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China steel production, almost equal to rest of world. China export less than 10% of steel, so it closely consumes half of world steel.
China is currently expanding infrastracture. Rails, subway, highway. Read another table more than 50% expanding of rail way system is planned(Can't find it). Reorganize of cities, tearing old buildings down, building new ones in a more scientific way. And there is still potential. Big country big population. People need to see it to understand.
 

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Just a question Arnand...what's the point of the high speeds if it's only useful in tests?
China has the fastest operational link-up between major cities that provides real benefit to customers.

"By comparison, the average for high-speed trains in Japan was 243 kilometres per hour while in France it was 277 kilometres per hour, said Xu Fangliang, general engineer in charge of designing the link, according to Xinhua."

China unveils 'world's fastest train link' - Yahoo! News
Badguy was claiming Chinese railtech was above France, it isn't. They don't even make the rolling stock much less completing the lines without Euro help. The Guangzhou to Wuhan only reaches 313km/h for commercial service, the 350 was only a test. TGV Lille to Marseille averages 317km/h so all those claims are false about it being the fastest line in the world, much less the fastest train which TGV beats by 200km/h. France's national average speed is misleading, highspeed passenger service is conducted during the day while the slower freight is carried at night. The freight cars are quite a bit slower so it brings down the total average. China has practically no highspeed freight lines to bring down their average so the comparison is misleading when talking about the vast expanse of French TGV lines.
 

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Paper no. 3572 28-Dec-2009

China’s Intellectual Dilemma of Capitalist Label

By Dr. Sheo Nandan Pandey

Introduction

The People’s Republic of China (PRC) has discernibly climbed up from nearly desolate economic player to a reckonable power in the last three decades. This was seen most strikingly, when it dumped log, stock and barrel the developmental paradigm of the yesteryears beginning Oct 1, 1949.

The cliché “Reforms and opening up” has proved an all purpose vehicle for earthshaking changes in Chinese domestic and foreign policy instruments across ideological frontiers. Seemingly the tough task of repudiating the long hailed glorious ‘socialist” past and appreciating the long deviled ‘capitalist’ present of while holding fast to the mandate for the former was done with relative ease. The cliché ‘Socialism with Chinese Characteristics’ (zhongguo tese de shehuizhui) and/ or ‘Socialist Market Economy with Chinese Characteristics’ (zhongguo tese de shehuizhui shichangjingji) has gone down well to keep intact their credentials of adherents of ‘Marxism-Leninism and Mao Zedong Thoughts’.[ii]

There have been constant debates in the intellectual circles, both inside and outside the Chinese establishments. Hard core work, devoted to Deng Xiaoping’s theory (deng xiaoping lilun) of building socialism with Chinese characteristics (jianshe zhongguo tese shehuizhuyi) find discernible gaps in Deng Xiaoping’s initial and subsequent assertions. In all, Deng Xiaoping kept on shedding his ambivalence. While quite a few works credit him for providing ‘ideological legitimacy for the reform and modernization’ of the Chinese economy, he had his own doubts about the compatibility of the concept when he issued the clarion call: “watch out for the Right, but mainly defend against the left (yao jinti “you”, dan zhuyao sh fangzhi “zuo”. Deng Xiaoping had his doubt about the soundness of the epistemological foundation of his theory or else why should he go on promoting “no debate theory” (bu zhenglun lun) on the issue of capitalist/ socialist nature of his prescription for Chinese ills? While the probity of the Deng Xiaoping’s prescription of China’s ills stands largely testified, the debate is still inconclusive. It has of late been sparked by China weathering the storm of global financial crisis and economic down turn better in the home turf of Deng Xiaoping’s prescription. Four articles in the “Study Times” (xuexi shipbao), the mouth piece of the Party School of the Communist Party of China (CPC) cautioned against the term “China Model”, finding currency in the world media while eulogizing China’s stunning economic performance.

The alternatives, suggested thus far, included “Chinese Characteristics”, “Chinese Case”, “China’s Experience” and “China’s Model has its Costs”. While innocuous, each of these alternatives appears to carry predicaments of the authors. There are then studies that variously put Deng Xiaoping’s prescription and its on ground implementation little different from being a crony capitalism.

The irony is that the Chinese ideologues themselves tend to vary widely in their choice to find a suitable terminology to characterize China’s case. Of the four contributors, Li Junru and Zhao Qizheng hold positions in China’s top statutory advisory body, the Chinese people’s Political Consultative Conference (CPPPCC). Li Junru happened to be the former Vice Principal of the Party school, while Zhao Qizheng earlier worked as the Director of the State Council Information Office. Shi Xuehua is currently working as a professor at the School of Political Science and International Studies under Beijing Normal University. Qiu Gengtian is again a professor at the Department of Philosophy under the Party School.

As the four articles in question have been published in a party mouth piece and at a time when the Chinese economy was witnessing the best of times and the worst of times, it is but likely that the move is aimed at getting the public mood. In the changed scenario, one must not expect the history of the 1956-1957 “let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought” (baihua jifang; baijia zhengming) campaign repeat itself and prove an entrapment.[iii] This is while the context is not materially much different. One does not expect the four ideologues to suffer the fate of Liu Xiaobo either.[iv]

The paper goes to delve into the factors agitating the minds of the Chinese intellectuals, and underline their worst fears, if any. The Deng Xiaoping prescription has discernibly worked well in getting China jump its ranking as an economic world power. However, the instruments, brought to bear upon to achieve the avowed aims and objectives, in particular the reliance on high investment to GDP ratio strategy, has turned out to be shaky, if not outright unsound. Global financial crisis and economic down turn has just been a touch stone. Where it relates to social impact, measured variously in terms of equality/ inequality yardstick, the Chinese developmental paradigm turned counter to all solemn pre suppositions.[v] The phenomenon, in fact, has cast a shadow over the socialist credentials of the PRC.

The study, in its perspective, brings out the objective realities of the Chinese case. Schematically, it focusses on: Views and Stand of the Chinese Ideologues; System Chinks and Weaklinks; and, the Horizon of New Vision and Approach. The assumptions include: China’s development as a reckonable economic world power draws on ‘reforms and opening up; China’s policy shifts have played catalyst role both in the glide over to prosperity and a drift from socialist egalitarian principles; and, the Chinese experiments suffer the glitches and hence, it is long where after it can set examples worth emulation.

