China beats India by a huge margin

[jon88]

@jon88
Since 1995, Transparency
International (TI) publishes
the Corruption Perceptions
Index (CPI) annually ranking
countries "by their perceived
levels of corruption, as
determined by expert
assessments and opinion
surveys."[1] The CPI generally
defines corruption as "the
misuse of public power for
private benefit."[2] As of
2010[update], the CPI ranks
178 countries "on a scale
from 10 (very clean) to 0
(highly corrupt)."[3]
China ranks at 75, Indian
ranks at 95.
reference :Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

reference :Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to your reference which is the above link, China is within the 40-49 region while India is in the 30-39 region. I am confused here, which number is the correct index number?

Where did you get the 75 and 95 from?

 

[jon88]

Who is a liberal hindu ? A person who votes for the congress?

Opposite of extremist Hindu I suppose.

But the question I ask you was how do you come to the conclusion that the statement I made suggest that extremist Hindus are the majority. I looked at the statement and are baffled as to how you could come up with such conclusion, as it did not even mention that extremist Hindus are the majority.

 

[Voldemort]

It's an apple and orange situation...free to starve in India or live prosperously but with curtailed freedom in China.

If given an option i would choose the later because at least i can have 2 square meals a day.

I am not starving in India. We have 30% people BPL and you have 12%. That will come down if we continue to grow at a brisk rate. And it will happen with democracy, with fundamental rights, and with freedom to protest against the govt without fear of tanks and armed soldiers. And also the right to have two babies.

 

[rock127]

Give Congress yet another term and we could proudly match GDP of Somalia within 5 years.

 

[jon88]

Give Congress yet another term and we could proudly match GDP of Somalia within 5 years.

Absolutely agree.. Lets hope there is a fundamental change in governance for the betterment of India

 

[maomao]

Con-gress / Secular / Left MUKT Bharat is the only solution !!

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

The reference piece you provided is a columnist article or otherwise called an opinion piece. You can hardly call that as credible proof.

then aren't we discussing on a survey. What if chinese have paid money to print goodie goodie about them

 

[Peter]

then aren't we discussing on a survey. What if chinese have paid money to print goodie goodie about them

Well i am a supporter of democracy and do value the freedom of speech and will given by the Indian Constitution.However jon88 is right. China does beat India in a lot of sectors currently. Unless we put in a lot of effort to root out some of the evils of modern India we would continue to lag behind them.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

reference :

According to your reference which is the above link, China is within the 40-49 region while India is in the 30-39 region. I am confused here, which number is the correct index number?

Where did you get the 75 and 95 from?

ok we have laws to get information of gov sector and without any such law china is near us, china would have surpassed india if media get right to check gov sector , without any freedom and less rights china faces same problem that india faces........
there is a line written by rabidranath tagore
WHERE IS MIND WITHOUT FEAR
WHERE THE HEAD IS HELD HIGH
chinese have to follow what there politicians say ,there is no self respect and their own decision are inferior to decision of state . There mind is feared cause if they speak any thing ie anti china,pro america,pro india then they faces sentence. Can't file a case against gov, we blame gov for everything ie shamelessness

 

[Patriot]

Who is a liberal hindu ? A person who votes for the congress?

By practice in sickular politics a normal Hindu is considered extremist one and rest extremist Muslims & Christians are considered normal ones.

There is nothing like an extremist Hindus as they do not convert others by means of force, threats & rest of all the unholy means.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

Well i am a supporter of democracy and do value the freedom of speech and will given by the Indian Constitution.However jon88 is right. China does beat India in a lot of sectors currently. Unless we put in a lot of effort to root out some of the evils of modern India we would continue to lag behind them.

why we try to compare china cause there and our conditions are totally different they have better natural resource,different form of government,more area ,if you want to compare india with someone them compare it with pakistan cause both achieved freedom same time both have democracy and nearly same natural resource, AND you know the result that india is beating pak from the day we achieved freedom.look at pak, will anyone think that we and pak were at same stage 67 year ago, we developed our nation in such way that even america now neglecting pak and making friendship with india
china are ahead from 1980 cause they accepted privatisation,liberalisation,globalisation in 1979

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

By practice in sickular politics a normal Hindu is considered extremist one and rest extremist Muslims & Christians are considered normal ones.

There is nothing like an extremist Hindus as they do not convert others by means of force, threats & rest of all the unholy means.

true but I have already posted a post which means same ,post about why there can't be hindu fascism or dictatorship . But you know some members can't connect a post with other one

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

I am not starving in India. We have 30% people BPL and you have 12%. That will come down if we continue to grow at a brisk rate. And it will happen with democracy, with fundamental rights, and with freedom to protest against the govt without fear of tanks and armed soldiers. And also the right to have two babies.

and even right to have 3 or more than 3 babies

 

[CrYsIs]

I am not starving in India. We have 30% people BPL and you have 12%. That will come down if we continue to grow at a brisk rate. And it will happen with democracy, with fundamental rights, and with freedom to protest against the govt without fear of tanks and armed soldiers. And also the right to have two babies.

Firstly, I am an Indian,not chinese

Secondly be patriotic but don't be so blindly patriotic that you start ignoring the reality.


Indians have fundamental rights and so called freedom only on paper and not in reality.This fundamental rights that you enjoy depends on your socio economic status.

If you are rich and well off then not only you enjoy the 7 fundamental rights prescribed in the constitution but also the right to subvert the law of the land and become an authority by yourself.

But if you are poor and downtrodden then you don't even have the right to dignity and the right to live a dignified life.

 

[CrYsIs]

Opposite of extremist Hindu I suppose.

But the question I ask you was how do you come to the conclusion that the statement I made suggest that extremist Hindus are the majority. I looked at the statement and are baffled as to how you could come up with such conclusion, as it did not even mention that extremist Hindus are the majority.

Your statements appears that way.

Now tell me if i vote for the BJP and modi, do i become a communal person ?

 

[Mad Indian]

China leads India by 12-14 years, the difference between the day they started their liberalisation which was in 1979 against our liberalisation which was started only in 1991. In short, China learned Socialism is crap way back in 1979 unlike India. and from the looks in the internet, India still has not learnt from the mistakes of the crappy socialist regimes around the world. There are several dumb nuts who think socialism is great even now!

Only, way to beat it is to bring in more liberalisation and privatisation instead of the socialist welfare shit, .ie by voting in BJP for next 15years instead of the Congress crap

 

[Voldemort]

Firstly, I am an Indian,not chinese

Secondly be patriotic but don't be so blindly patriotic that you start ignoring the reality.


Indians have fundamental rights and so called freedom only on paper and not in reality.This fundamental rights that you enjoy depends on your socio economic status.

Being pessimistic and losing hope is not the solution. Yes some influential people become too powerful. But more often than not, the law catches up with them. Would u be in a place where t will be gunned down for protesting? Democracy ensures that people have a say. Its some politicians that are bad, not the system.

 

[Voldemort]

and even right to have 3 or more than 3 babies

Two is more than enough, I think. LOL.

 

[jon88]

Your statements appears that way.

Now tell me if i vote for the BJP and modi, do i become a communal person ?

How in the world can the statement imply that extremist Hindus are the majority? How convenient can you just say it appears that way. Meaning you don't even have a clue except your mind twisted the statement into something you want to believe.

And no, how a person votes do not stereotype a person. I prefer Modi because he is better for India, thats all.

 

[jon88]

Firstly, I am an Indian,not chinese

Secondly be patriotic but don't be so blindly patriotic that you start ignoring the reality.


Indians have fundamental rights and so called freedom only on paper and not in reality.This fundamental rights that you enjoy depends on your socio economic status.

If you are rich and well off then not only you enjoy the 7 fundamental rights prescribed in the constitution but also the right to subvert the law of the land and become an authority by yourself.

But if you are poor and downtrodden then you don't even have the right to dignity and the right to live a dignified life.

Excellently put.