China deleting videos of C919 crash?

[Armand2REP]

@J20! What is my evidence of a C919 crash?


You see that aircraft taking a nose dive into the ground? It certainly isn't a Y-8 and members here have identified it as the C919. There is video proof your story doesn't match up to the party line.

 

[J20!]

@J20! What is my evidence of a C919 crash?


You see that aircraft taking a nose dive into the ground? It certainly isn't a Y-8 and members here have identified it as the C919. There is video proof your story doesn't match up to the party line.

Well that settles it then. I guess you should go on Wu Xin's qq account and tell him that according to "members on DFI" he's dead!

Your source for starting this thread, is that "members here have identified it as the C919"? That qualifies as "evidence" that a prototype that has never flown in 2018 crashed on the 29th of January 2018, a 1000+ km's from its operating base? How?

What evidence do you have that the first part of that video is a C919 and not any other twin engine mid-size airliner?
Nose dive? What evidence do you even have that that blurry footage is a crash and not a landing run? Those "fires" are exactly where the retractable landing lights on all pre-2016 737's are.

That first footage of an airliner on a landing approach has been spliced onto the crash site footage. Every news source on the crash attributes it to a Y8 series aircraft.

You and other fanboys here want the C919 programme to fail so badly that you would celebrate the crash of a prototype that never flew on the day of the crash. Do you have evidence that there was a C919 flight on Monday? *crickets*

Enjoy your celebration over your dream "C919 crash", I'll be sure to remind you of it when the B-001A has another test flight in Xian or when news of the B-001C's second test flight hit the internet...

 

[Armand2REP]

Hahahaha! Well that settles it then. I guess you should go on Wu Xin's qq account and tell him that according to "members on DFI" he's dead!

Your source for starting this thread, is that "members here have identified it as the C919"? That qualifies as "evidence" that a prototype that has never flown in 2018 crashed on the 29th of January 2018, a 1000+ km's from its operating base? How?

Bullsh*t. You have no sources to back up your theory other than your own prejudice mate.

What evidence do you have that the first part of that video is a C919 and not any other twin engine mid-size airliner?
Nose dive? What evidence do you even have that that blurry footage is a crash and not a landing run? Those "fires" are exactly where the retractable landing lights on all pre-2016 737's are.

That first footage of an airliner on a landing approach has been spliced onto the crash site footage.

But I realize it doesn't really matter what facts are put on the table. You and other fanboys here want the C919 programme to fail so badly that you would concoct a theory on how a prototype crashed irregardless of the facts with 0 sources.

Enjoy your celebration over your dream "C919 crash", I'll be sure to remind you of it when the B-001A has another test flight in Xian or when news of the B-001C's second test flight hit the internet...

That airliner was coming in at twice the speed of a safe landing approach and dropping altitude at the same rate. It crashed and that is your burning wreckage, clearly not a Y-8. You want to argue it as a 737 that is more believable but the wing and nose bulge suggest a C919 more than 737.

Then you have the bigger problem of why all the secrecy for a 737 crash? That is no national emergency that requires a media and government blackout. The bodies were taking straight to the incinerator with no family notifications. Only a crash of C919 would provoke such an overreaction for a 737.

 

[J20!]

That airliner was coming in at twice the speed of a safe landing approach and dropping altitude at the same rate. It crashed and that is your burning wreckage, clearly not a Y-8. You want to argue it as a 737 that is more believable but the wing and nose bulge suggest a C919 more than 737.

Then you have the bigger problem of why all the secrecy for a 737 crash? That is no national emergency that requires a media and government blackout. The bodies were taking straight to the incinerator with no family notifications. Only a crash of C919 would provoke such an overreaction for a 737.

That airliner footage is not a crash. I would ask how you're able to assess speed and altitude loss with your mk1 eyeball from such grainy footage, but you're a known bullsh*tter mate.

Please provide one news source reporting that crash as an airliner, let alone a C919. *I won't hold my breath*. And you saw the bodies being taken straight to the incinerator did you?

If only the 5 C919 programme test pilots knew so many Indians wished them dead. Like I said, I look forward to posting pictures of them alive and well during the next few test flights. Till then prepare your excuses/dodges and enjoy your celebration over the "fantasy C919 crash".

