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Please give me a list of countries India can trust in the world.
Any country that does not have a forked tongue.
 

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Please give me a list of countries India can trust in the world.
Please give me a list of country China can trust ??

Not even North Korea and Pakistan !!
 

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The United States of China trusts one another as the jackboot hovers overhead.

But then there are some of the States in China who don't trust China too! ;)

Tibet and Xingjian are amongst them.
 

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Trust between USA and PRC?
One of your own fellow man thinks otherwise.
HE YAFEI , quiet a known person associated with beijing says, the relationship is detoriating
The Trust Deficit - By He Yafei | Foreign Policy
u need to develop a profound comprehension of our Yin-Yang philosophy -
......The seemingly opposing forces are interconnected, interdependent and inter-convertible in the natural world, giving rise to each other.

G2 does not have to be in concensus over everything. Convergence or divergence of interest is a normal phenomenon. Live with it!

Then back to Sino-India theme --->> Regardless of whatever rhetoric Mr K comes forward with, Sino-India confrontation is inherent thus inevitable. Better having no illusions than getting disillusioned.
 

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u need to develop a profound comprehension of our Yin-Yang philosophy -
......The seemingly opposing forces are interconnected, interdependent and inter-convertible in the natural world, giving rise to each other.

G2 does not have to be in concensus over everything. Convergence or divergence of interest is a normal phenomenon. Live with it!

Then back to Sino-India theme --->> Regardless of whatever rhetoric Mr K comes forward with, Sino-India confrontation is inherent thus inevitable. Better having no illusions than getting disillusioned.
Thats quiet a poetic way of saying that "its all screwed up". There are certain things on diplomacy I prefer to have like my sexual orientation-Straight.
somehow, so far with PRC the diplomatic orientation is "confused".

there is no illusion nor dillusion we know its PRC's method of illumination.
 
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there is no illusion nor dillusion we know its PRC's method of illumination.
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Rather well said!
 

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i think india can trust all countries of the european union, russia plus japan and south korea - in our efforts to JOINTLY develop IMPORTANT military equipment and systems which are indeed VITAL to our defence - that's quite a long list there

we are currently trusting france to deliver quality fighter Rafale , if typhoon had won we would have readily trusted the consortium of about four European countries ..

we are trusting russia with the development of PAKFA

we are trusting south korea with the development of certain helicopter

we are trusting japan and Vietnam with joint military alliances

quite a list - yes most developed countries are worthy of our trust -

there is one exception - no prizes for guessing
 
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Adding to the above list...Association with France to co-develop satellites.
The Space Review: India’s French Connection in space
it shows the kind of trust India has managed to bring up with quiet a lot of international audience with genuine effort minus the deception.

France has been collaborating with India in the space area since 1960s. In May 1964, France and India established a program of continuing cooperation in space research of mutual interest for peaceful scientific purposes.
 

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China dropped Arunachal from Blue Book and we have dropped her from our school text book.

The curious case of the missing Arunachal Pradesh
Mumbai: While Arunachal Pradesh continues to be a key area of dispute between India and China, the state is not even a part of the country, according to the Maharashtra government's education department.

In geography textbooks endorsed by the state, the north-eastern state is not only missing, the area is also shown as part of Chinese territory. This shocking error has surfaced in geography books meant for Class 10 students affiliated to the Maharashtra state board. What's more, these books are being used by nearly 17 lakh students across the state.

Arunachal Pradesh is one of the areas that China claims as its own; it says the state is part of Tibet.

The Maharashtra state board is now on the back foot after this major embarrassment has come to light. No answers have been offered as to how wrong maps made its way to the textbook and those responsible for vetting this controversial content.

Meanwhile, the state press, Balbharti, which prints the textbooks has taken responsibility for this blunder. Though it has refused to come on record, it says these textbooks will continue to be on circulation - the mistake of the missing Arunachal Pradesh will only be rectified in the next edition, next year!
http://http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/the-curious-case-of-the-missing-arunachal-pradesh-366989?ndtv_rhs
 

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Did Li mean Shake or Fake?...its PRC..so it must be Fake.
Shake hand with fake smile.......I suppose
 

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+1

Be very friendly with them, but build up the military, and improve infrastructure in the border regions with priority.
Do it and don't always say it.
 

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Do it and don't always say it.
That is the reason why the Chinese have got spooked!

Read through the thread and see the maps and sketches appended and you will realise the improvement of infrastructure that has been going on!
 

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i think india can trust all countries of the european union, russia plus japan and south korea - in our efforts to JOINTLY develop IMPORTANT military equipment and systems which are indeed VITAL to our defence - that's quite a long list there

we are currently trusting france to deliver quality fighter Rafale , if typhoon had won we would have readily trusted the consortium of about four European countries ..

we are trusting russia with the development of PAKFA

we are trusting south korea with the development of certain helicopter

we are trusting japan and Vietnam with joint military alliances

quite a list - yes most developed countries are worthy of our trust -

there is one exception - no prizes for guessing
Ya , a long list. Then it invites a question: Is India reciprocally trust worthy?

The answer is NO!

