China develops sub-launched long-range N-missile

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The reactor on board INS Arihant went critical in 2011, and you did missile test on it in 2010??? You are kidding me.
you miss the point, India is not going to design some 10,000 km ballistic missile. but what we are currently ( in initial stages ) designing is the kill vehicle , very similar to what ratheyon tested a short while ago , which kills the MIRV's right in space. this is going to be the major thrust for the next decade. they don't go much for offensive weapons , but for defense weapons. because the technology used for defensive weapons is much for complex and involved. any ways good luck for the success. India is not going to do exactly what china has done. your threat perception ( and showing to your own public ) is the U.S and our is not.
 

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you miss the point, India is not going to design some 10,000 km ballistic missile. but what we are currently ( in initial stages ) designing is the kill vehicle , very similar to what ratheyon tested a short while ago , which kills the MIRV's right in space. this is going to be the major thrust for the next decade. they don't go much for offensive weapons , but for defense weapons. because the technology used for defensive weapons is much for complex and involved. any ways good luck for the success. India is not going to do exactly what china has done. your threat perception ( and showing to your own public ) is the U.S and our is not.

From a layman's point of view I think a "kill vehicle" would be more technology complex to develop than a longer ranged ballistic missile ... And offence is still the best defence especially in the situation where India is now vis-a-vis China, where the latter is overly aggressive.
 

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And how exactly are the guidance systems of air-to-air, surface-to-air and cruise missiles going to help you develop a rocket engine with the power to carry multiple warheads over 5000km's?
Hey Chicom, Unlike you twits, we dont reverse engineer. Do you know how that works. Everything from Propellant mixtures, casing, welding technologies, material tech, gyro's , GPS, etc etc. You are so dumb, that you really are a oxygen thief.

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"In the early stages of designing a new booster for communications satellites, India struck a deal with Russia to provide hydrogen-fueled rocket engines and technical know-how.

The agreement was quashed in 1992 after U.S. authorities imposed sanctions on Glavkosmos, the Russian company providing technology to India. The United States feared the transfer of missile technology from the fractured Soviet Union to developing states.

India responded by purchasing seven readymade cryogenic engines from Russia and starting the design of an indigenous upper stage from scratch.

The Russian design would become the third stage for India's first generation of Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicles, a medium-lift rocket tailored to haul communications spacecraft to orbits high above Earth.

The GSLV first launched in 2001. Five of the rockets blasted off with Russian third stages through 2007.

The Russian stage was blamed for two minor glitches in 2001 and 2007 that stranded payloads in slightly different orbits than planned. A liquid-fueled strap-on booster triggered a dramatic explosion shortly after a launch in 2006.

Three other GSLV flights were successful."

Yes, my hateful friend, cryogenic engine tech is much more useful when building high power ballistic missiles than mica guidance systems, much more important that cruise missile guidance systems. Any insults before I go to sleep?

What a complete tool you are, You arent going to tell me how Cryogenic engines are related to ICBM's? You are such a useless tool, that it isnt funny anymore.
Worse, now you are telling me how good Cryogenic engines are to space launch vehicles, all the while you cant even produce one statement to back up your assertion that Cryogenic engines are necessary tech for ICBM's. You are a funny chicom.
 
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Launch from underwater pontoon is still on the very initial stage to develop SLBM. I know Indian friends like to show something still in the "plan", "will" stage. But until you fire SLBM from a submarine, you cannot claim you have it. Based on the history of Indian defense projects, I doubt India can launch a SLBM from submarine in the next five years, or even longer. Anyway, good luck.

it was most likely tested from a pontoon replicating arihant launch tubes.

http://expressbuzz.com/nation/drdo-readies-underwater-missile-test-fire/234790.html


The Pontoon is, however, used to test the K missiles because India does not have an operational submarine capable to undertake firing of such missiles.
 
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Launch from underwater pontoon is still on the very initial stage to develop SLBM. I know Indian friends like to show something still in the "plan", "will" stage. But until you fire SLBM from a submarine, you cannot claim you have it. Based on the history of Indian defense projects, I doubt India can launch a SLBM from submarine in the next five years, or even longer. Anyway, good luck.
if it makes you feel good fine.
 

