China Has Plans For Five Carriers

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China's shipbuilding industry is literally light years ahead of Russia at the moment
Joke of the day. What's sad is that you actually believe it.

Any ideas why 5 carriers? I mean you are not an island and thus have all oceans. Are you planning to put everything in South and East China Seas and by extension in Pacific Ocean?
China has the superpower syndrome. They want a supercarrier in every ocean, just like USN does.
 

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Joke of the day. What's sad is that you actually believe it.
It is partly true and partly false. China can build hulls faster and cheaper than anyone. Fitting them out is another issue.
 

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It is partly true and partly false. China can build hulls faster and cheaper than anyone. Fitting them out is another issue.
China's civilian shipbuilding capacity is 10X times more than Russia.

China can build many high-tech civilian ships which russian can not build at all,such as LNG.
 

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China's civilian shipbuilding capacity is 10X times more than Russia.

China can build many high-tech civilian ships which russian can not build at all,such as LNG.
You mean the LNG that you got license production from FRANCE! lol
 

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You mean the LNG that you got license production from FRANCE! lol
well, can France build LNG?....ah? you should google it first!
the manufacturing of LNG ship was ruled by Japan and S.Korea recently...but now CHina now has gradually overthrew the rule..

Before China started manufacturing LNG ship, France shipbuilding had been asskicked by Japan's and S.korea's and driven out of the ship-manufacturing.
 
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We Indians for example just concern ourselves to our ancestral territories spanning from Afghanistan to Indonesia as once "greater India" as well as the Indian Ocean. ......As long as South and Southeast Asia, which happen to be our ancestral territorial strongholds (you could say via culture, faith, common concepts etc), is in our pocket, we don't care if China wanted to rule over Honolulu in Hawaii.
What a dumb comment, what India is some kind of daddy? Treat other nations like a grown ass man, not a little brother or child.


Chinese has over thousand years experience how to manage asia, they did very well before, and will do better in future.
How exactly have China been managing Asia for thousands of years? Middle east, S. Asia, East Asia,South East Asia, etc were all doing their own thing. China wasn't managing shit. There was no true super power back in those times like USA today.
 
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well, can France build LNG?....ah? you should google it first!
If you buy the license from us, obviously we already did. France owns the worlds largest utility company and the largest LNG company in the world, which just happens to be the #2 utility company in the world. France is the undisputed leader in LNG transport and production, not to mention utilities in general.

the manufacturing of LNG ship was ruled by Japan and S.Korea recently...but now CHina now has gradually overthrew the rule..
That is good that you rule it as France supplies many key components and technical support for Chinese LNG carriers. Your building is our gain. Not that you are anywhere close to taking the LNG carrier record. St. Nazaire has built 20 LNG carriers while China has built 5.

Before China started manufacturing LNG ship, France shipbuilding had been asskicked by Japan's and S.korea's and driven out of the ship-manufacturing.
So we get you to make the hull while we fit it out. Works for me. I hope you dominate the world. lol
 

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China near restoring Soviet-era aircraft carrier: Report

After unveiling its first stealth jet recently, China has almost finished restoring a Soviet-era aircraft carrier, which will be used for operations and as a model for its indigenously built ship in future.

China has completed the major steps required to fully restore a partially built aircraft carrier purchased from Ukraine in 1998, Chinese state-run Global Times reported quoting Hong Kong based media reports.

Also China reportedly bought Russian SU-33 carrier-based fighters and has modified domestic J-11 jets for carrier landings and take-offs.

The aircraft carrier, Varyag, is being worked on at a shipyard in Dalian, Liao-ning Province.

All the living and work compartments, engines, navigation systems and power-generating equipment were restored, according to the report.

Virtually confirming the reports, Chinese military sources told Global Times that many foreign media reports about China's plan to build an aircraft carrier are based on satellite images, and those reports may not be completely wrong.

Li Jie, a researcher at the Naval Research Institute in the People's Liberation Army (PLA) said the visible parts of the aircraft carrier, such as the radar system and the communication equipment, could be seen by a satellite.

"The construction of an aircraft carrier always follows a certain procedure, so the completion time could be deduced from the visible parts on the deck," Li said.