Views and Stand of the Chinese Opinion Makers

Li Junru stands by the expression "Chinese characteristics" to "China model”. The term “Model”, as Li Junru argues, implies a “set pattern or formula”. To his fears, “China model” would, thus, mean that “China has formed a set pattern or formula”. He is explicit in acknowledging that “China’s system has not yet completely formalized and continues to explore forward (womende tizhi hai mei you wanquan dingxing, hai zai jixu tansuo). People thinking of “models” are said to fall into the category of stereotypes. Li Junru called the terminology dangerous as it could lead China to complacence and turn into a blind optimist. It held the prospect of “shifting the direction of reforms” as well. "Chinese characteristics", says Li Junru “refers to the process of the formation of socialist development with Chinese characteristics of the institutional mechanisms for their own”.

Zhao Qizheng believed that "Chinese model" is not the right term. He preferred the term "Chinese case". The word "model", wrote Zhao Qizheng, “denotes a certain kind of particular example, which China does not yet have.” Zhao Qizheng has some more reasons. The article said, "We should be very cautious when we use the phrase 'China Model'. Personally, I prefer 'Chinese Case' to 'China Model'. I think 'Chinese Case' is a summary of China's social development ideas, policies, practices, fruits and problems in the 60 years since the new China was founded, especially in the 30 years since the reform and opening-up started. Besides, we should also emphasize that the 'case' is still going and developing now." China does not have the plan to export the so-called "Chinese model". Some developing countries may consult on certain methods that China has adopted, and at the same time China may refer to some methods used by western countries in their social and economic development, said Zhao Qizheng. China is still in the primary stage of socialism and has a long way to improve itself, Zhao Qizheng said. He also pointed out that perhaps when the country reaches the standard of moderately-developed countries in the future, he can really understand what a "Chinese model" is.

Zhao Qizheng fears are equally important. He quotes Western writings which speak of 21st century as an epoch belonging to China or Asian countries as the 19th and 20th centuries were marked as the era for British and American supremacy. While gleeful to the comparison, he turns defensive in reflex as the terminology carried connotation of China then treading the hegemonic path. Zhao Qizheng argues: “ China has no intention of exporting the "China model." Exporting the "China model" goes against the Chinese principle of making policies in accordance with our national conditions. We hold that any developing country, including China, should develop correct policies based on their national conditions…………China has no wish or desire to become a superpower. With its growing comprehensive national power, China is willing to assume international responsibilities in line with its national strength.

Shi Xuehua believed that it was yet too early to use the term "China Model." At present, it is more scientific and reasonable to call the development experience and the road with Chinese characteristics "China's experience" or "China's development road" rather than "China Model" because it will leave room for the "China's experience" or "China's development road" to develop into the "China Model" in the future. He cites the examples of the "British model" and "French model", where the former relied on progressive social reform, while the latter treaded to radical political revolution. Shi Xuehua holds that China’s experiences cannot yet be defined as a model, first, because, for one thing, it's still uncertain whether the experiences of the early part of China's successful reform and opening-up can go on sustaining China's future success. Secondly, while the experience and path of China's reform and opening-up possessed Chinese characteristics, it yet lacked unique features of a generalized concept to be a model. Shi Xuehua has conceded that the primary reason for China's success is the authoritarian leadership of the Party and the government, combined with the reforms advocated by them.

Qiu Gengtian held that China's current priority constituted of ‘scientific development’. He pointed out that China encountered a series of very serious problems in development and paid a heavy price while achieving progress. Crises exist even though China has entered a "flourishing age." China's development is based on high costs. If the high costs for development are included into the "China Model," it indicates to a large extent that such a "China Model" is not mature and consummate. Therefore, the model does not have value serving as a model and being popularized widely. If the high costs are not included however, it shows that such a "China Model" is one-sided and does not correspond to reality.

System Chinks and Weaklings

China’s intellectual dilemma on the issue does not call for formal null hypothesis tests. The mere fact that the four ideologues did not agree to one common terminology while being univocal to oppose eulogistic reference of “China Model” speaks volumes of the pervasive dilemma.

As it is, the mould of the Chinese economy is neither an American kind of liberal market economy, nor a social market economy of European kind. And of course, it is not a Stalinist command economy what it used to be. Quite broadly, it is an economy with free markets of labor, and free markets of commodities and very soon, of capital flow. The market competitions are so intense that everywhere one could see fraud and fakes. On the other hand, one could as well see the state’s very determined intervention in the use of land and natural resources, as well as a few very strong state enterprises, banks, and research institutions, levering domestic and overseas competitions. This model has grown out of the trials of error; copying where it can; and, will change only at a high cost, that again, only in times to come. In a word, there is yet far to go before China could set an example.

China’s miracle of economic growth and development thus far is a story of high investment-GDP and capital-output ratios on the one hand and high export-GDP ratio on the other. Conceptual wherewithal of China’s adherence to high investment-GDP and capital-output ratios interestingly did not stem from its own intellectual articulations. It had but to draw on ‘Harrod-Domar Model’ and its further extensions including the ‘Exogenous Growth Model’.[vi] There were then half a dozen forerunners to set their examples. Post-war Germany, for example, achieved a peak investment to GDP ratio of 27 percent in 1964; Japan's peaked at 36 percent in 1973, and South Korea's at 39 percent in 1991. China stands out as it peaked at 50%-plus investment to GDP ratio for 12 years in a row. Thailand and Singapore had earlier sustained investment boom for nine long years at 33 percent. Notwithstanding, near home ASEAN economy did as well have a high export-GDP ratio approach to prosperity to emulate and develop further. It peaked and ran across roughly 30-40 percent for the whole range of the first decade of the current millennium.

China's US$ 4.4 trillion GDP now ranks third in the world after the US and Japan in exchange rate terms, accounting for 6.4 percent of the world economy. When measured on a purchasing power parity basis, it ranks second after the US. But for the exposures to the global financial crisis, the Chinese economy registered an average annual growth rate of 10 and odd percent for nearly three decades. Exports of goods and services accounted for 39.7 percent of the total GDP.[vii] It holds 7.6 percent share in the world exports. It tops the list of foreign exchange holders with US$ 2.27 trillion in its kitty.