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We were talking about SLBM not something else. I did not miss the point and you missed the topic. By the way, China already tested KKV successfully in 2007 Anti-Satellite test and 2010 midcourse Anti-Ballistic Missile test.

you miss the point, India is not going to design some 10,000 km ballistic missile. but what we are currently ( in initial stages ) designing is the kill vehicle , very similar to what ratheyon tested a short while ago , which kills the MIRV's right in space. this is going to be the major thrust for the next decade. they don't go much for offensive weapons , but for defense weapons. because the technology used for defensive weapons is much for complex and involved. any ways good luck for the success. India is not going to do exactly what china has done. your threat perception ( and showing to your own public ) is the U.S and our is not.
 

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Launch from underwater pontoon is still on the very initial stage to develop SLBM. I know Indian friends like to show something still in the "plan", "will" stage. But until you fire SLBM from a submarine, you cannot claim you have it. Based on the history of Indian defense projects, I doubt India can launch a SLBM from submarine in the next five years, or even longer. Anyway, good luck.
Still not going to make any difference when we make glass bowls out of Beijing and the rest of your petulant country.
 

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That is common to a lot of countries in East Asia, hardly something which is unique to China.

Ideological alliances can be very powerful, USSR had Communism, Socialism etc. USA has Capitalism, Democracy and Protestant Christianity. China on the other hand has nothing to offer.
China has Gobbi Manchuri & Fired rice to offer:laugh:
 

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Hey Chicom, Unlike you twits, we dont reverse engineer. Do you know how that works. Everything from Propellant mixtures, casing, welding technologies, material tech, gyro's , GPS, etc etc. You are so dumb, that you really are a oxygen thief.

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What a complete tool you are, You arent going to tell me how Cryogenic engines are related to ICBM's? You are such a useless tool, that it isnt funny anymore.
Worse, now you are telling me how good Cryogenic engines are to space launch vehicles, all the while you cant even produce one statement to back up your assertion that Cryogenic engines are necessary tech for ICBM's. You are a funny chicom.
*rollseyes* When liquid fueled rockets are used in ICBM's, such as on the R29 Sineva, cryogenic engines are essential. What do you think gives the JL2 its very long range despite the fact that it has only two stages? That would be its powerful liquid fueled second stage rocket which wouldn't you know uses cryogenic rocket engine technology.
Considering the mismatch in terms of reported and estimated nuclear warheads and the much larger yields of Chinese warheads compared to their Indian counterparts, an Indian nuclear attack on Beijing would result in India as a whole ceasing to exist. And stop being childish, why exactly would India nuke China? A sudden, impulsive death wish?
 

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Communist China has launched the SLBM.

They should be on pig's back now.

Should be able to make the US scared stiff!
 

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And stop being childish, why exactly would India nuke China? A sudden, impulsive death wish?
India is a peace-loving country that wants good relationship with its neighbours.

That is why inspite of rather bad vibes coming out of China towards India, our Foreign Minister said India do everything to help China on Tibet.

Now, if India had any bad intentions on China, would India volunteer to help China on Tibet?

So, India will never launch its nuclear missiles on Beijing or any place in China.

We are, as I said, peace loving and happy with our neighbours!

BANZAI to China!
 

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*rollseyes* When liquid fueled rockets are used in ICBM's, such as on the R29 Sineva, cryogenic engines are essential. What do you think gives the JL2 its very long range despite the fact that it has only two stages?
Chicoms and rolling eyes, can anyone see the difference. R29 Sineva never used a cryogenic engine, it is used a Liquid stage. Two different things numbnut.
JL-2 and it is stated range has nothing to do in the real world. China lying of their weapons and hailing failed weapon designs as successful's one's are quite famous. All you ----s are good for is, reverse engineering and making it worse than the original products, of outdated soviet designs.
That would be its powerful liquid fueled second stage rocket which wouldn't you know uses cryogenic rocket engine technology.
Now, it doesnt . Liquid fueld doesnt mean Cryogenic engine. Get that to your chicom pea brain.

