China is already testing it's answer to global hawk?

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It is pretty natty.
 

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True. The design of this latest UAV is unlike anything the US has fielded or under testing. It's a revolutionary wing design and favorably shows the technical skills of the Chinese. If you ask me, it only adds to the uncertainty that the Chinese is fostering accross the region. What else coulde they be hiding under their vast but tightly controlled territory? Are their game changing toys that could seriously upset the current balamnce of power? That in turn might give the Chinese generals that little bit of extra confidence just enough to hudge them to attack Taiwan...
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Taiwan seems like a done deal to me. Just look at NATO and Libya and how ineffective they are. A quick 2,000 point drop in the DOW will convince the powers that be in the US to stay out of an unnecessary war with China over an insignificant island. And I say this as a US/Taiwan dual citizen.
Seriously, Its a Drone and we expected this..

Global hawk or UACV like predator were long projected by Chinese..

But this doesn't change anything yet..

China don't want to attack Taiwan at all..
 

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Chinese military strategy seems to be centered around very careful study all US military engagements and see how the US uses technology and then to try to buy, borrow, steal or develop it locally as fast as possible.

When the Chinese saw how the USAF and USN, and US land based assets were all networked in Bosnia - they jumped on networking their military assests. The they jumped on stealth aircraft after seeing the F-22.
Now after hearing from the Pakistani brothers how effective US drone strikes are in Pak....they are trying to match the US in drone technology.

I guess it makes perfect sense - watch the leader and learn.
 

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Chinese military strategy seems to be centered around very careful study all US military engagements and see how the US uses technology and then to try to buy, borrow, steal or develop it locally as fast as possible.

When the Chinese saw how the USAF and USN, and US land based assets were all networked in Bosnia - they jumped on networking their military assests. The they jumped on stealth aircraft after seeing the F-22.
Now after hearing from the Pakistani brothers how effective US drone strikes are in Pak....they are trying to match the US in drone technology.

I guess it makes perfect sense - watch the leader and learn.

During 50s and 60s China gain lots of tech and learn abt western doctrine..

Since 90s they implemented these Ideas to perfection and results are impressive..

They know what is good and bad and took it from both sides, Right now they are wanna be..

One in particular is Ballistic anti-ship Missile is pure Chinese Idea, Though their are Naval BMD system are there on east also in west..
 

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During 50s and 60s China gain lots of tech and learn abt western doctrine..

Since 90s they implemented these Ideas to perfection and results are impressive..

They know what is good and bad and took it from both sides, Right now they are wanna be..

One in particular is Ballistic anti-ship Missile is pure Chinese Idea, Though their are Naval BMD system are there on east also in west..

The biggest worry about using ballistic missiles as anti-ship weapons has always been the danger that the lunch of these missiles might be mistakenly construed as a nuclear ballistic missile lunch and the other side my retaliate in kind triggering a catasthrophic nuclear war. This is because the trajectory of ballistic missiles are peculiar to such weapons. I don't know if the Chinese anti-ship ballsitic missiles suffer from the same danger, if so, can the US use this as a threat to retaliate by means of nuclear strikes if they detect a Chinese ballistic missile lunch against any of its Task Force, if only to stifle to operational application of this novel Chinese weapons system?
 

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The biggest worry about using ballistic missiles as anti-ship weapons has always been the danger that the lunch of these missiles might be mistakenly construed as a nuclear ballistic missile lunch and the other side my retaliate in kind triggering a catasthrophic nuclear war. This is because the trajectory of ballistic missiles are peculiar to such weapons. I don't know if the Chinese anti-ship ballsitic missiles suffer from the same danger, if so, can the US use this as a threat to retaliate by means of nuclear strikes if they detect a Chinese ballistic missile lunch against any of its Task Force, if only to stifle to operational application of this novel Chinese weapons system?
As i said before, China is practically trying to keep up with US..

As not only China study US activity, We need to see how US chose its wars..

China does in similar fashion..

The only problem is some PLA generals and Admirals got big mouths..
 

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Too bad real life doesn't work that way. If you're the POTUS, life is good. You've got a 747 for a private jet, fleet of cars, great chefs, kids in private school. Why would start a nuclear war with China over a sunken aircraft carrier and live in a bunker for the rest of your life. You don't.

The biggest worry about using ballistic missiles as anti-ship weapons has always been the danger that the lunch of these missiles might be mistakenly construed as a nuclear ballistic missile lunch and the other side my retaliate in kind triggering a catasthrophic nuclear war. This is because the trajectory of ballistic missiles are peculiar to such weapons. I don't know if the Chinese anti-ship ballsitic missiles suffer from the same danger, if so, can the US use this as a threat to retaliate by means of nuclear strikes if they detect a Chinese ballistic missile lunch against any of its Task Force, if only to stifle to operational application of this novel Chinese weapons system?
 

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Too bad real life doesn't work that way. If you're the POTUS, life is good. You've got a 747 for a private jet, fleet of cars, great chefs, kids in private school. Why would start a nuclear war with China over a sunken aircraft carrier and live in a bunker for the rest of your life. You don't.
The sort of miscalculation that might just bring us to that dreaded scenario we did not experience during the last Cold War...
 

