Bolivia declares Israel a terrorist state

[sob]

@Neo why would US give military aid to Hamas who is a terrorist organisation who routinely threatens US assets in the region and calling it anti- US would be a very mild term.

BTW why did a fellow Arab country Jordan throw the Palestinians out of their country?

 

[sydsnyper]

HA HA HA HA HA, I know where you got these false figures from.... 0 aid to palestine from the US... they must be kidding and you just lapped it up!!!

U.S. Military Aid and the Israel/Palestine Conflict

The U.S. provides Israel $8.5 million* in military aid each day,
while it gives the Palestinians $0** in military aid.
"‹
"Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives about $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain."

- John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"
*Source: The Congressional Research Service's report "U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel," written by Jeremy M. Sharp, Specialist in Middle Eastern Affairs, dated April 11, 2014.

According to this report, the Obama Administration gave $3.1 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) for Israel for the Fiscal Year 2014. In addition, the U.S contributed $504 million to the joint U.S.-Israel Missile Defense Program during FY 2014. If we include that number, American taxpayers give Israel $9.9 million per day.

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Over the last 20 years, the U.S. has been slowly phasing out economic aid to Israel and gradually replacing it with increased military aid. In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year, $30 billion military aid package FY 2009 to FY 2018. In 2012, the U.S. began giving Israel $3.1 billion a year (or an average of $8.5 million a day) and promised to provide that amount every year through FY 2018.

Israel is by far the largest recipient of U.S. foreign military aid (see how other nations compare). According to the CRS report, the President's request for Israel for FY 2015 will encompass approximately 55% of total U.S. foreign military financing worldwide. According to the CRS report, "[a]nnual FMF grants to Israel represent 23% to 25% of the overall Israeli defense budget."

Contrary to ordinary U.S. policy, Israel has been and continues to be allowed to use approximately 25% of this military aid to purchase equipment from Israeli manufacturers. According to CRS, "no other recipient of U.S. military assistance has been granted this benefit." Thanks in part to this indirect U.S. subsidy, Israel's arms industry has become one of the strongest in the world. "Between 2001 and 2008, it was the 7th largest arms supplier to the world with sales worth a total of 9.9 billion."

The United States also contributes funds for a joint U.S.-Israeli Missile Defense Program designed to thwart short-range missiles and rockets fired by non-state actors (such as Hamas and Hezbollah) as well as mid- and longer-range ballistic missiles (this refers to Iran and/or Syria's asenals). Arrow II, Arrow III, David's Sling, and Iron Dome refer to different projects under the umbrella of this Missile Defense program. In 2014, the U.S. spent $504 million on this and plans to spend $272.7 million in 2015.

By all accounts the United States has given more money to Israel than to any other country. The Congressional Research Service's conservative estimate of total cumulative US aid to Israel (not adjusted for inflation) from 1949 through 2014 is $121 billion.

An October 2013 Washington Report article "A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: $130 Billion," by Shirl McArthur, puts the cumulative total even higher.

According to McArthur, "[T]he indirect or consequential costs to the American taxpayer as a result of Washington's blind support for Israel exceed by many times the amount of direct U.S. aid to Israel. Some of these 'indirect or consequential' costs would include the costs to U.S. manufacturers of the Arab boycott, the costs to U.S. companies and consumers of the Arab oil embargo and consequent soaring oil prices as a result of U.S. support for Israel in the 1973 war, and the costs of U.S. unilateral economic sanctions on Iran, Iraq, Libya and Syria. (For a discussion of these larger costs, see 'The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion,' by the late Thomas R. Stauffer, June 2003 Washington Report, p. 20.)"


**Source: The Congressional Research Service's Report "U.S. Foreign Aid to the Palestinians", written by Jim Zanotti, Analyst in Middle Eastern Affairs, dated September 30, 2013.

According to the report, the U.S. government has never provided Palestinians with military aid, although it has given Palestinians aid for policing their own people as well as for humanitarian and development needs. Such funds are only authorized once Congress has received proof that they will be used for "non-lethal assistance." Congress requested $440 million in aid for FY 2014, and $70 million of this was from the International Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement (INCLE) account.

The U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) has provided the Palestinian people with some indirect economic assistance through funds distributed to U.S.-based NGOs operating in the West Bank and Gaza. According to the CRS report, "Funds are allocated in this program for projects in sectors such as humanitarian assistance, economic development, democratic reform, improving water access and other infrastructure, health care, education, and vocational training." The program is subject to a vetting process and to yearly audits...

