China, instigator, motivator and benificiary of Pak "Jihad" against US

[Ray]

the US is really baffling everybody. Pakistan is such an important ally for the US grand game plan not only in Afghanistan and Iran, but also for keeping India in check. But the US / NATO still added fuel to Pak's anti-America sentiments again and again, this time right after China Pak's joint military exercise.

By the way Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood is reported to lead the upcoming election with likely 30% votes. So, the US and Israel will taste the pill called Jihad again, after their friend Mubarak was dumped.

Actually, while we think Pakistan is a rudderless country meandering into nowhere, maybe they do so with a design.

On its own, it neither has the money or manufacturing skills to remain relevant in the world.

Therefore, could they be playing all parties in the global game of supremacy and milking them all to remain afloat economically and militarily?

They are themselves protecting and nurturing the terrorist so that there is this worldwide threat. They are keeping Afghanistan terrorism alive to milk the US dry. They are keeping China active in Xinjiang so that China does not take them (Pakistan) for granted and instead woo them so that they keep the Pakistani terrorists in check and also be relevant to China, by keeping India active on the western borders so that India cannot concentrate in Ladakh and its North Eastern frontiers.

As far as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, like it or not, Islam is on the rise.

 

[Virendra]

Working out pretty well for them. A disgusting way to live, but never the less a way.

 

[johnee]

Pakistan is indeed playing all sides. But, the end game is near with various players realising that they were played. But for pak to be doomed, GOI must stop throwing a lifeline to them.

Islam is not on rise. These things always existed. They are now coming into open. There is a chance that threatened kafirs will try to neutralise it.

 

[Ray]

I maybe wrong, but so long Oil is the lifeblood of the world, Islam would never be threatened by the so called kaffirs.

 

[johnee]

I maybe wrong, but so long Oil is the lifeblood of the world, Islam would never be threatened by the so called kaffirs.

Ironically, the same Oil may attract kaffir attention and assault.

If oil was not the lifeblood and if islam were not powerful and aggressive, then kaffirs wouldnt care for islam. Of course, certain kaffirs would try to 'harvest souls'.

 

[Virendra]

I agree, Oil is deeply entwined with the fate of Islam or at least of its reach in politics.
It seems like a double edged sword. It has helped Islamic countries till date and also attracted trouble.
Most interesting would be to know when this Oil (in Muslims hands) would near depletion? And what will happen after that?
uhh ... I guess we should go back to the focal point of this thread - China.

Regards,
Virendra

 

[Iamanidiot]

I maybe wrong, but so long Oil is the lifeblood of the world, Islam would never be threatened by the so called kaffirs.

Brigadier of the sama bheda dandopayas the danda might also be used

 

[Iamanidiot]

the US is really baffling everybody. Pakistan is such an important ally for the US grand game plan not only in Afghanistan and Iran, but also for keeping India in check. But the US / NATO still added fuel to Pak's anti-America sentiments again and again, this time right after China Pak's joint military exercise.

By the way Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood is reported to lead the upcoming election with likely 30% votes. So, the US and Israel will taste the pill called Jihad again, after their friend Mubarak was dumped.

Pakistan cannot exactly keep India in Check .What it can do is keep exactly the Chinese and Russians out of the IOR..Pakistan's aim is global jihad not anti-india or pro-china.Read about taqqiya more

 

[Yusuf]

Thread going OT, but Oil producing countries like KSA in firm pockets of west. West buys oil, KSA buys militray stuff from west with that money. Win win. West says nothing about the regime and it's atrocities/ lack of democracy.

 

[rock127]

if u look at the NATO attack on pak, china definitely comes out as the biggest beneficiary out of it, they are trying to use pakistan as a proxy just as US uses israel....and pakistan is perfect for them to counter both US and India.......thats why it was once said by pundit Nehru, China needs pakistan so badly that if there was not a pakistan, they had to create one.......

This proxy stuff reminds me of the movie Vastav starring Sanjay Dutt... we all know what happened to him at the end... same fate awaits for the entities which allow themselves to be used.Pakistan is slowly losing control on it's territory... first Bangladesh and now Balochistan, FATA etc etc are in the waitlist.

First US used Pak and now abusing it... now China is taking the oppurtunity and the same story may happen in future.

 

[tony4562]

The logic applied here is faulty to say the least. The parties likely to benefit from US-Pak fallout would be the following:

India
Taliban
Extremists inside and outside Pakistan


See my reasoning in the other thread for explaination.

 

[Ray]

India will surely benefit.

And Pakistan lose out because the money will dry up and so will the military supplies, both being life support to Pakistan.

China understands the value of money and so will not replicate the US munificence.

As the American say - Tough Tittie!

 

[lemontree]

china definitely comes out as the biggest beneficiary out of it, they are trying to use pakistan as a proxy just as US uses israel...

Israel is no ones proxy. US only supports them.

thats why it was once said by pundit Nehru, China needs pakistan so badly that if there was not a pakistan, they had to create one.....

When did Nehru say this??...if Nehru could think on these lines, we would have never had the '62 debacle.