The Chinese achievements to this effect have largely come through first, investment in fixed assets including infrastructure and by exporting all kinds of consumer goods churned out in low-wage factories; workers parked their savings in state-run banks, which then loaned the money to companies to make more stuff. Technology and managerial knowhow came mostly from multinationals. Though that model has fuelled phenomenal growth, Hu and others now call it "unbalanced" and "unsustainable." By Beijing's own admission, the economic model that powered China for three decades can no longer be counted upon for future as it has irreparable invisible costs such as pollution, decaying social services, and a yawning gap between the urban rich and rural poor.[viii] Long standing structural deficiency, in particular over capacity of production, borne of sheep-like investment, is now an accepted blight.

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Horizon of New Vision and Approach

The Chinese political, institutional and business leaderships are discernibly seized with the issue. New visions, unfolded in the past couple of months, swear to make for the lost ground. The prescription, broadly, calls for: ‘grimy factories’ giving way to renewable-energy industries and a growing service sector; Chinese consumers, rather than stretched Americans and Europeans, coming round to underpin demand; and, instead of churning out me-too goods for little profit, Chinese companies are taking the call to create innovative products based on home-grown technologies’.

Seen in retrospect, China’s rise to prosperity, with all attendant dimensions of ramifications, is part of a path breaking travail. It involved various set of adjustments and reforms, if not transformation of centrally planned system that was largely closed to international trade to a more market-oriented economy that has a rapidly growing private sector. There have been pressure groups, which pulled and pushed the policy directions to their benefits. There is quintessentially a story of two Chinas – an entrepreneurial rural China and a state-controlled urban China. In the 1980s, rural China gained the upper hand, and the result was rapid as well as broad-based growth. In the 1990s, urban China triumphed. In the 1990s, the Chinese state reversed many of its productive rural experiments, with long-lasting damage to the economy and society. A weak financial sector, income disparity, rising illiteracy, productivity slowdowns, and reduced personal income growth are the product of the so called ‘socialism with Chinese characteristics of the 1990s and beyond’.

In a recent study, the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China in partnership with Roland Berger Strategy Consultants holds China’s long-standing structural deficiencies in the Chinese economy, responsible for ‘overcapacity’, playing truant in its sustainable economic development.[ix] Much of China’s "overcapacity" has been driven by an orgy of capital spending and the artificial peg of the Chinese Renminbi to the US dollar to protect the export-led manufacturing industry. Analysts at Pivot Capital Management warn that it had potential of leading China to "hard landing" no sooner when it runs out.

There is then UBS economist Tao Wang who does not have the “"sky-is-falling" outlook on China.” The high investment-GDP and capital-output ratios, she argues, "are specific to the current phase of China's growth, which has been very manufacturing-intensive and, in particular, biased toward heavy-industries.” But even she believes that unless "structural imbalances" in China's economy are addressed through adjustments to macro policies, "we expect... non-performing loans to increase down the road, and asset bubbles and excess capacity problems to worsen."

There are tens of other problems with the Chinese approach to development. It has brought about all sorts of inequalities, in particular, the rich and poor, both in urban and rural China. Conscious of the consequences on socio-economic and political life at the long last, the Chinese mandarin have introduced an array of palliatives, strengthening social safety net included. However, as in the past, there is precious little very specific in the China’s developmental paradigm that can be classed as socialist. There is then little to address the dilemma of Chinese intelligentsia.

(Dr. Sheonandan Pandey is a China watcher with a long stint in the Government of India and finally retied from National Technical Research Organization. He can be contacted at [email protected])

Notes and References

Dec 1978 stands a watershed as it marked 180 degree shift in Chinese approach at the third plenary session of the 11th National Party Congress. Before the formal meeting, Deng Xiaoping gave a speech at a working group session where he urged that the regime better focus on ‘development and modernization’, and let facts—not ideology—guide the path. The shifts in stance is better known and remembered for Deng’s anecdotes: “It does not matter if it is a black cat or white cat. As long as it can catch mice, it is a good cat”.

[ii] Amendments to the seventh paragraph of the preamble of the “Constitution of the People’s Republic of China”, approved on March 29, 1993 by the 8th NPC at its First Session reads: “China is in the primary stage of socialism. The basic task of the nation is, according to the theory of building socialism with Chinese Characteristics, to concentrate its efforts on socialist modernization. Under the leadership of Communist Party of China and the guidance of Marxism-Leninism and Mao Zedong Thoughts, the Chinese people of all nationalities will continue to adhere to the people's democratic dictatorship and follow the socialist road, persevere in reform and opening to the outside, steadily improve socialist institutions, develop socialist democracy, improve the socialist legal system and work hard and self-reliantly to modernize industry, agriculture, national defense and science and technology step by step to turn China into a socialist country with prosperity and power, democracy and culture."

[iii] During 1956 and 1957, the CPC launched 1957 launched “let a hundred flowers bloom; let a hundred schools of thought” campaign, where it encouraged party cadres to express themselves against the government policies. This was the time when land reform dominated the agenda. The three anti/ five anti campaigns brought an end of the private ownership of land. The campaign witnessed purge of thousands of people believed to be landlord and capitalist. In his speech, “On the Correct Handling of the Contradictions among the People”, Mao displayed open support. Mao said: Our society can not back down, it would only grow….criticism of the bureaucracy is pushing the government towards the better.” In their out pours, the Chinese intelligentsia the CPC control over intellectuals, corruptions among the party cadres and the like. Mao considered it an offence to the working of the party. The CPC launched anti-rightist campaign, and over 550,000 were subjected to humiliations. They were sent to labour and re-education camps, where a large number of them died after suffering tortures.

[iv] Liu Xiaobo happened to be one of the first 300 signatories of “Charter 08 Petition” besides author of six articles that sought to espouse the cause of multi-party democracy. He was tried on the trumped up charges of “inciting subversion of state power” by Beijing Court on 23 Dec 09. He was declared guilty and awarded imprisonment of 15 years.