"In 2009, China put forward a plan and a program for building an aircraft carrier," an official report said.

The report by China's Ocean Development Report (2010), a book published in May by the State Oceanic Administration which is under the Ministry of Land and Resources, said that "this shows that China has started entering a new historic era of comprehensively building itself into a great naval power."

Some reports said that the carrier could become operational by July this year coinciding with the 90th anniversary celebrations of the ruling Communist Party of China, (CPC).

He Jun, a senior researcher at the Anbound Information Group in an article, said that the maintenance and usage of aircraft carriers cost 5.5 times more than the construction cost.

Li Jie said that aircraft carriers have strategic significance for a growing power such as China.

"Just like what Defence Minister Liang Guanglie said, the fact that China does not have its own aircraft carriers won't last forever," Li said, adding China needs carriers to carry out marine missions and develop marine interests.

Two weeks ago China conducted maiden test run of its J-20 stealth fighter coinciding with the visit of US Defence Secretary Robert Gates to Beijing.

The fighter makes China the second country after US to have a stealth aircraft which has the ability to evade radars.


http://www.brahmand.com/news/China-near-restoring-Soviet-era-aircraft-carrier-Report/6130/1/10.html
 

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If the news is true then China is also slowly opening up to the world with their military advances.
 

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well i dont know what we are wating for

just wating and watching

to dangerous for indian security
 

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Only when they are used to bully small or mid-size countries,can aircraft carriers be a useful assets.

During the war among major powers such as USA, RUssia and CHina, AC fleet would be a liabilities,instead of one useful assets . During such a show-hands,the decisive sea force would be stealth warships such as subs.


it is stupid for CHina to maintain overone dozen AC like USA.
 

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Only when they are used to bully small or mid-size countries,can aircraft carriers be a useful assets.

During the war among major powers such as USA, RUssia and CHina, AC fleet would be a liabilities,instead of one useful assets . During such a show-hands,the decisive sea force would be stealth warships such as subs.


it is stupid for CHina to maintain overone dozen AC like USA.
Long range nuclear capable bombers would play a far more vital role than nuclear subs.
 

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What is the envisaged employment (tasks) for these 5 carriers?

Obviously, the numbers would be based on tasks envisaged.
 

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What is the envisaged employment (tasks) for these 5 carriers?

Obviously, the numbers would be based on tasks envisaged.
maybe 2 will be active, 2 in a rest and one in shipyard.
 

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maybe 2 will be active, 2 in a rest and one in shipyard.
That would be physical employment and quite valid.

The tasks (tactical and strategic)? Obviously, one would not know, but what is generally visualised including if there are some links.
 

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That would be physical employment and quite valid.

The tasks (tactical and strategic)? Obviously, one would not know, but what is generally visualised including if there are some links.
well, the main duty of PLA AC groups would be expell Somalia pirates,bully titman states around South China sea,show mussle during the qurral with Japan,paradrop rescue team during disasters.
 

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Only when they are used to bully small or mid-size countries,can aircraft carriers be a useful assets.

During the war among major powers such as USA, RUssia and CHina, AC fleet would be a liabilities,instead of one useful assets . During such a show-hands,the decisive sea force would be stealth warships such as subs.


it is stupid for CHina to maintain overone dozen AC like USA.
It is stupid to control the surface of the ocean? It is stupid to have air superiority? It is stupid to have a mobile airbase that can strike 90% of the world's population? Once you control the surface, submarines become targets. That is why Russia's carrier only has one priority, to keep US aircraft off their submarines. If you lose surface and air control, your subs won't even know where to go hunting.
 

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It is stupid to control the surface of the ocean? It is stupid to have air superiority? It is stupid to have a mobile airbase that can strike 90% of the world's population? Once you control the surface, submarines become targets. That is why Russia's carrier only has one priority, to keep US aircraft off their submarines. If you lose surface and air control, your subs won't even know where to go hunting.
You remind me Japs in WWII, they believed battle ship would always be the final solution, so they spent loads of money and time to build 2 biggest the world has ever seem. And every one knows those 2 did literary nothing before they were sunk.
 

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