Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT) Mark II

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I was asking about the MBT one,army has released an RFI back 2015 for the replacement of t-72 from 2025-27.

Since then there has been no word on it.

Wish any indigenous design makes it.But the way it was out together,I believe army was favouring the t-14 by quoting the tank should be in medium category.

Can Arjun mk2 with aps achieve the goals??????
Afaik army said just they need an Armata like Indian platform. Some experts said at that time that Armata can be a good case study for India's own development. And that's for entire FRCV not just for FMBT. I don't know they ever mentioned T-14 perticularly. Even T-14 is much heavier (around 60T by Russian defence posts,claimed a Quera user, personally I have no info) than is claimed. Besides it is longer thus need more space to move. So can't be used in urban gullies,or in mountainous terrain of India. For that T-90MS is quite perfect.

T-72 Ajeya sees a recent third time (or second whatever you say) upgrade package. Will be equivalent of Russian T-72B3. So they will be in service till 2035 at least.

NGMBT (as termed by DRDO scientists in their article,rather FMBT) has two prototypes on paper. But it need further study to start work practically.

By the way,I don't want without enough experience work on FMBT / NGMBT starts. Arjun Mk 2, with 1500 hp & APS is enough . Now time to time they must be modified with better electronics,engine etc. When we will get better metallurgy,with same design, weight will be reducted.

What we need most is good ammos. OFB rather concentrate on it.
 

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In my personal opinion Armata like tanks is nothing new but such concept of crew in a armoured capsule and unmanned turret existed in the West in 70s and 80s but was never fielded. For India better choice is obviously Arjun mk3 and future versions. But DRDO is ready with GNMBT tank with its modules being in advanced stage of development and a prototype can be fielded in double quick time in case army decides to issue a GSQR. Only logical reason to go for GNMBT rather than future versions of Arjun may be army wants a new higher caliber 130-140 mm gun inspired by recent Rhinemetal announcement. In that case a completely redesigned turret and chassis is required.But if army sticks to 120mm caliber then future arjun's are the way forward.
 

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Research into Weight reduction of Arjun Mk2 is going on in full swing in CVRDE. For example now the axle and road wheels will be manufactured from carbon fibre reinforced polymer matrix composite. This will significantly reduce its weight and only from this about 1.4 tons is shelved from Arjun mk 2. Further weight saving will come from using lightweight Aluminium alloy based track (source: Broadsword). I am posting a few pictures regarding the same. But the thing is there will be no compromise on armour protection and ultrahigh hardness steel DMRL 1700 will be used (as opposed to use of HNS steel which is lightweight but have inferior mechanical and ballistic properties compared to DMR 1700 or medium hardness steel developed by DMRL as being falsely reported by Ajai Shukla).

ARJUN WEIGHT REDUCTION 1.JPG
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Source : http://publications.drdo.gov.in/ojs/index.php/dsj/article/view/11541/5917

P.S : always follow DRDO official publications instead of our "esteemed journalist" with questionable credentials.
 

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Research into Weight reduction of Arjun Mk2 is going on in full swing in CVRDE. For example now the axle and road wheels will be manufactured from carbon fibre reinforced polymer matrix composite. This will significantly reduce its weight and only from this about 1.4 tons is shelved from Arjun mk 2. Further weight saving will come from using lightweight Aluminium alloy based track (source: Broadsword). I am posting a few pictures regarding the same. But the thing is there will be no compromise on armour protection and ultrahigh hardness steel DMRL 1700 will be used (as opposed to use of HNS steel which is lightweight but have inferior mechanical and ballistic properties compared to DMR 1700 or medium hardness steel developed by DMRL as being falsely reported by Ajai Shukla).

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Source : http://publications.drdo.gov.in/ojs/index.php/dsj/article/view/11541/5917

P.S : always follow DRDO official publications instead of our "esteemed journalist" with questionable credentials.
With all these improvements Arjun will come out as a true beast , Chini and tanks will be no match for it......
 

