China completes world's biggest telescope | ABC Online

[Innocent]

This reminds me of Battlefield 4.

 

[Flame Thrower]

Now this is a serious question. If they have no one to run it, how they have built it in the first place!?

Buy reading some stuff it is less advanced (Fast is only passive) than it's competitor Arecibo (it is active can be used to detect near Earth astreoids.

By the way Americans are planning to shutdown the Arecibo, so that $ 8 million can be freed up to be used somewhere else.

@AnantS and @Indx TechStyle , both of you can go and have fun

 

[Krusty]

The title is misleading.. it should say worlds largest radio telescope. In comparison to this 500m aperture, the worlds largest optical (single) telescope has an aperture of just 11 meters.

Radio telescopes are easier and far cheaper (per meter aperture) than optical telescopes.

 

[sorcerer]

Now this is a serious question. If they have no one to run it, how they have built it in the first place!?

its china...china have an army that doesnt know how to fight...they call them soldiers
china have an aircraft carrier which they dont know how to build or operate...still they say they made it themselves
china have made a jet which is not sure how it will fly even to the pilots who fly it..still they call it WORLDS BEST aircraft.
china have diplomats who doesnt know how to behave at international events...still the call them diplomats while others call them clowns.
china have diplomacy that doesnt offer anything but only takes and still they call it DIPLOMACY!!
china has a media which only reports what the CCP wants still they call it unbiased media.
the list goes on..
and now they have the worlds biggest telescope without an operator to handle it.

Thats what happen when you STEAL ..COPY and Make STUFF!!
china makes it but have no idea what it does or what to do with it!!

 

[Khagesh]

Koi na ji, our army will also import one and then we will negotiate for ToT and then we will call it indigenous.

 

[Bahamut]

Now this is a serious question. If they have no one to run it, how they have built it in the first place!?

Buy reading some stuff it is less advanced (Fast is only passive) than it's competitor Arecibo (it is active can be used to detect near Earth astreoids.

By the way Americans are planning to shutdown the Arecibo, so that $ 8 million can be freed up to be used somewhere else.

@AnantS and @Indx TechStyle , both of you can go and have fun

They have set the requirement to high , the leader of Chinese Academy of Science leader has said that the no of qualified candidates are less the 50 and no one will leave their present telescopes for this new one .

 

[Krusty]

Now this is a serious question. If they have no one to run it, how they have built it in the first place!?

Buy reading some stuff it is less advanced (Fast is only passive) than it's competitor Arecibo (it is active can be used to detect near Earth astreoids.

By the way Americans are planning to shutdown the Arecibo, so that $ 8 million can be freed up to be used somewhere else.

@AnantS and @Indx TechStyle , both of you can go and have fun

Radio telescopes aren't hard to build as compared to optical telescopes. Radio telescopes aren't any different from the satellite dish you have in your terrace to receive signals for your TV. Optical telescopes are a different story altogether. Grinding just one metre of mirror/Lens will take years and millions of $ in funding and immense expertise.

All you need is more money to build bigger radio telescopes . You don't need great expertise.

In reality this radio telescope

Is nothing more than this, only bigger.

As I said before, optical telescopes however, is a completely different story. Not everyone can do it.

So to people who aren't familiar with telescopes, nothing extraordinary was done by china. All you need is invest a lot of money and land and you can come up with this too. No big deal. Properly using it however, is another question. Something that china is proving as we speak.

 

[Khagesh]

In reality this radio telescope
Is nothing more than this, only bigger.

View attachment 18737

Sure enough . Make In India has been so successful that we import that too.