Here is an example >>>India votes for Syria resolution in UNGA : Pravasi Today - NRI & PIO News Portal
UK wants India to support sanctions on Syria - Indian Express
The UN General Assembly has voted in favour of a resolution that condemned the violent crackdown in Syria and urged Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to step down. India supported the Arab League-backed resolution
By voting against Syria India has shown itself as NOT a country of principle - kowtowing to GCC feudal emirates (also patrons of Wahhabism) and the West, and also as a backstabber to longstanding friends (Syria and Russia).

There is no prize for an opportunist.

Ask not whom u can trust, ask how u yourself would become worthy of trust!
 
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Ya , a long list. Then it invites a question: Is India reciprocally trust worthy?

The answer is NO!

Here is an example >>>India votes for Syria resolution in UNGA : Pravasi Today - NRI & PIO News Portal
UK wants India to support sanctions on Syria - Indian Express


By voting against Syria India has shown itself as NOT a country of principle - kowtowing to GCC feudal emirates (also patrons of Wahhabism) and the West, and also as a backstabber to longstanding friends (Syria and Russia).

There is no prize for an opportunist.

Ask not whom u can trust, ask how u yourself would become worthy of trust!
Given India's own struggles with religious extremism, I'm not sure why India would want to vote at the UN on the same side as the predominantly external and mostly sectarian effort to impose regime change in Syria.
 

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When Li Keqiang's visits India we may see Tibetans in India protesting and asking for freedom of Tibet. India should arrange a dialogue between the Tibetan govt. in exile and the Chinese govt. A friendly gesture from India:rolleyes:
 

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Ya , a long list. Then it invites a question: Is India reciprocally trust worthy?

The answer is NO!

Here is an example >>>India votes for Syria resolution in UNGA : Pravasi Today - NRI & PIO News Portal
UK wants India to support sanctions on Syria - Indian Express


By voting against Syria India has shown itself as NOT a country of principle - kowtowing to GCC feudal emirates (also patrons of Wahhabism) and the West, and also as a backstabber to longstanding friends (Syria and Russia).

There is no prize for an opportunist.

Ask not whom u can trust, ask how u yourself would become worthy of trust!

India voted against Syria because

India's change of heart comes as violence has increased sharply inside Syria, with about 100 civilians being killed in the last weekend alone. Sources said, "We cannot allow it to deteriorate any further."

Making a statement in the Security Council earlier this week, India's permanent representative to UN Hardeep Puri said, "We have called for a peaceful and inclusive political process ... The problem in Syria is not merely security-related; it is primarily political and economic and emanates from the Syrian people's desire to play a greater role in shaping their destiny. Resolution of this problem cannot be found in violence or armed struggle and its violent suppression. Nor can a solution be reached through prescriptions from outside. The Syrian people demand and deserve empowerment so that a Syrian-led and Syrian-owned political solution can be found in an atmosphere free of violence and bloodshed."

India was willing to buy the Assad line until it became impossible to maintain the fiction that the violence was externally induced.

The resolution will support the Arab League's efforts in Syria, even though India was quite critical of the League's decision to up and run January-end as the violence escalated in the country.
The same way..Russia retracted from giving missile system to Syria;but by that time, we have seen so many innocent deaths and no solutions.
India understood it much earlier and did what it can with a vote.

PRC, which specializes in clamping down violence (Tibets, Uyghers etc)doesnt give much respect to human life..
Sooo...PRC doesnt trust itself, as a matter of fact.
eg: PRC allocating in too much in the budget to clamp down inernal conflicts.

Ask not whom u can trust, ask how u yourself would become worthy of trust![
Absolutely, This is what People inside the Great wall of PRC should ask themselves.
 
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Given India's own struggles with religious extremism, I'm not sure why India would want to vote at the UN on the same side as the predominantly external and mostly sectarian effort to impose regime change in Syria.
India succumbed to pressure by GCC oily monarchies, then also by the West to uproot the last overseas base of Russia.

Outrightly not a reliable partner nor a negotiating counterpart as India is swaying all the time and would trade their principles off for short-time gains.

then @sorcerer is blabbering all the way to justify Indian mind-boggling stance on Syria crisis, defending the indefensible!


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India succumbed to pressure by GCC oily monarchies, then also by the West to uproot the last overseas base of Russia.

Outrightly not a reliable partner nor a negotiating counterpart as India is swaying all the time and would trade their principles off for short-time gains.

then @sorcerer is blabbering all the way to justify Indian mind-boggling stance on Syria crisis, defending the indefensible!


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C'mon..you can call the decision by India by any other name, but it doesnt change the reality that, it has certain genuine ethics.
Categorically, the descion is justified- and on the long run, the descision is well justified, as allies of Syria is trying to solve it across the table.
but for the world when PRC talks...everyone says...the nation is blabbering and doesnt believe anything thats comin from inside its borders.


is swaying all the time and would trade their principles off for short-time gains.
We saw who did this Last month...many nations say..who does such circus.Well..you know the name and Its not India.
before you point finger at other nations and nullify their decisions have a look at your own nation and the environment it is in now.
 
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