Bramhos will never have a range more than 300 kms

[Rahul92]

The BrahMos has been developed as a joint venture between the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) of India and the Federal State Unitary Enterprise NPO Mashinostroyenia (NPOM) of Russia under BrahMos Aerospace. The missile is named after two rivers, the Brahmaputra and the Moskva AS RUSSIA is a The range of Brahmos has been regulated to 290 Kms as Russia is a signatory of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) which does not allow it to help other countries to develop missiles with ranges above 300 kilometres



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[sayareakd]

yeah, international treaty obligation, but it is too heavy and too fast.

 

[Tolaha]

Now if we know how its done, then we should be able to do, say a Narmada with a 3000 kms range! But I guess the motor is still sourced from Russia.

 

[Mr.Ryu]

Ya Bramhos can never be but lets call it Brahmaputra and make it 1500+ range that will be great

 

[KS]

The true range will be known only in times of war...

 

[sayareakd]

we have found was and means to get over international treaties, ATV and chakra lease is good example.

 

[sayareakd]

we have found way and means to get over international treaties, ATV and chakra lease is good example.

 

[sayareakd]

we have found way and means to get over international treaties, ATV and chakra lease is good example.

 

[Thai]

The true range will be known only in times of war (Karthic Sri)

This's the right idea !

 

[Kunal Biswas]

PJ-10 is a joint venture but not on propulsion ?

 

[noob101]

according to the article "Russia can't help develop missiles with more than 300 km range" this dose not mean that DRDO can't extend the range of the missile... I would imagine 4 ton missile would be easy to extend its range

 

[Rahul92]

according to the article "Russia can't help develop missiles with more than 300 km range" this dose not mean that DRDO can't extend the range of the missile... I would imagine 4 ton missile would be easy to extend its range

but Bramhos is recognized a joint venture of indo-russia so we cannot develop a missile on Bramhos platform

 

[noob101]

but Bramhos is recognized a joint venture of indo-russia so we cannot develop a missile on Bramhos platform

Other than Pakistan who really will care, Unkil wouldn't really mind as we are a good counter balance to China.... plus it is unlikely that India will be selling upgraded versions to any other country....

 

[sayareakd]

@rahul, have you paid attention to shaurya missile? If yes then you will know which part is used.

 

[Singh]

Brahmos has played a crucial role in the development of Shaurya.

Saya saar please elucidate and educate us all in this regard.

 

[p2prada]

Brahmos's range is not greater than what is being mentioned in open source. The size and weight does not allow for greater range anyway. MTCR does not allow ranges of greater than 300Km, nor can it be modified for extended range in house.

The only way to extend the range is by making a whole new missile. According to one such rumour, a new supersonic long range LACM will be made. But of course these are only rumours. A 1000-1500Km range Ramjet or Scramjet will be too big and too heavy for today's technology.

Shaurya has nothing to do with Brahmos. Shaurya is a quasi ballistic missile which does not follow a ballistic trajectory. Other than that it has multiple stages and uses solid rocket motors and is meant to replace Agni I while achieving greater flexibility against enemy ABM systems. Bhramos is a different beast altogether meant for entirely different purposes.

Brahmos and Shaurya have nothing to do with each other since they were both developed by different teams.

 

[Payeng]

Shaurya Clod launch as we have seen are from the lesson learnt from BrahMos VLS, the reason for not letting BrahMos <300 Km is due to the probability of international community yelling at any such development, to note BrahMos use a sub 500 kg warhead about 300 kg which is less then the prescribed 500 kg by MTCR, note that even if we consider a Land Brahmos cannot break the 300 limit, the Air launch version would be capable to do it, why not? because it is the international community which yells on MTCR violation to both signatories and non signatories equally . And why not a 500kg payload is due to the reason that MTCR watch dogs do not question the credibility of the product as controversial , otherwise a 500kg payload capable 300km range BrahMos wont be a herculean job for the Russian to offer.

Even if a BrahMos achieve a 310+ km range it can be justified that it is carrying a 280/300 kg payload. To answer the MTCR watchdogs.
Problem is not that the system cannot achieve 300 + range problem is the watchdogs for which the limit have to be maintained so that they dont make a trouble while marketing it.

 

[satish007]

Bramhos 299 kms, still a big killer

 

[sayareakd]

in war who will go and check if Brahmos has been fired from ship or from SU 30 MKI, as long as it achieve its target. Plus GOI wont allow its services to say who has fired the brahmos keeping in eye on the MTCR.

 

[Tshering22]

Because of MTCR it is all the more important to start considering putting super and hypersonic tech applications to another breed of missiles. For now, Shaurya is reasonably apt. But if we need a proper cruise missile that can cross the 1,000+Km range to strike PLA bases in Tibet during conflict with supersonic speeds, we will need to start separate BrahMos tech applications into new ventures.