Partial list for just 2 months - just when Vijay Varghiya had given the call for boycott of chinese imports

https://www.zauba.com/import-DISH+ANTENNA/hs-code-8529-hs-code.html

Date HS Code Description Origin Country Port of Discharge Unit Quantity Value (INR) Per Unit (INR)
Nov192016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL: E0601B215L-01 China Chennai Sea PCS 6,500 2,279,378 351
Nov192016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL: E0601B215L-01 China Chennai Sea PCS 6,500 2,279,378 351
Nov112016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,265,723 349
Nov112016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,265,723 349
Nov112016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,265,723 349
Nov082016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,316,922 356
Nov052016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL: E0601B215L-01 China Chennai Sea PCS 6,500 2,277,693 350
Nov022016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,315,208 356
Oct242016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Kanakpura - Jaipur ICD PCS 6,500 2,264,048 348
Oct242016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL: E0601B215L-01 China Chennai Sea PCS 6,500 2,276,007 350
Oct212016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,315,208 356
Oct212016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,315,208 356
Oct212016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,315,208 356
Oct212016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,262,372 348
Oct212016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO:E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,262,372 348
Oct172016 85291019 90 CM ANTENNA DISH WITH ACCESSORIES (FOR DTH) (AZ - 90R5 - EMT) Taiwan Nhava Sheva Sea SET 2,660 2,729,071 1,026
Oct152016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL: E0601B215L-01 China Chennai Sea PCS 6,500 2,276,007 350
Oct142016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA(C-150CM)(FOR CABLE TV NETWORK) China Chennai Sea SET 100 63,082 631
Oct142016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA(C-180CM)(FOR CABLE TV NETWORK) China Chennai Sea SET 910 821,857 903
Oct142016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO:E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,262,372 348
Oct142016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,262,372 348
Oct132016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,323,780 358
Oct132016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,323,780 358
Oct132016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NUMBER:E0601B215L-01 China Kolkata Sea PCS 6,500 2,323,780 358
Oct102016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL: E0601B215L-01 China Chennai Sea PCS 6,500 2,284,435 351
Oct102016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO - E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,270,749 349
Oct102016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO - E0601B215L-01 China Nhava Sheva Sea PCS 6,500 2,270,749 349
Oct062016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Kanakpura - Jaipur ICD PCS 6,500 2,274,170 350
Oct062016 85291019 DISH ANTENNA (KU BAND ELLIPTICAL) MODEL NO: E0601B215L-01 China Kanakpura - Jaipur ICD PCS 6,500 2,274,170 350
Oct062016 85291019 C/KU BAND DISH ANTENNA (MODEL NO.ECO-9180) China Tughlakabad SET 308 448,377 1,456

 

[Flame Thrower]

Radio telescopes aren't hard to build as compared to optical telescopes. Radio telescopes aren't any different from the satellite dish you have in your terrace to receive signals for your TV. Optical telescopes are a different story altogether. Grinding just one metre of mirror/Lens will take years and millions of $ in funding and immense expertise.

All you need is more money to build bigger radio telescopes . You don't need great expertise.

In reality this radio telescope

View attachment 18735

Is nothing more than this, only bigger.

View attachment 18737


As I said before, optical telescopes however, is a completely different story. Not everyone can do it.

So to people who aren't familiar with telescopes, nothing extraordinary was done by china. All you need is invest a lot of money and land and you can come up with this too. No big deal. Properly using it however, is another question. Something that china is proving as we speak.

So you're saying that building one is easy, but according to them operating it is hard(only 50 people in the world are able to qualify it).

I don't mean to criticize any one. But just look at this sense. "Building bike is easy, but difficult to operate it". First how all the checks related to building this had taken place. How does anyone knows that it will work perfectly fine!?

No matter what you say, it is lot more than a giant dish. Super computers to operate that thing. Frequency testing, recordings, analysing the data, everything else!? What happened to all of it!? Who tested it while building this thing!? China does operate nearly half a dozen radio telescopes, what makes FAST so special that it can be built, but not to operate!? I don't get the logic.

My strange theory:

I think some "X" country helped (might have lended their scientists) to build the dish and check it works perfectly. Before the operations/completion of the structure and it's 100% testing, clashes might have happened between China and "X" country. Thus resulting the "X" country to pull all it's resources.

Chinese might have completed the construction of FAST based on the blue prints, but they need someone to test it and teach operations to Chinese. That might be the reason why roughly 50 of 7 billion are qualified to do the job.

I also think that "X" country is America as they have lot of experience operating Arecibo.

My theory could be entirely wrong too.

Thus I rest my case.