Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT)

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  1. Bleh

    Bleh ALLAHU AKBAR Senior Member

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    Not mounting T-90's RCWS on Arjun Mark 1 is just plain dumb though, no question of weight-gain there.
     
  2. shuvo@y2k10

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    It will be done once arjun mk1 comes up for a refit in the next 10 years. I am more interested in a revolution mbt type refit proposed by rhinemetal (for leo2a4) on arjun mk1. This is an add-on upgrade and the weight penalty is about 4-5 tones over mark-1 58.5 tonnes. It will be in the weight class of mk1a and mk2. Rhinemetal is offering this upgrade package to all existing customers of leopard 2a4. Also Turkey has come up with a similar upgarde. Hope DRDO comes up with something like this.

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  3. Bleh

    Bleh ALLAHU AKBAR Senior Member

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    Mark 1 was supposed to be 58.5t but was 62.5t. With the upgrades it was 68t & being brought below 65t...
    Arjun is taller, wider, longer then Leopard 2 with a much bigger & Jennie engine too.
     
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  4. Aaj ka hero

    Aaj ka hero Regular Member

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    Man will you please stop this.
    Use advertising spaces here.
     
  5. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Can you reduce the weight of the gun and bring it to below 12 tons to match it with Bofors, Dhanus and ATIHOS?
    That is bloody question? Nothing more nothing less ...

    Ka Kari Tarak Barhahain Sakha ??
     
  6. Enquirer

    Enquirer Senior Member Senior Member

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    If someone says something SIX times over TWO different posts, then it's not called a typo! It just reveals lack of knowledge!!!
    And then trying to spin it as typo is completely DISHONEST.
    Your dishonestly was very obvious when you quoted stuff out of context (about BFSR-MR) and hid the link to the article as it disproved your notion!
     
  7. Enquirer

    Enquirer Senior Member Senior Member

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    You're an idiot beyond common belief!!
    You lack of basic commonsense is as astonishing as it is hurtful!
    If the top tanks in the world (with similar feature set) are in the 62-65 ton range, then how do you expect a first time tank maker to magically supersede??
    Arjun is indeed one of the best in its class of tanks!

    When US (that actually has to ship or airlift the tanks) can deploy it all over the world, surely IA too can! The initial rona-dona of IA's tactical bridges not supporting the weight was solved quite easily - by designing stronger bridges! No nutjob discards an assault rifle because the strap available is too weak - just get a stronger strap!!!!
     
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  8. This is patently FALSE. In the Army's own trials Arjun outgunned and out performed T90. So on what basis are you saying it will be a dud in battle. Agree that it may be little overweight but that doesn't mean its a dud in battle !
     
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    I dont understand why this guy has so much anger.. Look at our R&D budget then talk. And in our country engineering cource is completely ancient then to we are able to make things thats phenomenal.
     
  10. Bleh

    Bleh ALLAHU AKBAR Senior Member

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    What @Bhadra is saying is pretty clear. If it was not possible, they could have just refused like some army officers hoped they would...

    Had DRDO slapped a powerful engine on an uparmoured T-55 platform & threw it at them, we'd have hundreds of indigenous tanks.
    It too would be as shitty as T-90s & ammo rack would blow into fireballs... but hey, they'd be below 60tons.

     
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  11. Enquirer

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    IA had the habit of picking the best features from a myriad brochures and calling it PSQRs - because IA didn't have inhouse capability to design or understand design.....forget projecting facts based long term need!

    Only when someone has developed multiple variants of a product over several decades can they accurately project what is feasible and what isn't!
    Given that Arjun was the first design attempt by CVRDE, they did a fantastic job. Unable to bend laws of physics and unable to defy gravity they ended up with the most optimal product that science would permit with the technology of the day - which is vouched by similar weight for similar features by top class tank design companies in the world.

    The entire episode only reveals, if any, the absolute stupidity and lack of knowledge by IA. Sure, DRDO should/could have educated them early on....but the fact is IA acted as an over privileged brat.....there's no other way to put it.

    IA specifically asked for a 4-man-crew....and also stipulated extraordinary crew-comfort in terms of space etc.....obviously a bigger tank will create bigger weight!!! For the sake of clarity....T90 is a 3-man crew tank!
     
  12. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Tujhe discussion karna hai ya meri soongega ?
     
  13. Enquirer

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    Where ever you copied that from........it is the first sensible thing you said in a long while..............
     
  14. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    In your irresticeable itch on your posterior, you have started casting aspiration on Indian Army!

    That speaks volumes about your itch.

    There is a seperate thread on Arjun go and get laid there.
     
  15. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    @Sandeep0159 Please keep out. This shit filled pond .... the way I see it is a rebellion of underwold typ who get the voice here only to spoil the things further...

    Otherwise who is worried about their orders, their product, their mal. People at the deciding end keep thousand of such scientist in their stomach and do not allow them to move ...

    They are wise people at decision making end and system runs on them... not on this filth.
     
  16. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Is that the way your Mom taught you English or may be some sodomising teacher ?
     
  17. Blood+

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    Why don't you just shut the fuck up and let the boy decide for himself, huh??!!
    Ahh...and here comes the conspiracy theory.
    Yeah, we know how wise those fellows at the deciding end are.
     
  18. Blood+

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    Nope, she taught my how to break jaws and shit, wanna see??I could always fulfill your wish, after all, I live to serve, I'm a public servant after all.
    So you're a homophobe as well.How predictable.
     
  19. Bhadra

    Bhadra Defence Professionals Defence Professionals Senior Member

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    Read the thread you Charlie !

    your hygiene factor in personality traits is shitty man. Go check up with a psychiatrist.
    Enough for the day or wish to continue ??
     
  20. Blood+

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    Really??!!Newsflash - Vietnam's over.....been that way for a long fucking time, grandpa!!

    Wow!!The way you figured that out from behind the screen....just fabulous, speaks volumes of your experience.Lemme guess - you were a janitor in the army??
    I thought it's night in our country.
     

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