Assam: Four million Bangladeshi illegals Face Deportation

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  1. Kshatriya87

    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    SC rejects plea, 7 Rohingya to be handed over to Myanmar in first deportation today

    The Supreme Court Thursday rejected the plea to stop the deportation of seven Rohingya immigrants to Myanmar from Assam. The three-judge bench headed by Chief Justice Ranjan Gogoi rejected the plea saying that the seven were found as illegal immigrants by the court earlier and that Myanmar is also ready to accept them as their nationals. “We are not inclined to interfere on the decision taken,” the apex court said.
     
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    Just 7? That's not even a drop in the ocean.
     
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    Kshatriya87 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Its the FIRST deportation. There has to be a starting point. Besides, good that it was 7. SC allowed it. Nobody made unnecessary mess out of it.

    Imagine if you try to deport a 1000 rohingya the very first time itself. Lefties and commies would go haywire. SC would be forced to halt the deportation. The process would get delayed by years, maybe decades.

    Now we have a good foundation / base case. 7 have been deported. Based on same grounds, same reasoning, which has already been now proven in SC, we can deport more. No body can say a thing.
     
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  4. Sourav Kumar

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    Assam: Five people shot dead by suspected ULFA(I) militants in Tinsukia

    https://indianexpress.com/article/n...assam-ulfa-militants-attack-tinsukia-5430094/

    What the headlines do not say is that those 5 gunned down were Bengalis- I do not know if they were Hindu Bengalis or Muslim Bengalis/ Bangladeshis. (OK, read the news article. The murdered 5 were Hindu Bengalis)

    This is the trend in Assam that I had talked about earlier. There are groups in Assam (whose feelings and actions are supported by common Assamese on the ground and the Assamese media) who want to kill/ loot/ murder Benaglis out of assam (illegally of course, we are not talking about leaglities here)

    When this is the ground situation in Assam, the "nationalists" from far ends of India (who have no idea of Assam or Bengalis) are too enthusiastic that some "Illegal Bangladeshis" would be deported. The truth is it is the rule of brute force and survival of the fittest. Human beings are not much evolved above primitive apes.
     
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  5. Chinmoy

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    Well you have just showed how brain of Momota works.
     
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  6. Sourav Kumar

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    Wrong and hasty allegation.

    What Mamata wants: All Bengalis (legal, illegal, Hindu, Muslim, Bengalis from India, Bangladeshis etc) come from Assam to WB and vote for her.

    What I want: All Hindu Bengalis in Assam must be given citizenship of India and they must not be deported. All illegal Muslim Bengalis in Assam must be deported. The cut-off year for this consideration must be 1947. I have made this clear numerous times in previous posts in this thread.

    What secular Assamese and most Assamese want:
    All Bengalis from Assam must be pushed out by any means. To that end, their deal with secular Rajiv Gandhi was Assam Accord 1985 (the best deal that they could manage!) which I as an Indian cirizen and as a Hindu Bengali find ludicrously secular, as ludicrous and as secular as partition of India.

    What uninformed raitas/ some nationalists want: All Bangladeshis from Assam must be evicted. These guys however have two flaws in their views. First they selfishly, safely and short-sightedly only want to consider the political boundary of India since 1947 ie after partition for this issue. As if Hindu Bengalis who could not come (or could come) to India from East Pakistan/ Bangladesh due to various reasons do not have any right over India! Second, most of them have no idea how many types of Bengali speaking people are there in this planet and in this subcontinent and they have no idea how the average Assamese wishes that all Bengalis (irrespective of legalities) get pushed out of Assam. I know that since I understood 80% of assamese language and could follow the narrative that Assamese media peddles around this issue.

    I do not know why you did not allege that "Well you have just showed how brain of Tapodhir Bhattacharya or Shiladitya Deb (instead of Mamata) works". I tend to agree with what Tapodhir Bhattacharya has already spoken on this issue.
     
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  7. Sourav Kumar

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    The ground situation in Assam is like following:
    1) Former ULFA militants can come and proclaim in public gatherings in Assam that the Assamese must establish that Assam is for the Assamese and that ALL Bengalis must vacate Barak valley. But no action is taken against these former ULFA militants. Assamese media plays along nicely.

    2) Former VC of Assam University Tapodhir Bhattacharya writes about the issues related to practical implementation of NRC in Assam and how ALL Bengalis in Assam are getting harrassed by the carrier and maintainer of Assamese Culture. A case is filed against him and he is interrogated by police. After that Assamese media and assamese "intellectuals" gang up on him to call him names and call him a conspirator against assamese and what not. (Tapodhir Bhattacharya is a secular Bengali and personally I do not completely agree with his secular thoughts but I agree with him on many issues that he highlights which are not reported in Assamese media or in Indian Media)

    An article in English on the above issues is here:

    https://www.barakbulletin.com/en_US...olumn-what-happened-to-freedom-of-expression/

    In the above article, Tapodhir Bhattacharya's original article in Bengali that was published in ajkal newspaper is also included. The Hindu Bengali members here may take a look to judge for themselves on what is happening in Assam in the name of NRC based on flawed secular Assam Accord signed by secular/militant Assamese and secular Rajiv Gandhi.

    My personal take from Assamese media:
    A non-bengali non-assamese Hindi speaking BJP MLA(or MP) had spoken about the practical issues around NRC and Assam-for-Assamese-militant-mentality. He had spoken about how the Hindus in Bangladesh are tortured and why as Bharatiyas (son of the soil of Akhanda Bharat before partition), those Bengali Hindus have a right to settle in Indian states that neighbour East pakistan/ Bangladesh. Now I saw as a reaction to this, how low and propagandist Assamese media can get. Assamese media showed a 5 second video of 2-3 Bengali Hindu girls laughing and smiling in a Durgapuja in Bangladesh and commented that "We can see Hindu Bengalis are enjoying in Bangladesh. Let all Bengalis go to Bangladesh". This is how low, mean and lying Assamese media is. And Assamese media are like that because mostly Assamese people also carry similar thoughts. We must not forget that Hindu Bengalis (even if they were communists and not really Hindud) never showed any separatist behaviour towards idea of India and contributed immensely to the reneissance and freedom struggle of India whereas ULFA militants were produced from Assam and from Assamese population.

    More reference:
    https://bhrpc.wordpress.com/tag/dr-tapodhir-bhattacharya/
     
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    I would summarize both of your replies into one.

    First coming to the point of Dhola incident. Do you even know what is the ground reality of Dhola and Sadiya? This place is a transit point of interstate gangs and even terrorists like ULAFA and NSCN. So when you simply say that its an Assamese mentality to harass Bengali population at the drop of a hat, you are at fault. This killing is targeted killing and not a mass massacre. Targeted killing is only done when someone has grudge against the targets. If it would have been an anti Bengali move, the whole settlement would have been torched or massacred to send across a message.

    Now coming to NRC issue, I have time and again said that BJP had done a blunder when they announced that they would let the Bangladeshi Hindus to settle in Assam. Congress had been doing the same for ages with Muslims, but no one created such a hue and cry on it. Remember Bongal Kheda of 1960? That too had started because of such a political blunder on part of Congress.
     
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    India to Deport 2nd Batch of Rohingyas Kept in Assam Detention Camp - Reports

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    Seven Rohingya immigrants, who have been staying in Assam illegally, was deported by India to their home country Myanmar in October 2018
    India is now taking steps to identify Rohingyas by collecting their biometric data and will detain them so that they may be deported to Myanmar in batches
    New Delhi — India has decided to deport five Rohingyas to Myanmar, the second batch of Rohingyas living in detention camps in Assam, a state in India's northeast. They will be handed over to Myanmar authorities at Moreh, in the Tengnoupal district of Manipur later this week.
    "They are on their way," Bhaskar Jyoti Mahanta, Assam's additional director general of police (border), confirming the repatriation of the five Rohingyas who are considered illegal immigrants and national security threat by the government.
    More than 120,000 Rohingya were forced into camps five years ago, and their suffering may have only worsened since Nobel Peace laureate Aung San Suu Kyi rose to power in Myanmar last year.
    Ministry of Home Affairs on 1 January informed the nation's parliament that at least 478 Rohingyas have been apprehended so far by India's Border Security Force since 2015.
    Agencies
     
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    five five five five five five five
     
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    ALERT: 1672 illegal Bangladeshi families found clandestinely living in Assam's tribal dominated Karbi Anglong. All of them have been evicted.


     
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    Just evicted for now. Not deported. The job doesn't get completed till all immigrants are thrown out of India.
     
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    It seems the Assamese people are not better than Bangladeshi Muslims. The Assamese people are basically a tribe who believe no-one else must live and prosper in their land ie Assam. I did not have this opinion even 1 year back but after interacting in this forum and doing my own self-studies, I have locked my own position on this.

    I think most people don't know the history of Assam. So here it goes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bongal_Kheda

    I have never seen an Assamese guy in my school, college, or office or in life so far. If I see one, my policy towards him would be simple: "Assami Kheda" :D ;)

    Note: Assami people also have a "terrorist" background/ heritage/ legacy!
     
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    Assam: 30 Bangladeshi nationals including three women were deported yesterday to Bangladesh through the Kalibari Ghat checkpoint in Karimganj.

     
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    489 Bangladeshis were detained and 480 were deported from 1.1.2016 to 30.4.2018 and it has not detained and deported any Rohingya during this period. SC is hearing the PIL seeking deportation of Rohingya & Bangladeshi immigrants

     
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    RAW skills create a fake NGO where is agents would pose as muslim & coerce these immigrants to move to Pakistan... Then smuggle them in there through Rajasthan & Gujarat borders, like they enter India from Bangladesh.
    A state funded group will have enough funds to bribe all their border troops. The "secret"tunnels will just be a formality.

    And if Pakis shoot or detain some of them, muslims trying to enter Pakistan from India, then it's be good for India too.
     
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