Cannot risk a parallel army in North: Basil

[HeinzGud]

Do not worry the tolerance level of DFI is quite high .... I think

Well then Tamils indeed need a separate state but in India not in Sri Lanka.

 

[amoy]

@HeinzGud Apparently the peril not well heeded - a Tamil majority "Norhern province"? An ethnicity based party TNA to win the province, and what a Muslim League allowed to exist? And their own police?

Trust me, SL on the verge of opening a Pandora's box. Look around, for Kashmir or Assam as ref..

Like I said, leave the politically correct cliche behind. It's time for the majority to get assertive.

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[Ray]

I have a answer to this but dunno whether I get banned for saying it.

You are welcome to say what you want, provided you do not let your imagination take off on gossamer wings and pass them off as facts.

At best they will be deleted.

I have been deleted.

But what of it?

 

[Ray]

@HeinzGud Apparently the peril not well heeded - a Tamil majority "Norhern province"? An ethnicity based party TNA to win the province, and what a Muslim League allowed to exist? And their own police?

Trust me, SL on the verge of opening a Pandora's box. Look around, for Kashmir or Assam as ref..

Like I said, leave the politically correct cliche behind. It's time for the majority to get assertive.

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Why are you being a true Chinese Communist apparatchik and talking in riddles and acting coy and smug?

Speak your mind. This is not China that you have to be worried that the Laogai faces you.

What about Kashmir and Assam?

They have democratic govt duly elected.

Kashmir and Assam have their own Chief Minister and Govt.

And the CM is a Muslim in Kashmir, with a Muslim Police. Gogoi is an Assamese.

So, what are you aiming to say?

 

[HeinzGud]

Are you a human being or a deranged person?

I have never sided with the LTTE, but now I understand why they rose against you racially horrid individuals.

Carry on this way and this time you will regret your racial overtones.

OK.. if you are so much taken aback by the dogs let's change the phrase like this "Horses should be in stables not in houses" "Lions should be in the open jungle not in the zoo"

Tamils are a part of SL and so you have to ensure that they are treated equal.

AFAIK Tamils in Sri Lanka are better off than the Tamils in Tamilnadu. Here in Sri Lanka they practicing the every high class white collar job, they do business, they do illegal business, some of them are poor, they all go to schools, they have the same opportunities in the higher educational sectors, they have their own laws for the lands in Jaffna where they cannot sell land to a Sinhalese but they buy land from Sinhalese in every other place in Sri Lanka, They go to every place in Sri Lanka and settle down but still they are unequal to Sinhalese.

I guess that's because they do not have a powerful position in Sri Lankan parliament isn't it?

Further to my note I do not know how you define equality and no country is bound to treat its citizen in every aspect. If Tamils feels they are treated unequal they can go to a place where they feel there equal or if you think we treat them unequal why not ask them to come to your place to be treated equal?

They have been there always and every time. It is not your land alone and you are not even the original inhabitants. In fact, you come from Bengal and Odisha.

Wow... the ethnicity who do not even have a proper ancient city is now the original inhabitants... I think the Veddas may be the offshoot of these great Tamils...

Mahavamsa attests that the ancestors of the Sinhalese came from Sihapura (Sinhapura) located in Lala Rattha (=Lata Rashtra). Prince Sihabahu had left his maternal grand father's kingdom in Vanga and founded a Sihapura in Lata Rashtra. He married Sihasivali and there were born Vijaya and Sumitta and thirty more sons to her. With time, Sihabahu consecrated Vijaya as prince-regent, but due to some misdemeanor of prince Vijaya, the king had to banish him and his 700 followers from Sinhapura. Story says that the king had caused their heads to be shaved (aradh-mundak) before putting them on a ship and driving them away into the sea. The exiles sailed past Bharukachcha and Soparaka and finally landed at Tambapanni (Ceylon) near Puttalam.[5] on the day of Parinibhana (decease) of the Buddha (542 BCE or 486 BCE). The exiles permanently settled on the island, married local wives and established their kingdom which, in succeeding generations, assumed the name as Sinhala, said to have been named after Sinhapura, the ancestral city of the exiles. (Wiki)

While considerable evidence points to western India as the home of the first immigrants, it seems probable that a subsequent wave arrived from the east around Bengal and Orissa"

First of all do not quote wiki.

Second of all Sinhalese do not care where they come from as long as they being the Sinhalese.

Sonia Gandhi was a foreigner and then after many years took Indian citizenship.

And she did not want to be the PM.

Further, we have had representatives of all religions as President and PM.

Our Constitution does not prohibit anyone from holding high office.

So, don't compare a racist people like you Buddhist DL with others!

Solomon West Ridgeway Dias Bandaranaike was a born Sri Lankan but a Christian and that was not good enough for him because SL is a racial horror with religion intolerance at its foundation and psyche!

Shameful and deceitful people like you, who make your nation!

Did our Muslim Presidents have to convert to be the Head of State?

So do not compare India to Sri Lanka. We are who we are. We will never be as "civilized" as your people and leave our things to us and do not poke your nose in to other peoples affairs.

 

[HeinzGud]

What about Kashmir and Assam?

They have democratic govt duly elected.

Kashmir and Assam have their own Chief Minister and Govt.

That's why Kashmir is trouble free..... Ray you are purposefully missing the point here..... power is good only till it is vested on someone who will mend it to suite his desires.....

 

[Ray]

OK.. if you are so much taken aback by the dogs let's change the phrase like this "Horses should be in stables not in houses" "Lions should be in the open jungle not in the zoo"

I am not taken aback.

I am shocked at the insensitivity of someone who wants to call himself a human being.

Even animals are kind.

AFAIK Tamils in Sri Lanka are better off than the Tamils in Tamilnadu. Here in Sri Lanka they practicing the every high class white collar job, they do business, they do illegal business, some of them are poor, they all go to schools, they have the same opportunities in the higher educational sectors, they have their own laws for the lands in Jaffna where they cannot sell land to a Sinhalese but they buy land from Sinhalese in every other place in Sri Lanka, They go to every place in Sri Lanka and settle down but still they are unequal to Sinhalese.

As far as you know is the right phrase and you really know nothing except racialism.

Say what you want, they are second class citizens and you LAWS exemplifies that!

A gilded cage is not the same as a free bird.

why Jaffna alone?

Is the rest of SL a no no zone for them?

They don't have the same opportunity in education or getting jobs.

Have you not read the post of mine above that indicates that the Law requires them to a regime of inequal competition in education and jobs?

I guess that's because they do not have a powerful position in Sri Lankan parliament isn't it?

Really?

So that means that if you are not in the majority, you be damned?

Further to my note I do not know how you define equality and no country is bound to treat its citizen in every aspect. If Tamils feels they are treated unequal they can go to a place where they feel there equal or if you think we treat them unequal why not ask them to come to your place to be treated equal?

When one feels that there could be an inequality, they find a new homeland.

Ask your new found friends the Pakistanis.

They found a new homeland.

So, are you suggesting that the Tamils are right in asking for separation or whatever in SL?

I do't subscribe to that.

Wow... the ethnicity who do not even have a proper ancient city is now the original inhabitants... I think the Veddas may be the offshoot of these great Tamils..

.

Veddas are sure not hybrids who claim to own the land!

First of all do not quote wiki.

They have reference from documents.

So, go to the original references and not be lazy, if you have a doubt.

Second of all Sinhalese do not care where they come from as long as they being the Sinhalese.

I agree some people avoid their parentage and roots since they may not be pleasant.

So do not compare India to Sri Lanka. We are who we are. We will never be as "civilized" as your people and leave our things to us and do not poke your nose in to other peoples affairs.

Comparison comes when some want to in a mealy mouthed manner want to spout pious platitudes.

Be bold and honest to face reality and there will be no comparison.

A racist country will remain a racist country.

No harm being an international pariah if that is pleasant feeling one wants to have!

 

[amoy]

when u @Ray start to shoot at me the poster with apparatchik or whatever label, u lose your acumen at the post itself.

Look at Assam the local Assamese (supposed majority) feel their livelihood threatened by "minority" i.e. inflooding BD immigrants.

Back to SL politcal parties on the geound of ethnicity or religion shall be banned. "Tamil dominated " constituencies shall be redemarcated to disable TNA or the likes. 14A shall be abolished for the sake of sovereign integrity. Just my candid opinions to Lakan friends.

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[Ray]

That's why Kashmir is trouble free..... Ray you are purposefully missing the point here..... power is good only till it is vested on someone who will mend it to suite his desires.....

Kashmir cannot be trouble free. Philippines cannot be trouble free, Myanmar cannot be trouble free, Xinjiang cannot be trouble free.

And your Buddhist extremists are already are at it..

Of all the moral precepts instilled in Buddhist monks the promise not to kill comes first, and the principle of non-violence is arguably more central to Buddhism than any other major religion. So why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims and joining mobs that have left dozens dead?
BBC News - Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?

I leave it to you to guess what is the rationale for this ailment!

 

[Ray]

when u @Ray start to shoot at me the poster with apparatchik or whatever label, u lose your acumen at the post itself.

Look at Assam the local Assamese (supposed majority) feel their livelihood threatened by "minority" i.e. inflooding BD immigrants.

Back to SL politcal parties on the geound of ethnicity or religion shall be banned. "Tamil dominated province" alike shall be redemarcated to disable TNA alike. 14A shall be abolished for the sake of sovereign integrity. Just my candid opinions to Lakan friends.

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True that there has been a Muslim illegal immigration in Assam.

That is the cause because we are a tolerant country, even though I agree that such tolerance should have limits.

In SL, they were there earlier.

Tamils have a very long history in Sri Lankan history and have lived on the island since around the 2nd century BCE

It is only those who came because of the tea plantation that the British brought. They have been repatriated,

 

[Ray]

when u @Ray start to shoot at me the poster with apparatchik or whatever label, u lose your acumen at the post itself.

Forgive me.

However, when you quit logic and facts, you so appear to be a Communist Chinese apparatchik!

Chinese Communists do show this failing in a big way!

 

[amoy]

Forgive me.

However, when you quit logic and facts, you so appear to be a Communist Chinese apparatchik!

Chinese Communists do show this failing in a big way!

your continued attacks at the poster only show u r at your wit's end to address the post!

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[Ray]

your continued attacks at the poster only show u r at your wit's end to address the post!

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Not quite.

Revisit your post

You have failed to say what you really wanted to say and tried to get smart!

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[HeinzGud]

Kashmir cannot be trouble free. Philippines cannot be trouble free, Myanmar cannot be trouble free, Xinjiang cannot be trouble free.

And your Buddhist extremists are already are at it..

Then you should have no problem with the Tamil issue... moreover it is our issue not yours.......

Of all the moral precepts instilled in Buddhist monks the promise not to kill comes first, and the principle of non-violence is arguably more central to Buddhism than any other major religion. So why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims and joining mobs that have left dozens dead?
BBC News - Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?

I leave it to you to guess what is the rationale for this ailment!

Why cannot they use hate speech? If we ban hate speech then it won't be a democratic thing to do. Then this monks will become second class citizens...

 

[HeinzGud]

As far as you know is the right phrase and you really know nothing except racialism.

Say what you want, they are second class citizens and you LAWS exemplifies that!

Ha ha ha....... laws... ha ha ha...... that's a good one....... ha ha ha......

there is no point in arguing with you about laws so leave our laws to Sri Lanka... we are not imposing it on India....

A gilded cage is not the same as a free bird.