[v] China’s wealthiest 10 percent families make up 45 percent income of total urban residents. In contrast 10 percent of the low income families own 1.4 percent of the total income of the families in the entire country. From 1978 to 1984, the Gini index in China was at 0.16. In 2007, it stood at 0.473. http;// www.english.people.com.cn/ 90001/ 90778/90862/6840372.html

[vi] ‘Harrod-Domar Model’ bears out that the economic growth of a country depended on the ‘quantity of labour and capital’. Accordingly, efficient use of savings and investments held center stage in all developmental strides. Roy F. Harrod had developed the model independently in 1939. Evsey Domar did it at his own in 1946. This ‘Harrod-Domar’ later turned precursor for ‘Exogenous Growth Model’, also known as ‘Solow-Swan Growth Model’.

[vii] With 39.7 percent share, export of goods and services constituted the second best contributor to China’s GDP growth after gross fixed investments which accounted for 40.9 percent. Private consumption and government consumption accounted respectively for 36.4 and 13.7 percent respectively. This is one reason why China’s GDP growth plummeted fast as the export demand fell in the course of global financial crisis and economic down turn. Sector-wise share of the Chinese GDP shows industry including construction accounting for 47.5 percent and services 41.8 percent with share of agriculture being just 10.7 percent. As a result, the recessionary pressure exerted so heavily on industry which depended on exports demand.

[viii] China's Economy: Behind All the Hype - BusinessWeek

[ix] In the 60 page study, “Overcapacity in China: Causes, Impacts and Recommendations”, the President of the European Chamber of Commerce says: European Chamber President Joerg Wuttke, "Our study shows that the impact of overcapacity is subtle but far reaching, affecting dozens of industries and damaging economic growth not only in China but worldwide. Domestically, excess capacity squeezes profit margins, hampers innovation and prevents the emergence of true local champions, while on the global stage its influence is clearly seen in the rise in trade tensions between China and its major trading partners. This study, then, aims to offer solutions that will benefit not only Chinese companies and Chinese industry in general, but the whole global economic system. When China prospers, we all benefit." http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/cxontent/nov20091126_305569;http:// www.Chinanewswire.com/pr/200911261401426392


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Badguy was claiming Chinese railtech was above France, it isn't. They don't even make the rolling stock much less completing the lines without Euro help. The Guangzhou to Wuhan only reaches 313km/h for commercial service, the 350 was only a test. TGV Lille to Marseille averages 317km/h so all those claims are false about it being the fastest line in the world, much less the fastest train which TGV beats by 200km/h. France's national average speed is misleading, highspeed passenger service is conducted during the day while the slower freight is carried at night. The freight cars are quite a bit slower so it brings down the total average. China has practically no highspeed freight lines to bring down their average so the comparison is misleading when talking about the vast expanse of French TGV lines.
guy....your odd mentality just proves how poor old europe still is afloat in its old past glory and can not face the reality that Europe is being marginalized by CHina and USA.



if European still can not get used to a powerful china and still keep preaching its hackneyed and stereotyped "west value" to China, poor Europe will keep being humiliated by CHina, just as its humiliation in Copenhangen.

welcome to the earth in 2009.
 

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guy....your odd mentality just proves how poor old europe still is afloat in its old past glory and can not face the reality that Europe is being marginalized by CHina and USA.

if European still can not get used to a powerful china and still keep preaching its hackneyed and stereotyped "west value" to China, poor Europe will keep being humiliated by CHina, just as its humiliation in Copenhangen.

welcome to the earth in 2009.
I offer the course of Deprogramme CCP Propoganda A01.

Welcome to my class. We here at the Laboratoire de Psychopathologie du Chinois are working hard to undo the brainwashing of Han Chinese for years. We will continue in our endeavours to eradicate the scourge of ignorant fanboys generated by the CCP. It is a difficult task, but we are dedicated in our work as ignorance is the world's greatest sin. Few over exaggerate their importance more than the Chinese Communist Party!
 

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China’s Domestic Demand: What’s the Hold Up?


China’s recent economic problems come courtesy of declining American demand for Chinese exports, and have sparked renewed talk of how Beijing needs to shift from export-dependent growth to a greater focus on domestic consumption. If only saying it could make it so. In reality, history has shown that such transitions are wrenching, and China will be no exception.

Everyone wants to see growth in Chinese domestic demand. China’s leaders see it as an immediate solution to the slowdown in exports and employment, and as a way to reduce the country’s exposure to future external shocks. Pettis and other economic observers, including myself, see it as necessary to correct an unsustainable imbalance in the global balance of savings and consumption. Time magazine even speculates, in a recent cover story, that China might be able to “save the world” if only it can get its own consumers to buy more.

So why should it be so hard? Why should boosting Chinese domestic demand require, as Pettis suggests, a “wrenching” transition? China certainly does not lack for consumers, and collectively, at least, they’re rich (the country is sitting on over US$2 trillion in foreign currency reserves). And at least part of China’s stimulus package is designed to give consumers rebates and other incentives to go out and spend. But later in that same op-ed Pettis observes, ”China can and will eventually make the transition away from export-led growth, but no one should expect it to be quick or easy.” Why not, exactly? That is the question I’d like to explore in depth today.

Pettis himself attributes the difficulty, correctly, to factors deeply embedded in China’s export-led growth model. But in doing so, he tends to focus his attention on the demand side of the equation. In another Wall Street Journal piece, he notes that “consumption is still repressed thanks in part to very low deposit rates, constraints on consumer financing and low wages.” In particular, he notes how China’s preoccupation with funding manufacturing industries led it to neglect the development of consumer finance lending and the country’s service sector.

All of these are valid and important points, but only half of the picture. It’s natural, when talking about consumption, to look immediately towards the demand side of the equation. In everyday language, we tend to use “consumption” and “demand” as synonyms. In fact, the amount demanded or consumed (think “q” on your supply-demand charts) is as much as function of supply as demand. And it’s the supply side of the equation — which determines where along a given demand curve the economy ends up — where the really big problem lies.

When we talk about Chinese domestic consumption “picking up the slack” for exports, we tend to imagine a Chinese company losing a foreign customer for its product, only to gain a replacement customer in China. Hence we wonder, what’s the problem? Why can’t the Chinese, who seem to have plenty to spend, just buy what they used to sell abroad for their own consumption?