 

[shiphone]

guys ,the monkey trick should be over... we have seen enough joke of the shameless loosers...

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http://kj.81.cn/content/2018-01/30/content_7925405.htm

.three days ago, the PLAAF Official account on social media : an airplane crashed in Guizhou during the routine training in the afternoon of Jan 29th .

. 12 crew onboard sacrificed (5 air crews and 7 combat crews...name list ignored here) .... RIP

. the plane belongs to PLAAF XXth Div...it was 'published' as a Y-8 airlifter but we all know it was an Electronic jammer based on Y-8 catalogue III platform

 

[J20!]

guys ,the monkey trick should be over... we have seen enough joke of the shameless loosers...

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http://kj.81.cn/content/2018-01/30/content_7925405.htm

.three days ago, the PLAAF Official account on social media : an airplane crashed in Guizhou during the routine training in the afternoon of Jan 29th .

. 12 crew aboard sacrificed (5 air crews and 7 combat crews) .... RIP

. the plane belongs to PLAAF XXth Div...it was 'published' as a Y-8 airlifter but we all know it was an Electronic jammer based on Y-8 catalogue III platform

Wishing their families comfort in their time of grief.

And it is a great loss to the PLAAF too considering how specialized a crew this was.

 

[Certified Gipsy]

guys ,the monkey trick should be over... we have seen enough joke of the shameless loosers...

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http://kj.81.cn/content/2018-01/30/content_7925405.htm

.three days ago, the PLAAF Official account on social media : an airplane crashed in Guizhou during the routine training in the afternoon of Jan 29th .

. 12 crew onboard sacrificed (5 air crews and 7 combat crews...name list ignored here) .... RIP

. the plane belongs to PLAAF XXth Div...it was 'published' as a Y-8 airlifter but we all know it was an Electronic jammer based on Y-8 catalogue III platform

LOL at these jokers that cannot differentiate between Y-8 and a proper passenger jet. these people love to be fooled by their commie masters.

 

[shiphone]

LOL...who are the jokers was very obviouse in this thread...

I hope the idiot might be able to understand that the video was 'made' by two video clips: the B737 in the landing route over the head and the Y-8 varient wreckage on the ground, coz the crash happened near the airport.... if this video was requested to be deleted on social media , misleading could be the real reason.

BTW, the idiots can't distinguish some obvious features of the Y-8 parts (the main landing gear...etc) in that video and even the PLAAF tactics number '3XXXX ' on tail part remainings could be seen, these were WELL discussed already when the tragedy happend days ago

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some idiot can enjoy those 'idolum' and so called superiority feeling after continuous brainwashing by the western media and ruling class.. we have seen too much these years....good for you

 

[HariPrasad-1]

Actually they claim of all successes of long march old version but So far as I remember there were many crashes and they could sort out problem only with US help at that time.

 

[HariPrasad-1]

LOL...who are the jokers was very obviouse in this thread...

I hope the idiot might be able to understand that the video was 'made' by two video clips: the B737 in the landing route over the head and the Y-8 varient wreckage on the ground, coz the crash happened near the airport.... if this video was requested to be deleted on social media , misleading could be the real reason.

BTW, the idiots can't distinguish some obvious features of the Y-8 parts (the main landing gear...etc) in that video and even the PLAAF tactics number '3XXXX ' on tail part remainings could be seen, these were WELL discussed already when the tragedy happend days ago

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some idiot can enjoy those 'idolum' and so called superiority feeling after continuous brainwashing by the western media and ruling class.. we have seen too much these years....good for you

There is an excessive use of word Idiot in your post than any argument or rational. A typical chinese mentality. Atleast 9 J10 had fallen down in 2 years. When I posted this on PDF, chinese opposed it you do here. One educated in CPC reeducation camp can hardly think rationally. Dictatorial and totalitarian regime vs Democracy is a big difference. Communist spend more time in justifying and hiding their failure than correcting it and that is why they always remains miserable.

 

[J20!]

LOL at these jokers that cannot differentiate between Y-8 and a proper passenger jet. these people love to be fooled by their commie masters.

