Aryan Invasion Theory thread 2.0

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  1. Indx TechStyle

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    2500 BC Rakhigarhi skeletons have no traces of ‘Aryan gene’, finds DNA study
    Study examined DNA of skeletons found in Rakhigarhi, an Indus Valley Civilisation site in Haryana, and found no traces of R1a1, or Central Asian ‘steppe’, gene.
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    Skeletons found at Rakhigarhi date back to around 2500 BC | YouTube

    A disclaimer

    ‘Movement of Central Asians towards Indus Valley not invasion’

    Draft of the study had created furore
     
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    The whole idea of "insiders and outsiders" in an era where political nation states with borders didn't even exist is funny. Outsider from which line onwards? Everyone was nomadic and people intermingled. Every violent invasion which happened as a result of a war has been documented. The people from the Persian plane migrating on the Indian plane was a nomadic migration, not an invasion. The Tamil script was found in Baluchistan so it's possible that when the nomads from the Persian planes migrated eastward, the people on that river basin shifted southward. These nomadic migration events from thousands of years ago is not comparable to the recent invasions of Ghaznavi and the likes.

    As far as Hinduism goes, the real geographical frontiers of India go until those territories where the local rivers, mountains and kul-devtas of that settlement find a mention and reflection in our epics. The kingdom of Gandhar has a mention as a western frontier. So that's one data point. Brahmadesh (Myanmar) also has a mention, so does Cambodia. Chanakya's Takshasheela is in present day Pakistan. Indus river is in Pakistan. All of these are de facto 'India', even if the present political borders do not reflect it (yet). These will eventually be changed to reflect reality. They don't have to be annexed into India. They can be independent principalities with trade ties with the mothership called India. The people will invariably be Hinduized in 50-100 years anyway.

    A Hindu citizen of Gandhar who moved from (present day Afghan land) into Indian mainland is not an invader. The Islamic invasion of Gandhar from central Asian tribes is an invasion.

    When you have such a vast area, one stretching towards the equator and one stretching up to freezing Himalayas, it's natural to have difference in skin colors and other biological evolution. It's not necessary for everyone in a civilizational nation state to be ethnically homogeneous. Our nation is not based on ethnicity or language, but on Hindu value system. The insistence on ethnic and linguistic differences is church propaganda to divide people into 'victim groups' to cultivate them into an insurgency later.
     
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    I read the paper.

    However the headline is misleading I think.

    Rakhigarhi, Haryana is a Harappan site. The said skeleton belongs to Harappan civilisation(5000BC to 1500BC).

    The paper merely says that this one skeleton has DNA from only South Asians. So Harappan civilization was made up of totally Indian genes. No steppe/central asian/iranian/other genes were present.

    The AIT/AMT theory says that Vedic Aryans had Steppe/Central Asian/Iranian people who appeared around 1500BC.

    So how will Harappan skeleton not having Steppe/Iranian genes prove that Aryans didn't mix later on!

    The paper at max proves that Harappans are totally indigenous Indian people.

    How does anyone draw conclusion that a Harappan era skeleton not having steppe genes disproves any theory?
     
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    As per AIT, Hinduism was imposed on Indian on subcontinent which is much older than 1500 BC.
     
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