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Research into Weight reduction of Arjun Mk2 is going on in full swing in CVRDE. For example now the axle and road wheels will be manufactured from carbon fibre reinforced polymer matrix composite. This will significantly reduce its weight and only from this about 1.4 tons is shelved from Arjun mk 2. Further weight saving will come from using lightweight Aluminium alloy based track (source: Broadsword). I am posting a few pictures regarding the same. But the thing is there will be no compromise on armour protection and ultrahigh hardness steel DMRL 1700 will be used (as opposed to use of HNS steel which is lightweight but have inferior mechanical and ballistic properties compared to DMR 1700 or medium hardness steel developed by DMRL as being falsely reported by Ajai Shukla).

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Source : http://publications.drdo.gov.in/ojs/index.php/dsj/article/view/11541/5917

P.S : always follow DRDO official publications instead of our "esteemed journalist" with questionable credentials.
Hope to see this research work implemented in the MBT2. What are the chances of getting such research work in mainstream product?
 

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Hope to see this research work implemented in the MBT2. What are the chances of getting such research work in mainstream product?
Bhai carbon fiber reinforced composite airframe is a concept which is already implemented in LCA Tejas where it helped to reduce weight of the airframe and its RCS making it the stealthiest 4.5th generation fighters. Now the composite technology is being implemented in Arjun Mk2 to reduce its weight without compromising its protection levels. Another related developement is DRDO has successfully perfected Titanium and Aluminium alloys for ballistic application as well as boron carbide lightweight ceramics, glass/epoxy composites etc(large number of publications coming out of DMRL in the last decade). Hope to see many finding its application in FICV, FMBT as well as Arjun mk 2.
 

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Bhai carbon fiber reinforced composite airframe is a concept which is already implemented in LCA Tejas where it helped to reduce weight of the airframe and its RCS making it the stealthiest 4.5th generation fighters. Now the composite technology is being implemented in Arjun Mk2 to reduce its weight without compromising its protection levels. Another related developement is DRDO has successfully perfected Titanium and Aluminium alloys for ballistic application as well as boron carbide lightweight ceramics, glass/epoxy composites etc(large number of publications coming out of DMRL in the last decade). Hope to see many finding its application in FICV, FMBT as well as Arjun mk 2.
So there is still some hope for future variants of Arjun if army accepts it wholeheartedly.

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Bhai carbon fiber reinforced composite airframe is a concept which is already implemented in LCA Tejas where it helped to reduce weight of the airframe and its RCS making it the stealthiest 4.5th generation fighters. Now the composite technology is being implemented in Arjun Mk2 to reduce its weight without compromising its protection levels. Another related developement is DRDO has successfully perfected Titanium and Aluminium alloys for ballistic application as well as boron carbide lightweight ceramics, glass/epoxy composites etc(large number of publications coming out of DMRL in the last decade). Hope to see many finding its application in FICV, FMBT as well as Arjun mk 2.
Hell yeah, so they're implementing research work in Arjun MBT II.....
 
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no no
I am talking about those two containers lol not tanks :p sorry
They're extra fuel drums. Other tanks like Challenger, and Russian T series have them too.





Fun fact: The name "Tank" comes from WW1 era, when the British were developing the first generation of armored tracked vehicles to break the trench and barbed wire quagmire of the western front. They used the name "Tank" in an attempt at secrecy, to obscure the purpose as being related to water storage.
 

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They're extra fuel drums. Other tanks like Challenger, and Russian T series have them too.





Fun fact: The name "Tank" comes from WW1 era, when the British were developing the first generation of armored tracked vehicles to break the trench and barbed wire quagmire of the western front. They used the name "Tank" in an attempt at secrecy, to obscure the purpose as being related to water storage.
cool
so
what if those fuel tanks are hit by something
 

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cool
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what if those fuel tanks are hit by something
The answer is that generally they are used when the tanks use their own power to march towards the frontline, or any general road march when enemy contact is not too likely. Tank engines are big and guzzle fuel, so internal tanks will run dry pretty quick. When they reach the staging area, the empty drums can be removed, and they start their assault on internal fuel.

At peacetime tanks are usually moved around on flatbed trailers or rail cars.
 

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