China can destroy the F-22 in eight different ways

[AbRaj]

1. China can detonate a megaton-class thermonuclear weapon 100 miles above the surface. The EMP is equivalent to tasering every microchip in the F-22 with 50,000 volts.

2. China can use ballistic and cruise missiles to destroy the oil tanks on the seven US bases in the Pacific. Without fuel, an F-22 can't fly.

3. China can shoot down the KC-135 tankers that are necessary to refuel the short-legged F-22, which has a combat radius of only 435 nautical miles. Without air refueling, the F-22 cannot venture beyond 535 nautical miles including fuel drop-tanks.

4. China can use ballistic and cruise missile cluster bombs to destroy the runway. Without a runway, an F-22 can't take off or land.

5. China can destroy the repair and maintenance facilities for the F-22. Without the elaborate and meticulous repairs to the F-22's 600-pound stealth coating, the F-22 is not stealthy.

6. Using the Chinese KJ-2000 AWACS and KJ-200 AEW&C L-band anti-stealth radars, stealthy J-20s and J-31s can intercept F-22s.

7. Using Chinese ground-based anti-stealth radars (including circular polarization, VHF, or UHF), SAMs can be guided to shoot down F-22s.

8. China is working on the Anjian (ie. Dark Sword) supersonic stealth UCAV, which can maneuver at 12-15Gs. The Anjian should be able to outmaneuver and shoot down the F-22.

In conclusion, China has a myriad of methods to destroy the F-22.

LOL, you always come up with some innovative ideas......
But why not simply carpet bomb entire US of A with Nukes if it is so much easy for PR of C:biggrin2:

 

[garg_bharat]

It is irrelevant. India has no such capability. Thus, do not claim that "anyone" can do it.

India has not publically announced its capability.

So I have to ask, how do you know?

China will sure counter f22 and f35. However detonating nukes for that is a silly thought.

 

[Kshatriya87]

# 10. Use the "CHI" inside you & KUNG-FU that bit&h down.

 

[Martian]

India has not publically announced its capability.

So I have to ask, how do you know?

China will sure counter f22 and f35. However detonating nukes for that is a silly thought.

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory examined the seismic data from the Indian nuclear tests (see citation below from the Federation of American Scientists).

The highest estimated Indian yield is 25 kilotons. The average estimate is only about 18 kilotons. Thus, India only possesses atomic weaponry.

The Chinese 1964 atomic test was 22 kilotons. The Chinese 1967 thermonuclear test was 3.3 megatons.
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http://fas.org/nuke/guide/india/nuke/

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory examined the seismic data from the Indian nuclear tests (see citation below from the Federation of American Scientists).

The highest estimated Indian yield is 25 kilotons. The average estimate is only about 18 kilotons. Thus, India only possesses atomic weaponry.

The Chinese 1964 atomic test was 22 kilotons. The Chinese 1967 thermonuclear test was 3.3 megatons.
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http://fas.org/nuke/guide/india/nuke/

Agre with that but India has already crossed many of hurdles since 1998 by expertizing in other nuclear tests.

Our problem is the sanctions imposed on us by UN for ratifying NPT(which we actually never signed ).
If we get time and chance, we can develop thermonuclear weapons.
Probably will happen in WW3. Our conventional forces are also enough large to give us time to develop TN weapons.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

It is irrelevant. India has no such capability. Thus, do not claim that "anyone" can do it.

Other nations have megaton capability and do not sit on security council (Israel and Japan under us nuclear umbrella)You don't need mega tonnage for emp blast or even the use of nuclear weapons.



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[LETHALFORCE]

If any of this was even remotely attempted Ohio subs in the pacific would destroy Chinese eastern seaboard within a few hours


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[harsh]

Ohh man
3.3 magaton thermonuclear bomb just for a aircraft
This is the dumbest idea.
Come on china can devlop a AESA RADAR which looks like PESA that can see every stealth aircraft and can destroy it with its cheap Chinese missile having a sensor range of some light years.

Now I think even quality of dreams in china is a matter of concern

 

[Martian]

Ohh man
3.3 magaton thermonuclear bomb just for a aircraft
This is the dumbest idea.
Come on china can devlop a AESA RADAR which looks like PESA that can see every stealth aircraft and can destroy it with its cheap Chinese missile having a sensor range of some light years.

Now I think even quality of dreams in china is a matter of concern

Who said anything about one aircraft?

One megaton-class EMP would nullify all US bases on Japan.

Another megaton-class EMP would nullify all US aircraft on Guam.

With two Chinese megaton-class EMPs, the US has no functioning aircraft in Asia.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Who said anything about one aircraft?

One megaton-class EMP would nullify all US bases on Japan.

Another megaton-class EMP would nullify all US aircraft on Guam.

With two Chinese megaton-class EMPs, the US has no functioning aircraft in Asia.

What about the retaliation?

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[punjab47]

Who said anything about one aircraft?