The answer becomes clear when you look at who China’s export producers actually are. The vast majority of them are contract manufacturers. They do not sell their own products abroad under their own brand names, using their own sales and distribution channels. They make somebody else’s product and ship it to them abroad. Many of them have no direct contact with the end buyer, but contract through an intermediary. In most cases, they played no role in design and have no rights to the product itself. Having come on-line during a booming period of globalization, when capacity was stretched thin, their experience in marketing was usually limited to picking up the phone to take orders. These descriptions do not just apply to sweatshops producing low-end consumer goods. Even highly skilled Chinese companies making advanced parts and components tend to be deeply embedded in global supply chains, often with dedicated production lines for specific foreign customers.

The situation is so extreme that Chinese who travel abroad often go shopping for better-quality made-in-China goods that they can’t find back in China, in order to bring them back home. Even when such goods do appear in Chinese stores, they often cost more (in absolute terms) than they would abroad, because they have to be re-imported.

The point here is not to criticize Chinese exporters. These businesses have responded to the opportunities the global marketplace has presented to them, and their operational capabilities represent a huge leap forward compared to the China of 30 years ago. The point is that a sizeable portion of China’s production based is geared almost exclusively to feed into highly developed external markets. Reorienting them to serve China’s less developed domestic markets will be no easy feat. Chinese exporters will have to reinvent themselves, dramatically altering their business models and mastering entirely new business skills. They will struggle with the long lead times and new investments involved in acquiring new customers or developing brands. Many existing companies will fail and go out of business, while entirely new ones will emerge to seize the new opportunities.

Pettis is absolutely right that China’s service industries, which could help expand domestic consumption, are extremely underdeveloped. They represent a prime area where new companies can come to the fore. But the problem goes far deeper than suppressed demand. As I pointed out in my previous post on SME lending, Chinese banks need to radically reform their collateral-based approach to lending, which excludes asset-light service companies from access to capital. Boosting domestic consumption will mean that banks, too, must push outside their “comfort zone” to adjust to new market conditions.

The process of “creative destruction” necessary to boost domestic consumption will be uncertain and disruptive. The problem is that China’s government, at this moment, is scared to death of uncertainty and disruption, and is doing everything it can to minimize them. The whole thrust of the stimulus has been to freeze the economy in place, as it was before the crisis, by extending working capital loans to keep failing companies afloat and front-loading the next generation of infrastructure development to keep existing industrial capacity filled. China seems to want to “lock in” the economic accomplishments of the past 30 years, with “no company left behind.” But as long as it continues to do so, it prevents capital and other resources, including labor, from being reallocated into sectors that serve domestic demand.

Every month, analysts pour over the latest statistics released for signs that China’s efforts to stimulate domestic demand, including rebates or cuts in purchase taxes, are bearing fruit. But even if these temporary measures were to succeed in permanently shifting the domestic economy’s demand curve, which is unlikely, the supply curve hasn’t budged. Their effect, therefore, is likely to be temporary and limited, NOT the structural change everyone is looking for. In fact, that structural change is being blocked by the rest of China’s stimulus, including export rebates and a flood of cheap loans, designed to preserve employment. The net effect is negative. In his March WSJ piece, Pettis describes implicitly the supply-side dilemma I just tried to make explicit:

The service sector is almost nonexistent and it is proving fiendishly hard to boost consumption directly. So in Beijing’s effort to support domestic demand, most stimulus spending goes to investment and to the manufacturing sector, especially to the large state-owned enterprises that dominate the economy . . . The effects of these measures in terms of boosting “excess” production — in other words, production beyond China’s ability to consume domestically — far outweigh Beijing’s direct attempts to stimulate household spending via measures like subsidies on appliance purchases and cutting purchase taxes on cars . . . As much as Beijing would like to change its model, it cannot do so quickly except by tolerating a massive collapse in manufacturing output.

The debate over China’s economy is often framed in terms of success or failure — China saving the world versus China crashing and burning. But I prefer to speak in terms of seized or missed opportunities. I sometimes wonder, for instance, what would happen if instead of providing life-support to troubled companies, the Chinese government just let some of those companies fail and spent the same money on temporary support payments and small business start-up loans to unemployed workers. Nobody would starve, nobody would have cause to riot, but at least they would be freed to do something productive rather than stand around a dormant factory all day long.

Back in the early 1980s, China also had an unemployment problem, of sorts. Millions of people were returning from the countryside, where they had been “sent down” during the Cultural Revolution, and many were unable to secure jobs with state “work units” due to their dubious political status. The government responded — almost by accident – by allowing them create their own employment by peddling goods on the street. These getihu (single household units) were initially spurned as delinquents and undesirables, but eventually were allowed to hire employees of their own. Many of these entrepreneurs built hugely successful private companies, some even listed on the Hong Kong exchange or Nasdaq, becoming multi-millionaires in the process. Why couldn’t the same thing happen again, if we let today’s export workers turn their creativity loose on China’s domestic market for goods and services? What kind of miracle are we holding back by freezing them in place?

One of the major reasons lurking behind the Chinese preference for the status quo – not just in official thinking, but popular thinking as well — is the ingrained notion that exports are “good” while imports are “bad.” This may have made sense 30 years ago, when China desperately needed to earn precious foreign exchange to pay for much-needed machinery and other investments. But it makes no sense now, when China’s compulsion to keep exporting forces it to pile up more foreign currency than it wants.

In the midst of this current crisis, China’s leaders, and its population, see boosting internal demand for Chinese-made goods as an immediate way to save Chinese jobs and perhaps de-link themselves from the world’s economic troubles. But in order to resolve the underlying imbalance in global savings and consumption that Pettis and others point out, rising Chinese demand must not only absorb more of China’s own production, it must also spend more on imports from abroad. This would be, in effect, another way to shift the domestic supply curve outwards. When the Chinese hear this, however, it sounds to them like foreigners are “stealing” part of China’s recovery.

I have written in other posts about how Chinese companies actually need foreign competition in order to spur their business to a higher level and facilitate the development of domestic consumer markets. A classic example of this is the Chinese fast food industry, where the presence of McDonald’s and KFC has inspired countless Chinese emulators catering to the new consumer trend they introduced. But on a macro level, as well, China needs imports. In a recent post on his website, Pettis mentions that he has been reading Akio Mikuni and R. Taggart Murphy’s book Japan’s Policy Trap: Dollars, Deflation, and the Crisis of Japanese Finance. One of my favorite books, at least along these lines, is Murphy’s The Real Price of Japanese Money, which covers similar ground. In it, he shows not just how structural factors, such as cheap lending, fueled a persistent trade imbalance, but how the proceeds from that imbalance (the accumulation of foreign currency from trade surpluses) fueled a domestic bubble in both stocks and real estate. If China wants to avoid a similar trap, it needs to come to terms with the fact that greater domestic consumption will mean more imports, and that this is actually a “good” thing.

Everyone agrees, in principle, on the need for China to boost domestic consumption. But making that actually happen – allowing it to happen — is much tougher than it looks, because it involves disruptive change and an openness to new ideas about what China’s economy will look like. It’s an interesting fact of psychology that, once human beings find something that works, they tend to keep doing it. The problem comes when circumstances change and whatever they were doing stops working. Do they recognize the change and try something new? Or do they just keep doing what used to work? The answer marks one of the main differences between success and failure not only among individuals, but companies and countries as well.

I’ll close by making an equally important but much broader point. Over the past year, in response to the global financial crisis, we’ve seen a resurgence of Keynesianism and its focus on demand-side solutions. “Supply side economics” has been ridiculed and declared dead. But as important as fiscal and monetary stimulus may be in priming the pump, or keeping the pump from clogging in the first place, by keeping credit and revenue flowing when markets over-contract, the health of the supply side — and its ability to adapt unhindered to changes in economic conditions — remains vitally important. Stimulus may avoid the unnecessary destruction of wealth due to panic, but ultimately an economy must create wealth to prosper, and stimulus measures must be careful not to get in the way.

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30 December 2009

A whopping $34.37 billion went missing from China's $586 billion economic stimulus package and most of it went into the pockets of corrupt government officials, who indulged in buying expensive cars and other fancy consumer durables, reports said on Tuesday.

Responding to the global financial crisis, China had, in November 2008, announced a massive 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) package to boost its economy and stimulate growth, but government auditors found $34.37 billion of it missing. Most of the missing funds have gone into the pockets of corrupt government officials, who indulged in buying expensive cars and other fancy consumer durables, reports said.

China's National Audit Office (NAO) had said in September that it would conduct special checks on the $586 billion stimulus package spending, and after auditing nearly 100,000 government departments and state-owned enterprises (SOEs), NAO's chief auditor Liu Jiayi said on Monday at the annual conference of auditors in Beijing that over 234 billion yuan ($34.37 billion) of public finances was embezzled.

Liu said his office had audited over 20,000 officials, including 14 provincial governors and ministerial-level officials, directors of 12 SOEs across the country and found that nearly 11 billion yuan was pocketed by corrupt directors and officials, with senior officials swindling 4.5 per cent of the total amount of $34.37 billion embezzled.

"In the course of raising domestic consumption, some of the allotted money never reached its destination, and some local funds were not properly managed and regulated," Liu said.
Apart from the $34.37 billion that government officials embezzled, 16.3 billion yuan was wasted on projects, said Liu.


Of the 234.7 billion yuan that was embezzled, auditors have already recovered 16.3 billion yuan and filed cases against 67 senior officials of SOE's for their alleged involvement in the massive embezzlement, while 164 others were handed over to judicial authorities and punished under the country's corruption law.

Premier Wen Jiabao told auditors at the conference to step up efforts to tackle corruption, while Liu said that his department has to enhance officials' awareness of law and set up clear accountability system at all government levels.

China, the world's fourth largest economy, with the largest foreign exchange reserves, had launched a 4 trillion yuan stimulus package in the backdrop of the global financial crisis that had engulfed the US, Europe and Japan and in turn hurting developing countries like China. (See: China pumps $586 billion to bolster economy).

Most of the $586 billion package was spent on infrastructure projects like the reconstruction after the devastating earthquake last year in Sichuan; the Beijing-to-Shanghai high-speed railway, the building of gas pipelines from neighboring countries to its borders, road and major dam projects.

But the huge projects proved to be a goldmine for corrupt officials in a country, which is prone to excessive corruption despite corrupt officials having been awarded life imprisonment or even the death sentence in some cases.

China's communist leaders have repeatedly warned that corruption, which has become so widespread in the country, will one day threaten the party.
 

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I think you as a frenchmen should pay more attention to whether French Airbus or other big companies will be driven out of CHinese market first,if you really have too many energy.
I think you as a Chinaman should be more concerned with the drop in domestic demand for commercial liners caused by the global slowdown. Airbus isn't worried about being driven out, more to the point, worried about the Chinese airlines not having demand for airtravel with recessed consumer spending. It is China's economic well being we are concerned with after all this wreckless spending and bad loans. We aren't worried about future Chinese jets since they are being partnered with Ukraine. :D
 

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Melting of Himalayan glaciers the biggest threat to food security - dnaindia.com

What about China?

For sheer size of investment, China stands out. The Chinese firm ZTE International has secured rights to 2.8 million hectares (6.9 million acres) in the Democratic Republic of the Congo on which to produce palm oil, which can be used either for cooking or to produce biodiesel fuel--indicating that the competition between food and fuel is also showing up in land acquisitions. This compares with the 1.9 million hectares used by the Congo's 66 million people to produce corn, their food staple. Congo depends on a WFP lifeline. China is also negotiating for 2 million hectares in Zambia on which to produce jatropha, an oilseed-bearing perennial. Among the other countries in which China has acquired land or has plans to do so are Australia, Russia, Brazil, Kazakhstan, Myanmar, and Mozambique.

What are the problems with this trend?
These bilateral land acquisitions raise many questions. To begin with, these negotiations and the agreements they lead to lack transparency. Typically only a few high-ranking officials are involved and the terms are confidential. Not only are many stakeholders such as farmers not at the table when the agreements are negotiated, they do not even learn about the deals until after they have been signed. And since there is rarely idle productive land in the countries where the land is being purchased or leased, the agreements suggest that many local farmers will simply be displaced. Their land may be confiscated or it may be bought from them at a price over which they have little say. This helps explain the public hostility that often arises within host countries.

China, for example, signed an agreement with Philippines to lease over a million hectares of land on which to produce crops that would be shipped home. Once word leaked out, the public outcry forced the government to suspend the agreement. China is also running into on-the-ground opposition over its quest for 2 million hectares in Zambia. This new approach to achieving food security also raises questions about the effects on employment. At least two countries, China and South Korea, are planning in some cases to bring in their own farm workers.