Y-8G long-range jammer crashes 12 people dead
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HENRI KENHMANN

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On the evening of Monday, January 29, around 8:40 pm local time, the Chinese Air Force issued a short statement that one of their aircraft crashed in the Guizhou Mountain Province, during training that took place earlier in the afternoon, and that rescue operations are underway. The official text did not mention any details about the type of devices or the state of research, but by combining local sources and elements published on Chinese social networks, we learn that it would actually be a Y-8G electronic jammer aircraft, and that the 5 crew members and 7 operators on board would all have died in the crash.

If this is confirmed, then it will be the deadliest accident of the Chinese Air Force since June 2006, when a prototype AWACS KJ-200 crashed in the east of the country because of icing wing, killing all of the forty people on board, mainly technicians and engineers from the 38th CETC Institute.

We still know very little about the accident, but it was around 17:35 local time that the first message about a possible plane crash at Zunyi Xinzhou airport appeared on the Chinese social network Weibo (an equivalent of American Twitter), without specifying the type of aircraft concerned.

A first video began to circulate shortly after and shows the flight of a plane that resembles an Airbus A320 type commercial jet airliner flying at very low altitude, then the next scene shows wrecks on fire. But it turns out that the first part of this video has nothing to do with the crash.

It is then on one of the amateur videos diffused later by the local inhabitants that one finds the first index on the identity of the apparatus. Indeed, we can see on a passage some figures that end with "13" or "513" written on a sign, and they could correspond to the registration of a military aircraft.


Part of the wreckage showing a registration ending in "13"


The Y-8G registered 30513 that crashed last January 29.








At the same time, journalists from the Beijing Beijing News press were able to contact Suiyang County City Hall (绥阳 县), who confirmed the plane crash in Zheng Chang Zhen Village (郑 场 镇), 9 km away. north of Zunyi Xinzhou Airport. The press article was quickly removed from the site but the information has already been picked up by many Chinese media.

And it is several sources close to the Chinese Air Force that finally converge to say that it is a Y-8G registered 30513, belonging to a regiment of the 20th Division which is stationed a priori at the air base of Leizhuang (磊 庄), a hundred kilometers from the crash site, which is concerned by this fatal accident.




The place of the crash (Images: East Pendulum)
Characterized by its two wide lateral radomes that could host ECM antennas, the Y-8G is based on the Y-8 Category II platform and its inaugural flight dates back to 2004.

This aircraft specializes in long-range electronic jamming has entered into service with the Chinese Air Force with a relatively limited number, about a dozen. Some are deployed to the east and fly regularly over the Pacific Ocean in operations around the first chain of islands, while the rest are stationed in southwest China to handle the direction. from India, including the one that crashed on Monday.


Y-8Gs and other "special" aircraft on the final assembly line

Note that the Chinese army has already lost 10 aircraft in a single year 2017, among which are a J-10AH, a J-11BH and a J-15 of the navy, a J-10S two-seater, two J-10A and an Air Force JH-7A bomber fighter, as well as a JL-8 from the Air Force School and an Army Mi-171 helicopter. 7 pilots died.

And with a new training program that has just been published by the Central Military Commission, which further intensifies the training topics to be even closer to the actual fights, we could already foresee a possible increase of the accidents. of this kind in the next two years.

To be continued.

Henri K.

http://www.eastpendulum.com/crash-dun-brouilleur-longue-portee-y-8g-faisant-12-morts

The names of the 12 personnel lost in this crash are on the appendix of this article. I'd rather not post them on @Armand2REP 's joke thread out of respect for these servicemen.

 

[Akshay_Fenix]

Does the Y8 have magical powers that makes itself from a 4 engine to a 2 engine aircraft mid air!!!!.

First the news was 40 dead then it becomes 43 dead and now 12 dead.
Must be really depressing for the families. RIP

 

[lcafanboy]

Does the Y8 have magical powers that makes itself from a 4 engine to a 2 engine aircraft mid air!!!!.

Yeah it's a TRANSFORMER plane. It can change from 4 turbo prop engine to 2 jet engine or single engine Fighter or even turbo prop Drone. Truly Chinese invention.....

 

[Armand2REP]

So please give them benefit of doubt, if they say it was 4 engined Y-8 instead of twin engine C919 then please accept.