Considering the mismatch in terms of reported and estimated nuclear warheads and the much larger yields of Chinese warheads compared to their Indian counterparts, an Indian nuclear attack on Beijing would result in India as a whole ceasing to exist. And stop being childish, why exactly would India nuke China? A sudden, impulsive death wish?
China would cease to exist after an Indian attack, if we are going down, we will be taking you with us. Maybe the world will remember's us for doing a service to mankind.
 
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This is a matter of concern but we should forget that Nuclear weapons is last option and till then Indian Missile defense shield would become mature enough to kill such missile in its way before it could reach to its target. India should keep developing its technologies.
 

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Chicoms and rolling eyes, can anyone see the difference. R29 Sineva never used a cryogenic engine, it is used a Liquid stage. Two different things numbnut.
JL-2 and it is stated range has nothing to do in the real world. China lying of their weapons and hailing failed weapon designs as successful's one's are quite famous. All you ----s are good for is, reverse engineering and making it worse than the original products, of outdated soviet designs.
Now, it doesnt . Liquid fueld doesnt mean Cryogenic engine. Get that to your chicom pea brain.

Once again, I AM CHINESE, what is a chicom? It seems your parents were lacking in teaching their children basic manners. You're officially an idiot. Did you even look that up? Liquid fueled doesnt mean cryogenic engine, true, but all the most powerful liquid fueled engines are cryogenic. All three stages of the sineva as well as the JL2's second stage. Why do you think India is trying to biuld cryogenic engines(Not with much success anyway)? Because they're pretty? Because they're the most powerful rockets one can build. If you need an education, you need but ask.

The JL2's range estimates are not from the Chinese government. You love claiming that the CCP hypes things up but it rarely says anything about high profile millitary projects vital to sovereign security. The JL2's range is estimated by WESTERN analysts at more than 8000KM. Because you dont have the capability doesnt mean we dont.

China would cease to exist after an Indian attack, if we are going down, we will be taking you with us. Maybe the world will remember's us for doing a service to mankind.
Hahaha! China is one of the largest countries on earth... India has less nuclear warheads than PAKISTAN. Even if you launched every nuke in your inventory, you cant say China would cease to exist. And whilst no one knows the exact number of nuclear warheads in the second Artillery Corps' possession, even the given 400 would be enough to wipe India out.
 
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Hahaha! China is one of the largest countries on earth... India has less nuclear warheads than PAKISTAN. Even if you launched every nuke in your inventory, you cant say China would cease to exist. And whilst no one knows the exact number of nuclear warheads in the second Artillery Corps' possession, even the given 400 would be enough to wipe India out.
You're not really aware of how nukes work, are you?
 
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Hahaha! China is one of the largest countries on earth... India has less nuclear warheads than PAKISTAN. Even if you launched every nuke in your inventory, you cant say China would cease to exist. And whilst no one knows the exact number of nuclear warheads in the second Artillery Corps' possession, even the given 400 would be enough to wipe India out.
India has more fissile material than China.India has the third highest military fissile
material in the world.More than China, and India is a non-NPT signatory can keep producing
much more.India is also the largest Heavy water producer in the world.


 
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India has more fissile material than China third highest military fissile material
in the world.More than China, and India is a non-NPT signatory can keep producing
much more.India is also the largest Heavy water producer in the world.


Can and will is two different things. Learn the difference. Both China and India can build far more bombs than what they got today.
Deterrence has limited use past a certain number.


A yankee dont need to worry about China or Indias stockpile. :rolleyes:

Once countries start tossing bombs at each other, you have already lost. Let us stop those silly d*** measuring contest.
 
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nce countries start tossing bombs at each other, you have already lost.
Your compatriots think that the Chinese would survive a nuclear exchange. Guess you guys share that with the cockroaches.
 
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Can and will is two different things. Learn the difference. Both China and India can build far more bombs than what they got today.
Deterrence has limited use past a certain number.


A yankee dont need to worry about China or Indias stockpile. :rolleyes:

Once countries start tossing bombs at each other, you have already lost. Let us stop those silly d*** measuring contest.
look at the chart China's stockpile is not even up there.For a P5 nation China
is a joke.
 
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