The government of Pakistan, which is trying to sell or lease 400,000 hectares, is offering to provide a security force of 100,000 men to protect the land and assets of investors. :rofl: Who will these security forces be protecting the invested assets from? Another disturbing dimension of many land investments is that they are taking place in countries like Indonesia, Brazil, and Congo where expanding cropland typically means clearing tropical rainforests that sequester large quantities of carbon. This could measurably raise global carbon emissions, increasing the climate threat to world food security.

You have talked about the 'Japan syndrome' driving up prices of food worldwide. Could you explain...
If countries are already densely populated when they begin to industrialise rapidly, three things happen in quick succession to make them heavily dependent on grain imports: grain consumption climbs as incomes rise, grainland area shrinks, and grain production falls. As grain production falls, the country has to resort to importing grain. I first observed this phenomenon in Japan, which now imports 70% of its grain, and hence termed it the Japan syndrome.

And now the Japan syndrome is spreading beyond Japan?
China is now gradually falling victim to the Japan syndrome, and that is clearly worrying. Perhaps the most alarming recent world agricultural event is the precipitous fall in China's grain production since 1998. After an impressive climb from 90 million tonnes in 1950 to a peak of 392 million tonnes in 1998, China's grain harvest fell in four of the last five years, dropping to 322 million tonnes in 2003. For perspective, this decline of 70 million tonnes exceeds the entire grain harvest of Canada.

China is losing grainland to expanding deserts and it is faced with spreading water shortages that are shrinking the grain harvest. China's population of 1.3 billion is impressive, but even more impressive is the fact that 1.193 billion of them live in 46% of the country. The five sprawling provinces of Tibet, Qinghai, Xinjiang, Gansu, and Inner Mongolia, have only 81 million people - just 6% of the national total. Thus industrial and residential construction and the land paved for roads, highways, and parking lots will be concentrated in less than half the country, where 94% of the people live. People are crowded in this region simply because this is where arable land and water are.

If China had Japan's automobile ownership rate of one car for every two people, it would have a fleet of 640 million, a forty-fold increase from the 16 million today. Such a fleet would require paving almost 13 million hectares of land -- again, most of it likely cropland. This figure is equal to two thirds of China's 21 million hectares of riceland -- land that produces 120 million tonnes of rice -- the country's principal staple food.
 

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Chinese New Year

By PAUL KRUGMAN

It’s the season when pundits traditionally make predictions about the year ahead. Mine concerns international economics: I predict that 2010 will be the year of China. And not in a good way.

Actually, the biggest problems with China involve climate change. But today I want to focus on currency policy.

China has become a major financial and trade power. But it doesn’t act like other big economies. Instead, it follows a mercantilist policy, keeping its trade surplus artificially high. And in today’s depressed world, that policy is, to put it bluntly, predatory.

Here’s how it works: Unlike the dollar, the euro or the yen, whose values fluctuate freely, China’s currency is pegged by official policy at about 6.8 yuan to the dollar. At this exchange rate, Chinese manufacturing has a large cost advantage over its rivals, leading to huge trade surpluses.

Under normal circumstances, the inflow of dollars from those surpluses would push up the value of China’s currency, unless it was offset by private investors heading the other way. And private investors are trying to get into China, not out of it. But China’s government restricts capital inflows, even as it buys up dollars and parks them abroad, adding to a $2 trillion-plus hoard of foreign exchange reserves.

This policy is good for China’s export-oriented state-industrial complex, not so good for Chinese consumers. But what about the rest of us?

In the past, China’s accumulation of foreign reserves, many of which were invested in American bonds, was arguably doing us a favor by keeping interest rates low — although what we did with those low interest rates was mainly to inflate a housing bubble. But right now the world is awash in cheap money, looking for someplace to go. Short-term interest rates are close to zero; long-term interest rates are higher, but only because investors expect the zero-rate policy to end some day. China’s bond purchases make little or no difference.

Meanwhile, that trade surplus drains much-needed demand away from a depressed world economy. My back-of-the-envelope calculations suggest that for the next couple of years Chinese mercantilism may end up reducing U.S. employment by around 1.4 million jobs.

The Chinese refuse to acknowledge the problem. Recently Wen Jiabao, the prime minister, dismissed foreign complaints: “On one hand, you are asking for the yuan to appreciate, and on the other hand, you are taking all kinds of protectionist measures.” Indeed: other countries are taking (modest) protectionist measures precisely because China refuses to let its currency rise. And more such measures are entirely appropriate.

Or are they? I usually hear two reasons for not confronting China over its policies. Neither holds water.

First, there’s the claim that we can’t confront the Chinese because they would wreak havoc with the U.S. economy by dumping their hoard of dollars. This is all wrong, and not just because in so doing the Chinese would inflict large losses on themselves. The larger point is that the same forces that make Chinese mercantilism so damaging right now also mean that China has little or no financial leverage.

Again, right now the world is awash in cheap money. So if China were to start selling dollars, there’s no reason to think it would significantly raise U.S. interest rates. It would probably weaken the dollar against other currencies — but that would be good, not bad, for U.S. competitiveness and employment. So if the Chinese do dump dollars, we should send them a thank-you note.

Second, there’s the claim that protectionism is always a bad thing, in any circumstances. If that’s what you believe, however, you learned Econ 101 from the wrong people — because when unemployment is high and the government can’t restore full employment, the usual rules don’t apply.

Let me quote from a classic paper by the late Paul Samuelson, who more or less created modern economics: “With employment less than full ... all the debunked mercantilistic arguments” — that is, claims that nations who subsidize their exports effectively steal jobs from other countries — “turn out to be valid.” He then went on to argue that persistently misaligned exchange rates create “genuine problems for free-trade apologetics.” The best answer to these problems is getting exchange rates back to where they ought to be. But that’s exactly what China is refusing to let happen.

The bottom line is that Chinese mercantilism is a growing problem, and the victims of that mercantilism have little to lose from a trade confrontation. So I’d urge China’s government to reconsider its stubbornness. Otherwise, the very mild protectionism it’s currently complaining about will be the start of something much bigger.

Op-Ed Columnist - Chinese New Year - NYTimes.com
 

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What crap are you spouting? TGV holds the world record at 574.8 km/h. First TGV was going as fast as your rail line thirty years ago. Chinese can't even make the power cars, just the rail system and when they run into problems, they have to call in Euro contractors. Your tech is at least 30 years behind ours, and your power car tech is practically non-existant.