The United States also provides funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), "which provides food, shelter, medical care, and education for many of the original refugees from the 1947-1949 Arab-Israeli war and their families—now comprising approximately 4.8 million Palestinians in Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, the West Bank, and Gaza." The amount allocated by the U.S. government for FY 2013 was $275.7 million. (Learn more about Palestinian refugees.)

US Aid to Israel and the Palestinians

 

[Neo]

@Neo why would US give military aid to Hamas who is a terrorist organisation who routinely threatens US assets in the region and calling it anti- US would be a very mild term.

BTW why did a fellow Arab country Jordan throw the Palestinians out of their country?

Gaza needs humanitarian aid, not Hamas.
Not every Palestinian is member of Hamas.

 

[Neo]

HA HA HA HA HA, I know where you got these false figures from.... 0 aid to palestine from the US... they must be kidding and you just lapped it up!!!

Are you an idiot or just pretending to be one?
Google any source you like to confirm that Israel is the largst single recipient of USAid.

 

[Neo]

US has always supported Israel.

Nothing new.

And US has a history of using veto against all UN resolutions condemning Israel.
So its political, financial and military support.
Without it, Israel would seize to exisit which is my point.

 

[sydsnyper]

Dumbo... your fantastic report said that there was zero aid to palestine from US and an unbelievable number to Israel... which is a blatant lie on both counts.

As for being the largest receipient of aid, Afghanistan is the largest receipient of US aid... here is the info, straight from the horse's mouth : Foreign Assistance Fast Facts

Your homeland is also among the list

Now for your US aid logic.... lets assume Israel was the largest recipient of the US, it still does not match up to the aid palestine gets from the EU, arab league or the millions of islamic charities worldwide....

Are you an idiot or just pretending to be one?
Google any source you like to confirm that Israel is the largst single recipient of USAid.

 

[sob]

US is the largest donor to UNRWA U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), meant to assist Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon in addition to Gaza and the West Bank. In FY2014, the U.S. provided $250.9 million of UNRWA's $732 million budget,

And US has a history of using veto against all UN resolutions condemning Israel.
So its political, financial and military support.
Without it, Israel would seize to exisit which is my point.

So @Neo you acknowledge that without US support ,Israel's neighbours would finish it off, militarily.

 

[Neo]

Dumbo... your fantastic report said that there was zero aid to palestine from US and an unbelievable number to Israel... which is a blatant lie on both counts.

As for being the largest receipient of aid, Afghanistan is the largest receipient of US aid... here is the info, straight from the horse's mouth : Foreign Assistance Fast Facts

Your homeland is also among the list

Now for your US aid logic.... lets assume Israel was the largest recipient of the US, it still does not match up to the aid palestine gets from the EU, arab league or the millions of islamic charities worldwide....

I will not argue with an idiot.


Jewish source:

Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library

 

[Neo]

US is the largest donor to UNRWA U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), meant to assist Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon in addition to Gaza and the West Bank. In FY2014, the U.S. provided $250.9 million of UNRWA's $732 million budget,



So @Neo you acknowledge that without US support ,Israel's neighbours would finish it off, militarily.

Without US' military and financial support Israel would not
Dare to attack poor palestinians. I wish Turkey had bombed Israel when her flotilla was attacked in international waters and 13 turks were massacred. Again US saved Israel's sorry arse by using all her political weight against Turkey.

 

[sydsnyper]

So you will finally stop arguing with yourself.... nice move

I will not argue with an idiot.

I hope your illiterate highness understands that I quoted a similar figure in one of my previous replies here :-

Between 1949 to 2010 US gave israel 121 Billion dollars, which is approximately 2 Billion dollars each year. Also this aid comes with riders such as, defensive technology or education etc, which means isreal has to report back a receipt of what it did with the money.

Moreover, at one point you said US was sending 8 billion dollars a day to Israel and none to palestine before I busted your lie and now you supposedly have a new aid claim, which I already stated..... you're a fast learner my friend... someday you will make a successful paki politician...

Jewish source:

Total U.S. Foreign Aid to Israel (1949-Present) | Jewish Virtual Library

 

[swastic_1170]

Without US' military and financial support Israel would not
Dare to attack poor palestinians. I wish Turkey had bombed Israel when her flotilla was attacked in international waters and 13 turks were massacred. Again US saved Israel's sorry arse by using all her political weight against Turkey.

First of all the all the countries you are talking about (who would have attacked Israel) have their own risk-assessment team and their domain knowledge is much stronger than what you have.. They very well know even without US-aid if they dare to cross the line with Israel what would happen to them.. we are talking about a country which is decade ahead in technology than these neighbors..