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Actually, it is not just an aircraft carrier, it's legally and politically a piece of American territory...
 

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The sort of miscalculation that might just bring us to that dreaded scenario we did not experience during the last Cold War...
That's not how realpolitik works. The elites on both sides just have too much to lose. The Chinese official wants to keep his 3 mistresses and the American guy wants to summer on Martha's Vineyard. Worst thing that will happen is the US will sink a Chinese carrier and they will agree beforehand to call it even. Then both sides will back off, while the clueless masses in both countries are still screaming for war.
 

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America isnt going to loose its Martha's wineyard in a long shot, if anything it is an over -exggeration by the Chinese themselves of their nuclear capability. USA is a country which was configured to go MAD with USSR and survive, Chinese with their 500 nukes, even send 5 nukes USA's way ( which will be taken care by their BMD's), China will cease to exist. You are talking about the USA, Nukes will fly from all over the world, heck they might be already in place in China under Hu Jinato's bed's and inside Mao's disgusted coffin. Lil Chicoms trying to big boy's of the world with some old soviet tech.
 

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Seriously, Its a Drone and we expected this..

Global hawk or UACV like predator were long projected by Chinese..

But this doesn't change anything yet..

China don't want to attack Taiwan at all..
Drone is just the smallest part of the whole idea of UCAV or UAV, it is the network. America is light years ahead.
 

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Drone is just the smallest part of the whole idea of UCAV or UAV, it is the network. America is light years ahead.
I a meant we knew abt it long time ago, And this development is no surprise..

Their are lots of other things too..
 

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Here comes the clueless masses...

America isnt going to loose its Martha's wineyard in a long shot, if anything it is an over -exggeration by the Chinese themselves of their nuclear capability. USA is a country which was configured to go MAD with USSR and survive, Chinese with their 500 nukes, even send 5 nukes USA's way ( which will be taken care by their BMD's), China will cease to exist. You are talking about the USA, Nukes will fly from all over the world, heck they might be already in place in China under Hu Jinato's bed's and inside Mao's disgusted coffin. Lil Chicoms trying to big boy's of the world with some old soviet tech.
 

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Offtopic ..

He is not clueless..

You are.. !

They care abt their soldiers not like Chinese..

If war occur US will put JDAM on your heads, will strip u down completely Naked ! TAKE my Words for It !!

They don't have any care for your kind, They will wipe you out, Now thats conventional or Nuking..

Dont bother to reply..

That's not how realpolitik works. The elites on both sides just have too much to lose. The Chinese official wants to keep his 3 mistresses and the American guy wants to summer on Martha's Vineyard. Worst thing that will happen is the US will sink a Chinese carrier and they will agree beforehand to call it even. Then both sides will back off, while the clueless masses in both countries are still screaming for war.
Too bad real life doesn't work that way. If you're the POTUS, life is good. You've got a 747 for a private jet, fleet of cars, great chefs, kids in private school. Why would start a nuclear war with China over a sunken aircraft carrier and live in a bunker for the rest of your life. You don't.
Here comes the clueless masses...
 

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Offtopic ..

He is not clueless..

You are.. !

They care abt their soldiers not like Chinese..

If war occur US will put JDAM on your heads, will strip u down completely Naked ! TAKE my Words for It !!

They don't have any care for your kind, They will wipe you out, Now thats conventional or Nuking..

Dont bother to reply..
do you have any idea about nuclear winter? i highly doubt average indians would stand a chance to survive if china is completely destroyed.
 

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it's refreshing to see there are still chaps that think they can win a nuclear war, lol
 

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do you have any idea about nuclear winter? i highly doubt average indians would stand a chance to survive if china is completely destroyed.
Actually nothing stands without protection from Nuclear fall out, Nuke winter comes at very last..

And We Indian don't have to be concerns much, We live far from Pacific and Japan..

Do you have any Idea abt the type and the grade used by USN based in Okinawa ?

Besides we live under Nuke thread 24x7 from our friends , No surprise for us, But what abt u ?

it's refreshing to see there are still chaps that think they can win a nuclear war, lol
US does..

Only If u can hit mainland US in large, Once the War starts their is no stopping until one cease to exist..

In this case China will as Adux said it can be under Hu Jinato's bed's and inside Mao's disgusted coffin..
 
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There is only one country in this world, which can win a Nuclear war with another one, that is USA. USA is technologically and numerical the superior force by decades.
 

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sure.....US could have wiped out parts of PRC in korean war but just they didnt (soviet union didnt have effective nukes back then and china cant even attack US bases in japan)...the US could have wiped the whole PRC in vietnam war but just they didnt (soviet union already had wars with PRC so they wouldnt back PRC up).

the US can wipe out either iran or north korea in convential way without the need of using nukes now and they just dont.........

americans just aint that dumb as some might think.........taiwan is just a minor issue for the US but a big issue for chinese.....the US will use taiwan as much as possible.....but a nuke war with PRC coz of taiwan???...trying to make russia the next sole power in the world or what????
 

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