Hei:

You are an indian, so please stop using words like 'ours'. And you better also change your flag to something more appropriate.

[mod]Tony, Its better you focus on debating the points with other members rather than taking about members allegiance/origin etc. Please desist[/mod]
 

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I think you as a frenchmen should pay more attention to whether French Airbus or other big companies will be driven out of CHinese market first,if you really have too many energy.
Funny, indians poke fun about china's supposedly lack of domestic consumption, yet currently india's car market is only 1/5 of that of china in terms of volume, and even smaller in terms of value. The same can also be said of home electronics, food, oversea tourism, .... Virtually in every imaginable sector of the market china dwarfs india by a factor of 5 or more. Yet india's GDP is supposedly a 1/3 of china's with some what smaller population, so how you explain this paradox. China has been accused of cooking the books, but looking at those numbers and changes in the daily life of the common in both countires over the past 20 years, one has to wonder who is one that is actually exaggerating?
 

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Indians have been claiming 7-8% growth over the past the past decade and half, yet sadly you have very little to show for in terms of improvement for either the country or the people. One funny excuse by the indians when asked about the vast gap in economy between China and india is that India's reform started late in 1991. Now let me ask you what was india before 1991, a stalinnistic communist society? was private entreprenourship forbidden? the answer is neither. India today is really no different than it was 20 years ago, the society structure, the deep rooted castle system, the pysdo-democracy, the slums, the vast undernourished poor, the ancient infrastructure all remain the same, the only thing that is different is now India too boasts high economy growth. Just like India announced to send a man into space after China did so, India suddenly claimed to have achived high economic growth rates, based on what? If you don't have the necessary roads, airports, power plants, factories, skilled workers (india's manufactoring sector is only a 1/10 the size of China's), your claim to economic stardom can only be pure imagination.
 

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Funny, indians poke fun about china's supposedly lack of domestic consumption, yet currently india's car market is only 1/5 of that of china in terms of volume, and even smaller in terms of value.
Consumer spending is a big indicator of a domestic economy, far greater than a subsidised car market. China is practically giving cars away, not seeing people buy them. This is also reflected in the depressed consumer spending numbers of China.

The same can also be said of home electronics, food, oversea tourism, .... Virtually in every imaginable sector of the market china dwarfs india by a factor of 5 or more.
Yet Indian consumer spending percentages are far higher than China, why is that you ask. Because China subsidises industries to the point of non-competition, combine that with rampant IP theft and illegal food enhancement methods and China dwarfs alot of people. India plays by the international rules and hence has a much more stable engine of growth.
 

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China Dethrones Germany as Top Goods Exporter


BRUSSELS -- China took over the mantle of the world's top merchandise exporter from Germany in 2009, according to the latest figures, aided by a global economic crisis that has taken a greater toll on other trading powers.

China exported $957 billion of goods in the first 10 months of 2009, compared with $917 billion for Germany, according to customs data compiled by Global Trade Information Services, a Geneva-based firm.

No changes in November or December are expected to overturn the Chinese lead, trade experts say. China is likely to publish trade figures for the full year next week.

China's claiming of the title of world's largest exporter was widely expected, with annual growth in its exports regularly exceeding 20% during the past decade.

China in 2007 overtook Germany as the world's third-largest national economy, and is on track to soon surpass Japan to become the second-largest economy after the U.S.

"China has been growing much more rapidly than Germany on all sorts of dimensions and has a population of 1.3 billion, while Germany has 83 million," said Douglas Irwin, a professor at Dartmouth College.

China's ascendancy has been accelerated by the international financial crisis, from which it has suffered less than other major economies.

With trade in tatters around the world, Chinese exports fell 20.4% during the first 10 months of 2009, compared with 27.4% for Germany and 21.4% for the U.S. The trade figures don't include transactions in services, which are significant in developed economies but a weak point for China.

Germany suffered a particularly heavy drop in 2009 exports because of its concentration in machinery and other capital goods, which were hit by a slump in investment spending by industries world-wide. Global consumer spending fell by less than corporate investment, benefiting China's exports of low-cost consumer goods relative to Germany's high-end equipment.

"Most of the products China produces for the global market are life necessities," says Huang Huiguo, chief executive of Kingsons International, a Guangzhou-based exporter of leather bags.

China's currency, the yuan, is tied to the sinking dollar, helping to keep the country's exports competitive on price. Those factors helped Chinese goods gain market share in the U.S., Europe and Japan last year.

High export volumes don't necessarily translate into overall economic success.

Many economists criticize both Germany and China for focusing too much on export volumes, and doing too little to promote sustained growth in domestic demand and improve living standards.

The size of China's total exports "is not speaking to how important and powerful Chinese companies are on their own," says Scott Kennedy, a China expert and political scientist at Indiana University.

Many of China's exporters earn relatively slim profits churning out goods designed and marketed by other companies.

For Germany, the rise of China has brought opportunities as well as challenges.

The country is "our biggest competitor but also our most dynamic market," says Jens Nagel, a trade expert with the German Exporters Association.

Many German companies say their exports to China and other emerging economies are buoyant again, but that sales to the U.S. and other European countries -- which are Germany's biggest market -- are recovering more slowly, if at all.

In fact, by exporting more, Chinese factories need more of the capital goods that Germany produces, said Dirk Schlotböller, economist at the German Chamber of Industry and Commerce.

"If China grows very fast and gets the championship in exports, it's only good for the German economy," Dr. Schlotböller added.

Germany's primary economic problem isn't that they country exports too little, but that its own consumers don't spend enough, which holds back its domestic service sectors, many economists say.

"Service sectors are more important for jobs that export industries, which tend to be very capital-intensive," says Elga Bartsch, an economist at Morgan Stanley in London.
 

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Contrarian Investor Sees Economic Crash in China

Contrarian Investor Sees Economic Crash in China
by David Barboza
Friday, January 8, 2010

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James S. Chanos built one of the largest fortunes on Wall Street by foreseeing the collapse of Enron and other highflying companies whose stories were too good to be true.

Now Mr. Chanos, a wealthy hedge fund investor, is working to bust the myth of the biggest conglomerate of all: China Inc.



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