What are you saying Tamils are birds? It is inhumane to call someone a bird.
[MOD Edit: Are you yearning for a red card?]

why Jaffna alone?

That is because it ensured the rights of the immigrants who came from India to Jaffna so that the immigrants have the authority over the land. This is enacted by the Dutch.

They don't have the same opportunity in education or getting jobs.

Where are the facts?

Have you not read the post of mine above that indicates that the Law requires them to a regime of inequal competition in education and jobs?

In equal how?

Really?

So that means that if you are not in the majority, you be damned?

Mostly yeah.

When one feels that there could be an inequality, they find a new homeland.

No they can rise up to it and die or they can win.

So, are you suggesting that the Tamils are right in asking for separation or whatever in SL?

Yeah and we have the right to deny it.

Veddas are sure not hybrids who claim to own the land!

The issue is we own the land now.. so your argument is not valid.

I agree some people avoid their parentage and roots since they may not be pleasant.

We Sinhalese do not.

 

[HeinzGud]

Tamils have a very long history in Sri Lankan history and have lived on the island since around the 2nd century BCE

It is only those who came because of the tea plantation that the British brought. They have been repatriated,

Total BS. Ray you are really a history illiterate and propaganda poster.

 

[Ray]

Total BS. Ray you are really a history illiterate and propaganda poster.

Too bad

So all these scholar are wrong and you are right?

Iravatham Mahadevan, Aryan or Dravidian or Neither? – A Study of Recent Attempts to Decipher the Indus Script (1995–2000), ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF VEDIC STUDIES (EJVS), Vol. 8 (2002) issue 1 (8 March)ISSN 1084-7561

Iravatham Mahadevan, Aryan or Dravidian or Neither? – A Study of Recent Attempts to Decipher the Indus Script (1995–2000), ELECTRONIC JOURNAL OF VEDIC STUDIES (EJVS), Vol. 8 (2002) issue 1 (8 March)ISSN 1084-7561

Wenzlhuemer 2008, p. 19-20.. According to Wenzlhuemer it is not certain when the first Tamil settlers arrived at Sri Lanka. Also according to Wenzlhuemer, the first Tamils settled at Sri Lanka a few centuries after the first Aryan settlers, who arrived at Sri Lanka in the 5th century BCE.

And your academic treatise please.

 

[Ray]

Then you should have no problem with the Tamil issue... moreover it is our issue not yours.......

It is not only your issue, It is issue of Humanity.

Only barbarians would feel otherwise as to what was done to them during the end of the conflict.

No wonder you are with the Chinese.

Why cannot they use hate speech? If we ban hate speech then it won't be a democratic thing to do. Then this monks will become second class citizens...

Ban religious hatred is a crime?

We put chaps in jail for that!

 

[HeinzGud]

Wenzlhuemer 2008, p. 19-20.. According to Wenzlhuemer it is not certain when the first Tamil settlers arrived at Sri Lanka. Also according to Wenzlhuemer, the first Tamils settled at Sri Lanka a few centuries after the first Aryan settlers, who arrived at Sri Lanka in the 5th century BCE.

And your academic treatise please.

Before presenting my treatise, let's discuss your treatise. In the above quote Wenzlhuemer say "first Tamils settled at Sri Lanka a few centuries after the first Aryan settlers, who arrived at Sri Lanka in the 5th century BCE." But where are the evidence to prove this. Is there any? or is this a hypothesis?

 

[HeinzGud]

It is not only your issue, It is issue of Humanity.

Only barbarians would feel otherwise as to what was done to them during the end of the conflict.

Funny you always pick the end of the conflict scenario. When the war was ongoing it was OK. But the issue now is how we end it. If you want to talk about humanity first you must look into the humanity of IPKF.

Isn't that's when all your humanity goes down the drain Mr. Ray?

Ban religious hatred is a crime?

We put chaps in jail for that!

No point of arguing this lets stick to the history Mr. Ray.