Who is them? The government hasn't said anything. No casualty list, no aircraft type. The "anonymous source" that floated 12 dead and a Y-8 that is making its rounds in the Chinese papers is a nobody on cd whose latest thread title is "The day China launch its nuke powered Carrier is the day India Bows down."

 

[lcafanboy]

"The day China launch its nuke powered Carrier is the day India Bows down."

India Bows down.....OMG haven't they heard of BRAHMOS & SU30mki combo which will be stationed at Andamans and in future Nicobar too which can effectively reach south china sea?:biggrin2::biggrin2:

A salvo of 6-9 BRAHMOS from a stand off distance from a couple of SU30mkis (since SU 30 MKI will be Carrying 3 Brahmos NG in future) and that nuke powered carrier will most probably become a good radioactive coral reef. So it is chinese who should fear that their $10-15 billion dollar toy would not be able to cross Malacca Straits...........

 

[Armand2REP]

Let us revisit this topic...

There has not been a documented test flight of C919 in 2018.

There was a scheduled long haul flight for the end of January at the time of this crash. http://bit.ly/2EBf1p5

Coincidence?

 

[Yggdrasil]

--Racist post removed--

Hmm! With all due respect, many people in our North-East look "Chinese", and there are many countries that are good friends of India full of people with that look. Not sure it's fruitful to take about racial characteristics in this manner.

Our problem is with the evil, murderous, mendacious CCP regime and its support base, not the Chinese race.

 

[rockdog]

Yeah it's a TRANSFORMER plane. It can change from 4 turbo prop engine to 2 jet engine or single engine Fighter or even turbo prop Drone. Truly Chinese invention.....

Does the Y8 have magical powers that makes itself from a 4 engine to a 2 engine aircraft mid air!!!!.

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First the news was 40 dead then it becomes 43 dead and now 12 dead.
Must be really depressing for the families. RIP

First:

I think so far no evidence showed this was the plane crashed in this accident.
In fact, it's quite like just some normal civil plane with landing lights on:

The footage might be quite edited and came different resources.

Second:
The PLA already officially publish the memorial meeting for the pilots and crew.

The PLAF won't risky his reputation if the crashed plane doesn't belong to him.

And the details for the memorial meeting are everywhere on Chinese news portal:
http://www.dzwww.com/xinwen/guoneixinwen/201802/t20180204_17005992.htm

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2018-02-04/doc-ifyreuzn2626959.shtml

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2018-02-04/doc-ifyremfz4719346.shtml

 

[Armand2REP]

First:

I think so far no evidence showed this was the plane crashed in this accident.
In fact, it's quite like just some normal civil plane with landing lights on:

The footage might be quite edited and came different resources.

Second:
The PLA already officially publish the memorial meeting for the pilots and crew.

The PLAF won't risky his reputation if the crashed plane doesn't belong to him.

And the details for the memorial meeting are everywhere on Chinese news portal:
http://www.dzwww.com/xinwen/guoneixinwen/201802/t20180204_17005992.htm

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/2018-02-04/doc-ifyreuzn2626959.shtml

http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2018-02-04/doc-ifyremfz4719346.shtml

All it says is air force plane crashed, memorial services... No aircraft type, no number of casualties.

He is wearing the uniform of an airline pilot.

 

[rockdog]

All it says is air force plane crashed, memorial services... No aircraft type, no number of casualties.

He is wearing the uniform of an airline pilot.

Good find, some facts there:

1. It comes from his collage classmate's memorial article, the article was talking about the old days when him as trainee pilot.

https://news.sina.cn/2018-02-08/det...gpagew&mod=f&loc=1&r=9&doct=0&rfunc=0&tj=none

I believed this uniform was for trainee pilots, and the article says the classmate were finally sent to the PLAF.

大四时在部队的选飞中脱颖而出，圆了飞行梦。经过两年严酷的学习训练和层层的选拔淘汰，他凭借自身努力，成为一名光荣的空军飞行员。

2. The article says Mr Zou was birth on 1989, the age under 30 yrs old hardly been a C919 testing pilot.

3. The testing pilot crew, with the uniform: