Brexit, EU referendum

[LETHALFORCE]

I have no idea how it will benefit, anybody can site simple points what UK will get by existing EU ?

They will get to choose their own policy regarding immigration and they will be able to stop supporting the welfare states that
Make up half of the EU and they will be able to seal their borders no more open immigration. UK is one of the prrferred investment destination now this may make them more preferred


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[AnantS]

wont be able to visit Scotland on Schengen visa?

never been to that part except while on transit.

 

[AnantS]

They will get to choose their own policy regarding immigration and they will be able to stop supporting the welfare states that
Make up half of the EU and they will be able to seal their borders no more open immigration. UK is one of the prrferred investment destination now this may make them more preferred


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You have more idiot AAP like parties in UK. Immigration wont stop else Paki wont bark at its orders. Watch the fun, as Scotland and Ireland seek their own independent destinies again.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

You have more idiot AAP like parties in UK. Immigration wont stop else Paki wont bark at its orders. Watch the fun, as Scotland and Ireland seek their own independent destinies again.

Scotland wants independence
Spain wants to control Gibraltar straits
EU wants UK to get out quick
Waiting for Falkland island news
Waiting for others nations (France?) to leave
Waiting for EURO as a currency to crumble
Watching if any of this will impact NATO?
Pakis are an insignificant cockroach in any of this

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[AnantS]

Well you under-estimate Britain's addiction to Pakis. They still believe in mollycoddling latter for playing "Great Game".

 

[hit&run]

Well you under-estimate Britain's addiction to Pakis. They still believe in mollycoddling latter for playing "Great Game".

Great Games are over as far as UK is concern.

As far as Pakistanis are concern then let them play all the great games they want to play on TV channels. At the end of the day you spend money to play the game but here they do not even have money to buy the tickets and watch one.

UK's exist will end UK's pro-activism as advisory, think tank and military role it played in all such "Great Games". It will benefit India as there will less irritants when they wouldn't poke their nose in our affairs as more bilateral-ism will kick in and they will be more dependable on good relationships with country like India. UK won't be carrying the burden of EU's collective conscience who at times itches to meddle in our affairs. The example is Italy Marine Issue.

 

[AnantS]

Great Games are over as far as UK is concern.

UK's exist will end UK's pro-activism as advisory, think tank and military role it played in all such "Great Games". It will benefit India as there will less irritants when they wouldn't poke their nose in our affairs as more bilateral-ism will kick in and they will be more dependable on good relationships with country like India. UK won't be carrying the burden of EU's collective conscience who at times itches to meddle in our affairs. The example is Italy Marine Issue.

What you are talking about Britain's reality. But you underestimate depth of their delusions about their grandeur, power and their ability to punch above their weight. Its for a reason they have been honored with title "White Paki".

 

[hit&run]

What you are talking about Britain's reality. But you underestimate depth of their delusions about their grandeur, power and their ability to punch above their weight. Its for a reason they have been honored with title "White Paki".

I understood what you were trying to say at the very first instance :biggrin2:

Just used the opportunity to add more.

Regards.

 

[rockey 71]

1. Firstly the Americans wanted their British colony to vote thus.
2. Secondly see the internal divide within the UK.


Will Referendum Result Lead To Break-Up Of UK?
The future of the UK is unclear as Scotland and Northern Ireland, who want to stay in the EU, ponder independence referendums.

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[rockey 71]

Britain has voted to leave the European Union after 43 years in a referendum that threatens to break up the UK.

SCOTLAND

:: Scotland voted in favour of the UK staying in the European Union by 62% to 38% with all 32 council areas backing Remain.

:: First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the EU vote "makes clear the people of Scotland see their future as part of the European Union".

"Scotland has contributed significantly to the Remain vote across the UK," she said.

Video: Brexit Night: The Highlights
"That reflects the positive campaign the SNP fought, which highlighted the gains and benefits of our EU membership, and people across Scotland have responded to that positive message.

"We await the final UK-wide result, but Scotland has spoken - and spoken decisively."

::LIVE: Reaction As UK Delivers Historic Out Vote

:: The EU referendum result means Ms Sturgeon will now be under pressure to call a second independence referendum.

:: The SNP manifesto for May's Scottish Parliament elections said there should be another ballot if there is a "significant and material" change in circumstances from the 2014 vote, such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against its will.

:: :: Former first minister Alex Salmond, a Remain campaigner who has repeatedly warned that a vote for Brexit will lead to the break-up of the UK, told Sky News Scotland "wouldn't have any time outside the EU".

He said Scotland would have to have the referendum within the next two years - the time it will take for the UK government to negotiate its exit from the EU.

NORTHERN IRELAND

:: Northern Ireland is also on course to vote to remain in the EU.

:: Sinn Fein has responded by saying that the result intensified the case for a united Ireland.

:: It now believes there is a "democratic imperative" for a referendum on removing the Irish border, according to Sky sources.

:: Sterling's 'Most Volatile Day' In Modern History

Video: Farage Declares 'Independence Day'
WALES

:: Welsh voters backed leaving the EU by some 52.5% compared to 47.5% who supported Remain.

:: Out of Wales' 22 councils, 17 backed Brexit while only five voted to Remain.

::UK Votes To Leave EU In Historic Referendum

:: Andrew RT Davies, leader of the Welsh Conservatives and Leave campaigner, hailed the result as a "historic moment for Wales".

:: Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood, who wanted the UK to stay in the EU, said she was not surprised that so many parts of Wales had voted to leave the EU - despite the country benefiting from billions of EU funding over the years.

"It looks as if the areas where there are greater levels of deprivation and received the most of European Union funding are the areas most likely to have the greatest numbers of those wanting to leave.

"The EU referendum has been an opportunity to land a blow on the political establishment."

ENGLAND

:: Voters in England also backed leaving the EU by 53.4% to 46.6% - a margin of 1,921,410.

:: However, the capital defied national trends and voted overwhelmingly in favour of remaining in the EU by 59.9% to 40.1%.



http://news.sky.com/story/1716727/will-referendum-result-lead-to-break-up-of-uk

 

[asianobserve]

They will get to choose their own policy regarding immigration and they will be able to stop supporting the welfare states that
Make up half of the EU and they will be able to seal their borders no more open immigration. UK is one of the prrferred investment destination now this may make them more preferred


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There are pros and cons for Brexit. And one pro is that with the falling Sterling, and if it stays at lower levels, British products and services would be more competitive.

 

[Tactical Frog]

They will get to choose their own policy regarding immigration and they will be able to stop supporting the welfare states that
Make up half of the EU and they will be able to seal their borders no more open immigration. UK is one of the prrferred investment destination now this may make them more preferred


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EU had no say whatsoever on UK immigration policy . Welfare state ? They have one too . Preferred investment destination ? For how long ? Being an EU member was a key part of their attractiveness !

Uh ... on second thought , yes, it changes a lot in terms of immigration . The Poles and Frenchmen ( in the hundred of thousands ) are no longer welcome.

 

[Syd]

EU had no say whatsoever on UK immigration policy . Welfare state ? They have one too . Preferred investment destination ? For how long ? Being an EU member was a key part of their attractiveness !

Uh ... on second thought , yes, it changes a lot in terms of immigration . The Poles and Frenchmen ( in the hundred of thousands ) are no longer welcome.

You have forgotten about "The free Movement of labour" which means that every unemployed Romanian, Bulgarian etc can come into the UK and claim benefits and social housing. Yes these countries have a welfare state too but ours pays better. They also overload the health service which, unlike the French and German ones, is free to citizens (and EU nationals).

You have forgotten that the Germans and French (who seem to think they run the EU) are offering the Turks visa free access to the EU in return for regulating the number of Syrian refugees they send to Europe. We already have loads of Turks in the UK and they are just as obnoxious as others of their faith.

There are a million Poles in the UK and some 300 - 500 thousand French. The French are "invisible" as they work for multinational companies in the City of London or run their own businesses and have a similar culture to the Brits. The Poles are welcomed as good workers.

What annoys common Brits is the habit of the European Court of overruling the deportation of foreign criminals saying that it infringed their human rights etc. ignoring the rights of the law abiding locals.

The pro EU Brits are an elite (including politicians from both large parties) who have been insulated from the downsides of the EU and slipped up by allowing the referendum.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

EU had no say whatsoever on UK immigration policy . Welfare state ? They have one too . Preferred investment destination ? For how long ? Being an EU member was a key part of their attractiveness !