One megaton-class EMP would nullify all US bases on Japan.

Another megaton-class EMP would nullify all US aircraft on Guam.

With two Chinese megaton-class EMPs, the US has no functioning aircraft in Asia.

& a few kiloton emp over Beijing Shanghai or Hong Kong means you go back to starving peasants.

China can destroy f22 by feeding pilots lead milk in childhood.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

One megaton-class EMP would nullify all US bases on Japan.

No it won't. US bases in Japan are scattered far enough.

Another megaton-class EMP would nullify all US aircraft on Guam.

First of all what is megaton-class EMP. Dropping a megaton yeild nuke will cause destruction to such a extent that their will be nothing to damage with EMP. How are you going to locate CBG in war times are accurately drop payload on CBG?

With two Chinese megaton-class EMPs, the US has no functioning aircraft in Asia.

No US have major bases in Japan and Korea with CBG. 2 nukes won't be enough to take all of them out.
I don't get your logic you drop nukes on Americans and Americans don't do anything???

 

[Martian]

No it won't. US bases in Japan are scattered far enough.

First of all what is megaton-class EMP. Dropping a megaton yeild nuke will cause destruction to such a extent that their will be nothing to damage with EMP. How are you going to locate CBG in war times are accurately drop payload on CBG?

No US have major bases in Japan and Korea with CBG. 2 nukes won't be enough to take all of them out.
I don't get your logic you drop nukes on Americans and Americans don't do anything???

A megaton-class EMP covers a diameter of 2,000 miles. One Chinese DF-31A ICBM or JL-2 SLBM one-megaton warhead would knock out all US aircraft in Japan.

 

[AbRaj]

A megaton-class EMP covers a diameter of 2,000 miles. One Chinese DF-31A ICBM or JL-2 SLBM one-megaton warhead would knock out all US aircraft in Japan.

Ironically all Chinese and it's allies talk about now a days "are nuke this nuke that" though they have world's largest army, Navy, and airforce (well almost)

 

[harsh]

Ironically all Chinese and it's allies talk about now a days "are nuke this nuke that" though they have world's largest army, Navy, and airforce (well almost)

Chinese and porkies are almost of same kind . They don't trust themselves. They afraid of war but cry war war most of the time.
When anyone do something they cry nukes nukes.
They don't even know that usa has biggest arsenal of nukes if they decide to nuke china they never think about airports or some facility or accuracy. Just a thousand nukes on china . And then Chinese couldn't even ride a bicycle forget about aircrafts. Even after thousand nukes usa have 3 to 4 thousands nukes to destroy china after 50 years again and again till stock ends

 

[AbRaj]

Chinese and porkies are almost of same kind . They don't trust themselves. They afraid of war but cry war war most of the time.
When anyone do something they cry nukes nukes.
They don't even know that usa has biggest arsenal of nukes if they decide to nuke china they never think about airports or some facility or accuracy. Just a thousand nukes on china . And then Chinese couldn't even ride a bicycle forget about aircrafts. Even after thousand nukes usa have 3 to 4 thousands nukes to destroy china after 50 years again and again till stock ends

Of course USA will nuke them to such an extent that even their ghosts will be afraid to Harbor that barren cold desert
US have done this in past and they can do it in future too

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[Dark Sorrow]

A megaton-class EMP covers a diameter of 2,000 miles. One Chinese DF-31A ICBM or JL-2 SLBM one-megaton warhead would knock out all US aircraft in Japan.

Quick question what about MP-hardened electronics or better if F-22 are put in Faraday's cage?

 

[Martian]

Quick question what about MP-hardened electronics or better if F-22 are put in Faraday's cage?

You can't harden computer chips and electronic components against 50,000 volts. Hardening against a few hundred volts is something that I can believe. Not 50,000 volts.

You can't use a Faraday Cage, because there's no way to ground it.

As a reminder, a megaton-class EMP will also fry the computer chips and electronics in a fuel pump truck. You can't maintain an airforce when the tankers, radars, and all support equipment are non-functional.

 

[Dark Sorrow]

You can't harden computer chips and electronic components against 50,000 volts. Hardening against a few hundred volts is something that I can believe. Not 50,000 volts.

Actually you can. Modern radiation hardened IC and new design technique help defeat a EMP.
One must remember 50,000 volts will be at ground zero but energy drastically reduce as you go away from ground zero. Energy decreases in a way that is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the ground zero in free space.

You can't use a Faraday Cage, because there's no way to ground it.

You can if the plane is on ground.

As a reminder, a megaton-class EMP will also fry the computer chips and electronics in a fuel pump truck. You can't maintain an airforce when the tankers, radars, and all support equipment are non-functional.

But modern technology are radiation hardened and modern EMP resistant design technique help a lot against EMP.
Also you tend to forget such movement of strategic weapons are generally caught by intelligence.
You also have not given a thought enemy retaliation.

 

[Martian]

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