPT because it doesn't recognize countries as nuclear states who have done nuclear tests after 1967(So, it would snatch India's nuclear weapons).
China knows it and deliberately brought NPT in picture.
But we won't compromise with national assets. A third world world weak country could get NSG wavier in 2008. So, a stronger entity too can get wavier in NPT
specially for India to be recognized as a great power like P5 members. After being only member recognized as nuclear power without veto, it won't be difficult to get the veto.
And if not, India won't follow decisions against it's interests. Besides that, rest of G4 countries will too remain significant economic powers as that France, UK and Russia, Japan is even rearming itself.
Even G4 could be an influential entity like P5.
I have got many projections for Economic outputs in future.
Posting one of them. You can put yours. But even that will projecting India at second or third.
Nominal
PPP
And in present, India can even bargain MTCR for NSG.
Well, here in India, government is promising for NSG seat by year end.
I don't know what they gonna do or if they can do anyhow as of current scenario I can see.