China again blocks UN ban against Masood Azhar

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China again blocks UN ban against Masood Azhar

1.Now it's clear modi government failed to take diplomatic action against known terrorist masood azhar.
2.international community failed to take action against terrorism
3.Our fight against terrorism should be on our own
4.Time to throwaway diplomatic isolation bs
4.Time for military solution
 

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Indian govt and citizens in general should bear this is mind that India is not a military power, diplomatic power or even a regional power (in Indian subcontinent)


So we should learn to deal with these setbacks. India has a very soft image in front of the world thus treated accordingly.


A country which could never take hard decisions even after thousands of our people killed by Porkies and their proxies.
 
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it has the approval of 14 countries out of 15 and chinkis will not be able to veto(shield ) terrorist friend after 31 dec

After nine months, the technical hold will expire on December 31, by when Beijing will have to decide whether to approve or essentially the veto the bid, which the UNSC's 14 other members have supported UN has power to overrule it

 

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Chinese stances on NSG and Azhar are constant at every instant. Creating a thread about it every time is a wastage of DFI's precious bandwidth.
Indian govt and citizens in general should bear this is mind that India is not a military power, diplomatic power or even a regional power (in Indian subcontinent)
Too much frustration man.
And that's why judgemental response.
India couldn't ban a terrorist because it isn't in UNSC seat.
Just failing to change international status of a terrorist won't change facts and stats.
Put India on one side and rest of this entire "region" on other side and then, compare.:biggrin2:

All we need to realize that we aren't a member of UNSC so comparatively weaker political power.

Vetoing against Indian interests isn't new thing. It's usual since 60s and 70s (remember obstructions Bangladesh's entry into UN) to these things. US, Russia and PRC always blow every amendment proposal in end.
If Masood Azhar was only backed by Pakistan, he won't even be alive now, but he's backed by China. Clearly, India isn't the biggest fish into the room but for being pi$$ed off!, stats speak louder always.:biggrin2:
 

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Indian govt and citizens in general should bear this is mind that India is not a military power, diplomatic power or even a regional power (in Indian subcontinent)


So we should learn to deal with these setbacks. India has a very soft image in front of the world thus treated accordingly.


A country which could never take hard decisions even after thousands of our people killed by Porkies and their proxies.
I agree India is seen as soft and docile in the world but if India isn't seen as a regional power in south Asia then who is?
 

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one more master stroke by our BA pass modi. please add this to his achievement thread
 

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I agree India is seen as soft and docile in the world but if India isn't seen as a regional power in south Asia then who is?
It is a regional power but is it the predominant regional power? I'd argue that the title goes to China through its proxies.
 

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Chinese stances on NSG and Azhar are constant at every instant. Creating a thread about it every time is a wastage of DFI's precious bandwidth.
Too much frustration man.
And that's why judgemental response.
India couldn't ban a terrorist because it isn't in UNSC seat.
Just failing to change international status of a terrorist won't change facts and stats.
Put India on one side and rest of this entire "region" on other side and then, compare.:biggrin2:

All we need to realize that we aren't a member of UNSC so comparatively weaker political power.

Vetoing against Indian interests isn't new thing. It's usual since 60s and 70s (remember obstructions Bangladesh's entry into UN) to these things. US, Russia and PRC always blow every amendment proposal in end.
If Masood Azhar was only backed by Pakistan, he won't even be alive now, but he's backed by China. Clearly, India isn't the biggest fish into the room but for being pi$$ed off!, stats speak louder always.:biggrin2:
Not to mention that the UN itself is a defunct organization. What is banning Azhar in the UN going to really achieve? Is anybody expecting that Pakistan will hand him over as soon as he is banned?
 

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There is the People's Republic of China (PRC), and there is the Taiwan Republic of China (Taiwan ROC).

India has a problem with PRC that is claims Indian territory. India has a bigger problem with Taiwan ROC as it claims even more of Indian territory. The only difference is as of now, PRC is actually occupying Aksai Chin and Shaksgam. It is in India's interest that PRC is weakened, but we should not fall head over heels in love with Taiwan ROC.

Let them fight, and if Trump is willing to give greater recognition to Taiwan ROC, then India should covertly support it, and also take steps to counter anti-Trump detractors within the USA.
 

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India has a bigger problem with Taiwan ROC as it claims even more of Indian territory.
These claims are dependent on whether ROC gets to control entire china. That is a foregone conclusion as of today.

