Brazil plans to go offline from US-centric internet

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This is a bit late news. Wondering if anybody posted yet.


Brazil plans to divorce itself from the US-centric internet over Washington's widespread online spying, a move that many experts fear will be a potentially dangerous first step toward politically fracturing a global network built with minimal interference by governments.

President Dilma Rousseff has ordered a series of measures aimed at greater Brazilian online independence and security following revelations that the US National Security Agency intercepted her communications, hacked into the state-owned Petrobras oil company's network and spied on Brazilians who entrusted their personal data to US tech companies such as Facebook and Google.

"The global backlash is only beginning and will get far more severe in coming months," said Sascha Meinrath, director of the Open Technology Institute at the Washington-based New America Foundation think-tank. "This notion of national privacy sovereignty is going to be an increasingly salient issue around the globe."

While Brazil isn't proposing to bar its citizens from US-based Web services, it wants their data to be stored locally as the nation assumes greater control over Brazilians' internet use to protect them from NSA snooping.

Ms. Rousseff says she intends to push for new international rules on privacy and security in hardware and software during the UN General Assembly meeting later this month.

Most of Brazil's global internet traffic passes through the United States, so Ms. Rousseff's government plans to lay underwater fibber optic cable directly to Europe and also link to all South American nations to create what it hopes will be a network free of US eavesdropping.

Ms. Rousseff is urging Brazil's Congress to compel Facebook, Google and other US companies to store all data generated by Brazilians on servers physically located inside Brazil in order to shield it from the NSA.

If that happens, and other nations follow suit, Silicon Valley's bottom line could be hit by lost business and higher operating costs.

Brazil also plans to build more internet exchange points, places where vast amounts of data are relayed, in order to route Brazilians' traffic away from potential interception.

International spies, not just from the United States, also will adjust, experts said. Laying cable to Europe won't make Brazil safer, they say. The NSA has reportedly tapped into undersea telecoms cables for decades.

Mr. Meinrath and others argue that what's needed instead are strong international laws that hold nations accountable for guaranteeing online privacy.

"There's nothing viable that Brazil can really do to protect its citizenry without changing what the US is doing," he said.

@Brazil plans to go offline from US-centric internet - The Hindu
 

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south america seems to be moving away from usa
For Obama, Brazil Decision Compounds Rough Stretch - ABC News

For President Barack Obama, an embarrassing diplomatic rebuke by Brazil has compounded an already troublesome stretch for the White House both at home and abroad.

Brazilian President Dilma Rousseff announced Tuesday that she was putting off a state visit to the U.S. next month to protest an American spy program that has aggressively targeted her nation's government and private citizens alike.

Rousseff's decision deepened the global fallout for Obama from revelations about National Security Agency surveillance programs, which have also angered many Americans. The announcement also came amid criticism of Obama's public shifting over the threat of U.S. military action against Syria.

Some foreign policy analysts say such issues raise questions about Obama's standing around the world.
 

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spying on fellow nations is nothing new nor something serious,but spying on embassies never even heard of..

america should not have done this.this is just a sign of withering US impression in international affairs.
 

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spying on fellow nations is nothing new nor something serious,but spying on embassies never even heard of..

america should not have done this.this is just a sign of withering US impression in international affairs.
I think spying on embassies is same as spying on fellow nations or enemy nations. Spying has been a part and participle of age old empires. Question is will brazil be able to restrict NSA access by this new formula?
 

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spying on fellow nations is nothing new nor something serious,but spying on embassies never even heard of..

america should not have done this.this is just a sign of withering US impression in international affairs.

Never heard about spying on embassies? Its routine to do so. Govt wants to know what the Embassy of foreign countries are up to. Spies under diplomatic cover always present. You wanna know if there are moles in your country developed by them. You wanna know what info the embassy is passing about the political,economic issues in the country.
 

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Never heard about spying on embassies? Its routine to do so. Govt wants to know what the Embassy of foreign countries are up to. Spies under diplomatic cover always present. You wanna know if there are moles in your country developed by them. You wanna know what info the embassy is passing about the political,economic issues in the country.
thats the major reason for strained relations.even usa spied on our embassies to know about mmrca project,but UPA denied it:hail:
lets see how far this govt will bend to USA
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I think spying on embassies is same as spying on fellow nations or enemy nations. Spying has been a part and participle of age old empires. Question is will brazil be able to restrict NSA access by this new formula?
any action on a fellow embassy on its soil is an act of war.

whether brazil can restrict usa or it,it opened a new angle internationally for secure internet usage without supervision of governments
 

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thats the major reason for strained relations.even usa spied on our embassies to know about mmrca project,but UPA denied it:hail:
lets see how far this govt will bend to USA
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I India has not tried to or tapped into US embassy or for that matter Paki or Chini embassies in India,then we are fools.
 

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I've said this before and i am repeating it again "americans can never ever be trusted"
americans are bunch of backstabbing b8tches. :gangnam:
 

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If India has not tried to or tapped into US embassy or for that matter Paki or Chini embassies in India,then we are fools.
Well, not fools, perhaps, but maybe a little slow.
 

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I India has not tried to or tapped into US embassy or for that matter Paki or Chini embassies in India,then we are fools.
What is truly foolish is to give foreign entities - even private corporations - access to your nation's core internet infrastructure, or the ability to gather data on your citizens. India should follow China's lead and boot out Cisco from its telecom core, and make Google and Facebook choose between basing their datacenters in Delhi - monitored by R&AW to make sure the data is not surreptitiously backed up overseas - and losing access to the Indian market.
@W.G.Ewald don't you agree?
 
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What is truly foolish is to give foreign entities - even private corporations - access to your nation's core internet infrastructure, or the ability to gather data on your citizens. India should follow China's lead and boot out Cisco from its telecom core, and make Google and Facebook choose between basing their datacenters in Delhi - monitored by R&AW to make sure the data is not surreptitiously backed up overseas - and losing access to the Indian market.
@W.G.Ewald don't you agree?
Agreed. :thumb:
 
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What is truly foolish is to give foreign entities - even private corporations - access to your nation's core internet infrastructure, or the ability to gather data on your citizens. India should follow China's lead and boot out Cisco from its telecom core, and make Google and Facebook choose between basing their datacenters in Delhi - monitored by R&AW to make sure the data is not surreptitiously backed up overseas - and losing access to the Indian market.
@W.G.Ewald don't you agree?
No. It seems what you propose is a choice for Google and FB between NSA and RAW?
 
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No. It seems what you propose is a choice for Google and FB between NSA and RAW?
Only for Indian citizens and the Indian telecom network. Why should the NSA have a right to access them?
 

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Only for Indian citizens and the Indian telecom network. Why should the NSA have a right to access them?
NSA "rights" are irrelevant; it's a 500 lb gorilla.
 

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any action on a fellow embassy on its soil is an act of war.

whether brazil can restrict usa or it,it opened a new angle internationally for secure internet usage without supervision of governments
There is a hell of a difference between 'any action' and spying. Ever heard of eves dropping??

If what you said in the bold part had been true, there would have been war with every country, practically.
 

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