'U.S. wants to use India in missile shield against Russia, China'

[Dark Sorrow]

And no, Russia does not exploit us. Unless you consider all the cooperation in defence, energy, space, etc. to be "exploitation".

Remember the ongoing vikramadatya issue. The Russians played hard ball even while giving ToT for T-90 barell. Denial to provide ramjet engine technology for bhramos. Denial to provide ToT for single crystal compressor technology for AL-31 turbofan.
Ther are many such case. Just goole and see you will find.

 

[civfanatic]

Remember the ongoing vikramadatya issue. The Russians played hard ball even while giving ToT for T-90 barell. Denial to provide ramjet engine technology for bhramos. Denial to provide ToT for single crystal compressor technology for AL-31 turbofan.
Ther are many such case. Just goole and see you will find.

Russia is the only country that would have even given us such technology.

Once America gives us all the technology that Russia has given us, with the same lack of sanctions and lack of controls on use, then I will instantly become pro-America. But there is no way America will give us aircraft carriers, hypersonic cruise missiles, or nuclear submarines, so your point is null.

If you think raising the prices of weaponry to make a few millions more is exploitation, then I'm afraid you don't know what exploitation is. 'Exploitation' is what America and China are doing to our dear neighbors in the West.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Remember the ongoing vikramadatya issue. The Russians played hard ball even while giving ToT for T-90 barell. Denial to provide ramjet engine technology for bhramos. Denial to provide ToT for single crystal compressor technology for AL-31 turbofan.
Ther are many such case. Just goole and see you will find.

There is nothing special about UNCLE SAM also. Buying goods from uncle sam itself is a big issue, never even think of ToT from UNCLE SAM. UNCLE SAM is too dangerous to believe. Atleast the RUSSIANS would agree for ToT after some background negotiations. You cannot expect the same UNCLE SAM. This is clear in the case of CISMOA. "EAST OR WEST RUSSIANS ARE THE BEST", when compared to UNCLE SAM(US).

 

[AOE]

Not responding to the overall gist of the comment above, rather to the bolded specifics.

Okay, well then I shall respond in turn.

If NAM was a club of tyrants and murderers, members of NATO, CEATO and SENTO were no saints either!

This sounds awfully like moral equivalence, and a tu quoque. The NAM has had the likes of Tito, Nasser, Castro, Mugabe, Suharto, and Mahathir Mohammad into their fold, as well as Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Belarus, and Algeria; some 'non-aligned' group this bunch are.

NAM had 118 + 18 countries as its members. Some members may not be angels, similalrly as in UN. You arent proposing that India shouldn't join UN too, are you?

Did I say that? No. Although I will say I have a bit of a dislike for the UN myself, but that has nothing to do with whether or not India should be a part of it.

Nehru was a Socialist to start with. But the tilt of India as a nation took place later.
If India had any doubts whether it should "align" slightly [ ] towards US or USSR, then 1971 would have cleared it. Sadly, Kennedys were long gone by then.

Well the socialism explains a lot. This indecisiveness has actually been counter-productive to Indian foreign policy, and it is unsurprising how these events unfolded. Nehru also recognized the PRC when it formed and look how well that turned out for him. By 1971 it was too late, by then Nehru had been supporting and siding with the Soviet Union for 20 years, and the US only was involved to stop the spread of Soviet influence in the region. You can thank the Nehru-Gandhi dynasty for this.

This is exactly how the west ended up supporting numerous tyrants and mass murderers.

Yes and Nehru clearly didn't. The US was searching for another Attaturk and they thought they found it with Pakistan, unfortunately they eventually found this not to be the case.

India's choice to support the Russians or rather not to support the US and Pakistanis, in this particular instance, IMO should be a no-brainer!

You're right, it is a no-brainer. It's the end result of Indias flawed foreign policy that looked to isolate it in the overall picture and give off the impression that it was siding with Soviet bloc countries. Yet again, you can thank Nehru for the diplomatic mess of 1971.

 

[Fighterz]

The US only wants to sell its overexpensive weapons and support more jobs in military spending. The Chinese are keeping their currency afloat and they would not want China to fail. No other country would step in and the Fed would have to create so much inflation that the Carter years would look tame. No US politicans want China to fail despite all the retoric.