That also voids all ROC claims on Indian territory . Only way ROC can exist is by completely seceding from PRC even ideologically accepting to be a different country altogether. It's Loosing diplomatically day by day as china is out their buying recognition.
 

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China and russia has made it clear and i support them for taking right step.

1. They want pakistan to revive taliban to counter IS
2. They know India cannot do it.
3. India is now getting cosy with US
4. Indians are fools that rather supporting direct neighbour they are listening to US.
5. For the time being Russia and China and Pakistan have forgptton the differences because bigger threat is coming.
6. We Indian are pussies and every one knows that we will talk peace with IS.
7. ONLY taliban is the outfit which can counter IS.

India should be sane.

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China and russia has made it clear and i support them for taking right step.

1. They want pakistan to revive taliban to counter IS
As if there's any difference between Taliban and ISIS. Ek hi bank ke local branches hain woh.

2. They know India cannot do it.
So they ask ISI(S) to do it. What a plan, ask the wolf to take down himeslf and guard their sheep at the same time.

3. India is now getting cosy with US
India is aligning as per our self-interests, US/Japan/EU for Trade/Technology, Gulf states for oil investments, Russia and Israel for weapon systems/technology.

4. Indians are fools that rather supporting direct neighbour they are listening to US.
If by direct neighbour you mean China, then indeed we are fools for not listening to them and vacate Arunachal, Ladkah, Sikkim and J&K. Are you asking us to support China against ourselves?

5. For the time being Russia and China and Pakistan have forgptton the differences because bigger threat is coming.
The biggest threat is Pakistan and Pakistani nukes. All terror attacks in the world can be traced back there. If Russia were serious about ISIS, they would be co-opting Iran, with whom they already have an informal alliance in Syria.

6. We Indian are pussies and every one knows that we will talk peace with IS.
Oh yes, the West is the one that is arming ad abetting ISIS and running away from the battle fields and WE are the pussies.

7. ONLY taliban is the outfit which can counter IS.
See the reply above. Taliban are mercenaries, given enough money they'll BECOME ISIS Afghan branch. It's the NATO that has been the pussies in Afghanistan and letting Taliban walk all over them ably abetted by Paki mercenaries.

India should be sane.
How? By talking to immediate neighbours like Pakistan?
 

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China again blocks UN ban against Masood Azhar

1.Now it's clear modi government failed to take diplomatic action against known terrorist masood azhar.
2.international community failed to take action against terrorism
3.Our fight against terrorism should be on our own
4.Time to throwaway diplomatic isolation bs
4.Time for military solution
Please explain how Modi 'failed to take diplomatic action against known terrorist Masood Azhar'.

Modi and the foreign office did go all out in the UN as well as several meetings with the Chinese themselves on the issue but China as usual is a stick in the mud and will always support its pet poodle, Pakistan come what may. The same story repeats for membership of the NSG. We need to screw the Chinks now on Tibet, Taiwan and the South China Sea. Also restrict trade with them as we have a negative trade balance of $50 billion with them.

In other words we need to screw them where it hurts.

I also fail to understand why we haven't taken a more strident position against the Chinks on the CPEC as it runs through POK and GB which they themselves consider as disputed territory. We've just made a few subdued noises so far. We need to go for them with all guns blazing. We also need to raise the issue of the Shagsgam Valley in J&K, 5000 sq km of which have been illegally gifted by the Porks to their masters China in 1963.
 
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The problem with the Chinese is that they think they live in a parallel universe where jihad will never affect them. Blowing up a few CRH trains should bring them to their senses.
 
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The problem with the Chinese is that they think they live in a parallel universe where jihad will never affect them. Blowing up a few CRH trains should bring them to their senses.
Chinese live very much in the present, albeit a narrow and highly parochial and tunnel-visioned present. Their aim always has been to ensure that batlles are focussed away from their Han chinese heartlands. They'll fight India to the last Paki, while crushing Uyghurs at the same time. They'll fight Japan and SoKo to the last NoKorean. They are in a hunt for resources and proxies all over the world because they truly believe that this is their millennium and none shall stand in their way. They feel confident enough of taking on the Islamist bogie should it raise its head in their Han Chinese heartland.

You see, Chinese believe that Chinese cannot be Muslims, it's the others like Uyghurs who are Turkic and Hui, who though close are not really Han.

The Chinese arrogance is their biggest asset and their biggest weakness. And their people in charge have an absolute loathing of India. It's almost civilisational.
 

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