Uh ... on second thought , yes, it changes a lot in terms of immigration . The Poles and Frenchmen ( in the hundred of thousands ) are no longer welcome.

Tactical frog do you think France will stay in EU?


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[ezsasa]

While the world gets used to British exit , British prime minister changes in three months time . while the world is getting used to new British prime minister American president changes and while world gets used to new American president the Scottish referendum will be around the corner.

These are times that small/medium players solidify them selves as big boys in international arena, just like Chinese solidified themselves when the world was busy with Afghanistan and Iraq.

Basically a change of guard can be expected.

 

[hit&run]

While the world gets used to British exit , British prime minister changes in three months time . while the world is getting used to new British prime minister American president changes and while world gets used to new American president the Scottish referendum will be around the corner.

These are times that small/medium players solidify them selves as big boys in international arena, just like Chinese solidified themselves when the world was busy with Afghanistan and Iraq.

Basically a change of guard can be expected.

Like you identified, it will be real test for India to use this change of guard or guards for that matter, to its advantage.

FTA with UK should be worked out or at least weighed upon fast.

Geo-Politics hates vacuum, I mean if there will be any. In my understanding one of the main drive of Brexit was focusing back on domestic issues and cut the spending on issues that are not related to UK. There will be radical change in UK policies as far as interfering in global issues being a major partner of US lead conflict resolution alliance.

We must see where we can put our step in and play a role being an influential economy than being a fence sitter or playing cameo.

I think Brexit might have prompted USA policy makers to cosy up with India or use Brexit as a caveat. Now since Brexit is a reality USA may expedite it further, as they need more partners.

 

[prohumanity]

Brexit will not have much effect on Indian economy as Britain ranks 14 th trading partner of India.
US ,China and Germany are the top 3 trading partners of Britain.
I wonder what will happen to all rich Paki leaders and businessmen whose wealth and houses are located in London !!
Pakistani politics and foreign policy is designed in Britain ...will they still keep meddling in Indian subcontinent ?

 

[LordOfTheUnderworlds]

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[Tactical Frog]

Scotland wants independence
Spain wants to control Gibraltar straits
EU wants UK to get out quick
Waiting for Falkland island news
Waiting for others nations (France?) to leave
Waiting for EURO as a currency to crumble
Watching if any of this will impact NATO?
Pakis are an insignificant cockroach in any of this

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Tactical frog do you think France will stay in EU?


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France is one of the six founders of the European Coal and Steal Community established in 1951, a direct predecessor of the 1957 European Economic Union including the same six countries. The ECSC was the brainchild of Robert Schumann , then French Minister of Foreign Affairs. And since then every government has supported European integration . I don't see any change coming . Needless to say, I support European integration too ! But not Eurofighter something went wrong with that project.

There is of course a strong anti european wing in France too but they are not having any support from big money, corporations, elite schools ... you won' t find the likes of a Boris Johnson and a Rupert Murdoch here.

 

[Tactical Frog]

You have forgotten about "The free Movement of labour" which means that every unemployed Romanian, Bulgarian etc can come into the UK and claim benefits and social housing. Yes these countries have a welfare state too but ours pays better. They also overload the health service which, unlike the French and German ones, is free to citizens (and EU nationals).

You have forgotten that the Germans and French (who seem to think they run the EU) are offering the Turks visa free access to the EU in return for regulating the number of Syrian refugees they send to Europe. We already have loads of Turks in the UK and they are just as obnoxious as others of their faith.

There are a million Poles in the UK and some 300 - 500 thousand French. The French are "invisible" as they work for multinational companies in the City of London or run their own businesses and have a similar culture to the Brits. The Poles are welcomed as good workers.

What annoys common Brits is the habit of the European Court of overruling the deportation of foreign criminals saying that it infringed their human rights etc. ignoring the rights of the law abiding locals.

The pro EU Brits are an elite (including politicians from both large parties) who have been insulated from the downsides of the EU and slipped up by allowing the referendum.

Hmm. UK was never part of Schengen Pact .. so even if Turks get free visas for Germany, that is not giving them access to UK or I am missing something. That is typical of the misunderstandings that led to this disaster .