Assault Rifle

Discussion in 'Land Forces' started by Vikramaditya, Jul 28, 2009.

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When picking a gun, what would your primary consideration be?

Poll closed Feb 24, 2013.
  1. Accuracy and Range.

    37.6%
  2. Beauty and Curio value.

    3.5%
  3. Reliability.

    51.8%
  4. Weight and Portability.

    1.2%
  5. Eeek! No guns! Only white pigeons!

    5.9%
  1. W.G.Ewald

    W.G.Ewald Defence Professionals/ DFI member of 2 Defence Professionals

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    Question is whether this is available in 00 shot size. Shot size shown is for geese.
     
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    hitesh New Member

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    If you examine a bit more you could see her tummy exposed (at the end of guns magazine ) . the conclusion -she is a model
     
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    Patriot Senior Member Senior Member

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    She looks like a model not any soldier. Yummy she is good. She can kill even without this gun.
     
  4. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Ha Ha ...

    You guys are DRDO photo nuts.....

    when will DRDO progress beyond photos ???
     
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    bhramos Elite Member Elite Member

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    Ninja AK47

     
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    bhramos Elite Member Elite Member

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    what model gun is this.....?
    AK-200!!!!!
     
  7. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Not a Assault rifle but still..
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Its a AKM with P-RAIL and M4 butt..
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    7.62-M43

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    Assault Rifles...

    For your Viewing Pleasure....

    Pic1 : Arsenal Bulgaria Made Ak47
    pics 2&3 : Czech made VZ-58 I think Indian Para Commandos carry these in Kashmir
    Pics 4&5 : Polish made Tantal AK-74 caliber 5.45X39

    Have more to show....
    these are all semi auto though...not select fire..
    Thought I would still share
     

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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    The types of AKM Indian Army Use..
     
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    Neil Senior Member Senior Member

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    POLISH KBS rifles issued to paracommandos during 1980s.this pic is taken during the lankan mission.
    plus in addition to the under folding PM md 65 romanian aks, IA also use side folding Pm md90 rifles.even though it resembles to the east german mpi72s the romanians have palmswell handguards.
     
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    Neil Senior Member Senior Member

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    Indian ‘AK-47′ too fast for its own good

    Even as soldiers in combat zones insist on carrying AK-47s instead of the indigenous INSAS rifles, a home-made AK-like weapon has finally appealed to the paramilitary forces. However, the Indian rifle, originally designed to fire faster than the Russian Kalashnikov itself, may have to slow down a bit, just to ensure smooth shooting. This process may delay its introduction by 7-8 months.

    Called the Trichy Assault Rifle (TAR), the gun is being developed at the Tiruchirapalli Ordnance Factory in Tamil Nadu. The faster firing capacity was the USP for the Indian AK. It could fire 800 bullets in a minute as against 600 from the Russian rifle.

    However, this speed has also led to a hitch, which was noticed during trials held recently. There were stoppages during firing at times. Rectifying the error will lead to a lower firing rate, even though the Indian version is expected to remain ahead of the original Kalashnikov, firing close to 650 rounds a minutes.

    Ironically, the gun’s developers are not worried about the changes as such, but the time required in the process.

    Special permission to make 120 new TARs, with the issue resolved, has been obtained from the ‘AK-47′(OFB). But it may not take less than 7-8 months to finish the job. The delay will be more procedural than technical, say sources.

    Making certain parts will need outsourcing of raw materials. Being a government organization, the entire process of issuing tenders, evaluating bids and getting final approval will have to be followed. This will consume most of the time in coming up with the new rifle.

    Trials were conducted by representatives of various forces like ITBP, BSF, CRPF and Seema Suraksha Bal. Officials of one of the paramilitary forces evaluating the rifle insisted on early modification, so that a decision is taken on acquiring the indigenous weapon. “There are chances that they may have to go for imports if the rectified version is not put up soon,” a source said.

    As far as the stoppages are concerned, they are said to be because of a simple mechanical reason say sources in the developing agency. To increase the rate of fire, the travel time for the bullet to leave the barrel was reduced. However, it was seen during rapid firing sessions that at times the subsequent bullet would reach the point where the empty cartridge of the first shot was yet to be ejected. A narrow ejection window also added to the problem, leading to the jamming.

    One does not encounter such a problem in the original AK-47 even when the bullets are fired rapidly, because enough time gap is ensured between the travel of two bullets and throwing out of the empty cartridge. Similar changes will have to be made in the Indian gun too. The travel time will be increased so that there is a gap between two rounds and diameter of the ejection window will also be increased.

    Such jamming is not a frequent problem, but will have to be solved. This will reduce the rate of fire to 650 rounds a minute, sources said.

    The developers call it a new rifle altogether, as the mechanism which pushes the bullet is different from the AK-47 developed by Russia’s Mikhail Kalashnikov. In fact, ordnance factory had developed a rifle similar to AK-47, but Kalashnikov himself had raised copyright objections.

    So, a new rifle, which pushes the bullet through a tilting breach block rather than a rotating system like in the Russian version, was developed. It hoped to do away with the copyright hassles, sources said. The gun was developed based on feedback from troops in paramilitary forces, including those in Naxal-hit areas, who preferred an AK-like weapon instead of the INSAS.

    Army prefers multi-barrel rifles

    The ordnance factory is targeting paramilitary forces to sell the rifle rather than the army, since the latter is already going ahead with the purchase of multi-calibre rifles. The army is scouting the international market to buy rifles with interchangeable barrels of different calibres, like 7.52, 5.56 and 6.68mm. Talks are underway with US’ Colt, Baretta from Italy and Israeli Military Industry (IMI). The ordnance factory is not in the fray for multi-barrel rifles so far. Experts also believe it would not be practical for a soldier to use such a weapon. Moreover, after initial procurement there are chances that subsequent batches of the multi-barrel rifles may be made in India itself, a source said.

    Not going great guns

    The TAR has been built to fire faster than the AK 47 but the very speed which was its USP is also the reason for stoppages during rapid fire. This is because by the time one bullet is shot off and the empty cartridge thrown out, the other one already reaches the same point in the gun. At times, after prolonged fire, it creates a sort of traffic jam in the gun, leading to stoppages.

    In the AK 47, on the other hand, the timing is such that rapid firing is a smooth affair. This is because enough time gap is ensured between the travel of two bullets and the process of throwing out of the empty cartridge.

    Ordnance Factory hopes to reduce the stoppages in the TAR by increasing the time lag. But even after this, TAR will be able to fire 650 rounds a minute, 50 more than the AK.

    The developers apprehend more of a procedural delay than a technical one, due to the slow pace at which government departments function.

    A rectified TAR will have to be presented well in time to make it a choice over imports.




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  15. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Perhaps he/she dont know IA and other like 7.62M43 over 5.56nato in Irregular warfare..

    MOD is good for nothing, Only harm more..

    In other words, Import is the best for IA & MOD..



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    Actually it should say: Good going !
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Colt: Colt 7.62m43

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    Beratta: ARX-160 7.62m43

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    IMI: Galil ACE 7.62m43

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    Anyone can win..
     
  17. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    I am still optimistic to give Trichy Assault Rifle a second chance. It looks decent enough and as they say, fire really fast. If they can slow down the rate of fire to 650 BPM, then we can expect this to be inducted en masse.
     
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    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Param Senior Member Senior Member

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    LOL you have a keen eye.
     
  20. bhramos

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    is this Indian made AK???
    this pic is from IDRW...
     

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