And lets talk about these so called poor "Hamas".. they are the ones who are launching the mortars and rockets from the school side and market places. They know the retaliation would come back to the same point. Tell me why from the schools mortars, rockets and munitions are recovered.

 

[Neo]

Don't twist the figuers idiot, the article says $8.5 million per day for Israel, NOT BILLIONS.

 

[sydsnyper]

The flotilla incident happened at a time when Israel and Turkey had joint defense cooperation and were pretty tight (maybe not so much since Erdogan's recent islamic leanings) and the turks know better than to get into a confrontation with Israel over terrorist vermin and illegal arm shipments...

Wake up man.... there is no conspiracy here.....

As for palestinians, they are seen as nothing more than critters in the arab world, which is why countries like Egypt and Jordan flushed them out. You think anyone other than your islamic dreamy eyes welcome the palestinians... after what they did in lebanon during their civil war......

Without US' military and financial support Israel would not
Dare to attack poor palestinians. I wish Turkey had bombed Israel when her flotilla was attacked in international waters and 13 turks were massacred. Again US saved Israel's sorry arse by using all her political weight against Turkey.

 

[sydsnyper]

Let me interrupt you while you are 'arguing with yourself' .... the palestinians got more money from more sources.... un-accounted money. This is besides the arms Iran and Hezbolla sends them.....

Don't twist the figuers idiot, the article says $8.5 million per day for Israel, NOT BILLIONS.

 

[Neo]

Let me interrupt you while you are 'arguing with yourself' .... the palestinians got more money from more sources.... un-accounted money. This is besides the arms Iran and Hezbolla sends them.....

Jumping.from US aid to 'more.sources'
I am.done talking to a ten year old.

Don't expect further replies from me.

 

[sydsnyper]

Couldn't resist busting you once again.....

You started the topic of US aid to israel v/s palestine. I made an irrefutable point of how palestine gets more aid than Israel and now the retard does not understand what I am talking about....

Please dont forget to reply, I'm kinda getting used to putting you down....

Jumping.from US aid to 'more.sources'
I am.done talking to a ten year old.

Don't expect further replies from me.

 

[Ray]

Without US' military and financial support Israel would not
Dare to attack poor palestinians. I wish Turkey had bombed Israel when her flotilla was attacked in international waters and 13 turks were massacred. Again US saved Israel's sorry arse by using all her political weight against Turkey.

Actually, the Israelis have one thing that overrides any support - the will to survive in a hostile & belligerent neighbourhood.

All the Arab horsemen and all the Arab men could not outwit militarily Israel and never will be able to do so.

Being from the same stock, the Jews are as fanatical as the Muslims, and since their survival is at stake, they will do anything and everything to self preserve.

Israel ranks as the world's sixth largest arms exporter in 2012 with $2.4 billion worth of defence sales, according to IHS Jane's. She sure is not short of money.

I don't understand your ire against Israel when you are buying defence stuff from Israel!!

Israel has exported security equipment over the past five years to Pakistan and four Arab countries, Israeli newspaper Haaretz has quoted a British government report as saying.

Totally duplicitous.

Pakistan and Arabs finance Israel and then act as champions of the Islamic cause and Palestine!

 

[Blackwater]

so bolvia has overtaken pakistan in thakedari of muslim ummah. bolvia has done something even pakis or saudis dont ever dare to do.

I do hereby declare stripping of islamic thakedari from pakistan

 

[Ray]

And US has a history of using veto against all UN resolutions condemning Israel.
So its political, financial and military support.
Without it, Israel would seize to exisit which is my point.

Well, even Pakistan is backed with political, military and financial support by others.

Is that not a truism?

Let me give some examples.

Lets start with CENTO, SEATO and then the Chinese assisting Pak nuclear programme to build the bombs and NK the rocket technology.

Who saved Pakistan in 1948, 1975, 1971 and 1999?

Can we forget the Saudis, Jordan and other Arabs etc assisting Pakistan during war and peace?

Remember Saudis giving Pakistan free oil and then after international hullabaloo making it a deferred payment or the Pak FM visiting KSA for money to salvage the Pak budget?

Pakistan is subsisting on foreign munificence or else she would cease to exist.

and you even take the aid of the enemy of Arabs and Islam - Israel!

So. lets get real!

 

[blueblood]

US Aid to Israel and the Palestinians

Americans are jackasses for giving so little aid to the lovely and innocent people of Palestine, the followers of most peaceful religion there ever was and will be.

And the cute little kids who are busy studying to get ahead in life.

America and Israel sucks:thumb: