Asian? Yes. How about Pakistani? Or is speaking the truth racism?

[Scalieback]

Sigh. Here's another attempt to educate you:

I can quote wiki all day if you like. The problem is, if you believe what Stalin said you're quoting the arch enemy of nazism (or national socialism to you)

:Unfortunately, you know nothing, so I don't want to waste my time "debating" you. Have a good life.

I clearly know more than you and your weak and pathetic ramblings remind me of that jumped up Corporal.

Still, like Joseph I assume you never served

 

[Known_Unknown]

Seriously! You need to learn about Nazi Germany which is a lot more, and at times contradictory to what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf.


I am not interested in debating with you. Hitler changed his ideology several times in the course of time. You might as well explain, over and above those 1000 pages you mention, why Hitler collaborated with the Japanese, Chechens, and Indians.

Frankly, it's about time you did justice to your title and avatar.


There are too many similarities.


Speeches count, but speeches alone do not. I will consider your advise; you might as well mine.

Hitler destroyed that faction of the Nazi party that espoused Socialism over Nationalism. He had senior socialist party leaders killed/exiled when they refused to fall in line with his ideology. The only reason the party had the word 'Socialist' in its title was to appeal to German workers, who constituted a significant voting bloc.

As for Hitler allying with Japanese and other races, unlike what western propaganda propagates, Hitler did not want to conquer or enslave all other races under the Aryan/white race. He only wanted Greater Germany to be racially homogenous/Aryan. In fact, he greatly admired the Japanese.


Maybe you can start another thread where we can discuss this. Don't want to derail this one.

 

[pmaitra]

Hitler destroyed that faction of the Nazi party that espoused Socialism over Nationalism. He had senior socialist party leaders killed/exiled when they refused to fall in line with his ideology. The only reason the party had the word 'Socialist' in its title was to appeal to German workers, who constituted a significant voting bloc.

Largely correct, but my comment was about Nazi Germany, and not specific to Hitler or Mein Kampf.

As for Hitler allying with Japanese and other races, unlike what western propaganda propagates, Hitler did not want to conquer or enslave all other races under the Aryan/white race. He only wanted Greater Germany to be racially homogenous/Aryan. In fact, he greatly admired the Japanese.

True.

Maybe you can start another thread where we can discuss this. Don't want to derail this one.

Sounds like a good idea. Please do it when you get time, and I will jump in later.

 

[Scalieback]

The only reason the party had the word 'Socialist' in its title was to appeal to German workers, who constituted a significant voting bloc.

Thought you were off?

Read the history of your party Joseph, come on.

Maybe you can start another thread where we can discuss this. Don't want to derail this one.

The first sensible thing you've said Well done.

 

[Scalieback]

As for Hitler allying with Japanese and other races, unlike what western propaganda propagates, Hitler did not want to conquer or enslave all other races under the Aryan/white race. He only wanted Greater Germany to be racially homogenous/Aryan.

Really? Try 6.50 onwards: Fate of Soviet Soldiers in WWII - YouTube

 

[mayfair]

comes across as racist to me.

"We're upto our knees in Feenian blood, surrender or you die...."

Tell me what you make of this. Is this racist?

 

[Scalieback]

"We're upto our knees in Feenian blood, surrender or you die...."

Tell me what you make of this. Is this racist?

In the UK it would be: Billy Boys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[mayfair]

In the UK it would be: Billy Boys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I am fully aware of that. My question was- how would you view this?

 

[Scalieback]

I am fully aware of that. My question was- how would you view this?

Me? Couldn't give two hoots about religion. It says CE (C of E) on my dog tags and I was christened, but that's pretty much it.

Why? Should it bother me?

 

[mayfair]

Me? Couldn't give two hoots about religion. It says CE (C of E) on my dog tags and I was christened, but that's pretty much it.

Why? Should it bother me?

I suppose I did not my make myself clear enough.

How would you classify the Billy Boys chant? What does it sound to you like?

 

[Scalieback]

I suppose I did not my make myself clear enough.

How would you classify the Billy Boys chant? What does it sound to you like?

To me it sounds anti-catholic. I'd say it was racist ie putting down catholics by protestants. However, would it really bother me? No. Would I do anything about it? No. Would I think those that sang it were racist bigots? Yes.

Why? Have I somehow trapped myself?

Off to bed now. Answers next week if I'm about

 

[mayfair]

To me it sounds anti-catholic. I'd say it was racist ie putting down catholics by protestants. However, would it really bother me? No. Would I do anything about it? No. Would I think those that sang it were racist bigots? Yes.

Why? Have I somehow trapped myself?

Not at all. But thanks for your reply. That explains quite a few things actually.

 

[Scalieback]

Not at all. But thanks for your reply. That explains quite a few things actually.

Why's that?

Genuinely off now, just got caught up in other threads by bigots x 2

 

[W.G.Ewald]

British Court Convicts Woman of Racism for Calling Woman from New Zealand “Australian”

 

[pmaitra]

The British judicial system is a joke.

Next time, you call a blueberry a blackberry, you will be accused of racism.

 

[pmaitra]

Oxford exploitation trial: Girl 'told she would be shot'

A 14-year-old girl was told she would be shot if she did not obey a man she then had sex with in a park, a court has heard.

The girl is one of six alleged victims of nine men accused of grooming and exploiting children in Oxford.

She described being taken to parks and flats where she was given drugs and alcohol and had sex with men.

She said she would run away with a friend to meet a group of Asian men in Oxford that she knew as K-Dog, Jammy, Khan and Acter.

The jury heard the men were nice to the girl at first but later became "demanding" and "threatening".

When asked why she did it the girl said: "I felt I didn't have a choice".

On one occasion the jury heard she had been drinking in a field with one of the men.

She told the court: "He started pulling his zip down on his trousers.

"He said that if I didn't do as I was told he knew someone that would shoot me."

The defendants are:

• Kamar Jamil, 27, of Aldwych Road, Oxford
• Akhtar Dogar, 32, of Tawney Street, Oxford; and his brother Anjum Dogar, 30, of Tawney Street, Oxford
• Assad Hussain, 32, of Ashurst Way, Oxford
• Mohammed Karrar, 38, of Kames Close, Oxford; and his brother Bassam Karrar, 33, of Hundred Acres Close, Oxford
• Mohammed Hussain, 24, of Horspath Road, Oxford
• Zeeshan Ahmed, 27, of Palmer Road, Oxford
• Bilal Ahmed, 26, of Suffolk Road, Maidenhead

Full article: BBC News - Oxford exploitation trial: Girl 'told she would be shot'

 

[pmaitra]

I think, from the new article (link below), there has been a marked change in the way these criminals are reported by the British Press.

Link: http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...stani-origin-men-convicted-sex-crimes-uk.html

 

[Tianshan]

so why do pakistanis do this but other south asians do not.

 

[pmaitra]

so why do pakistanis do this but other south asians do not.

You should ask @Blackwater. He is our Pakistan expert.

 

[Ray]

so why do pakistanis do this but other south asians do not.

They are oversexed because of a cloistered lifestyle, but are scared to expose their sexuality as normal macho men do!

Cowardice is the bottomline!