MMRCA 2.0: News & Discussions

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Old suitors line up as India hunts for fighter jets again

...the IAF wants the project to be directly linked to the development of an indigenous futuristic stealth fighter – the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA). The manufacturer that India decides to collaborate with will have to commit to transfer of technology not only for the fighter to be built in India but also for the AMCA that is on the drawing board...
https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-...-jets-again/story-5ujCVeoVBJLegy7ClMSUEN.html

Possible suitable techs for AMCA from the contenders:

Rafale
- AESA radar
- EW
- FSO TV channel


EF
- EJ 200 with SC and 3D TVC capabilities
- AESA radar with repositioner
- Pirate IRST
- HMS/EW/single screen displays under development for EF future upgrades


Gripen E
- GaN EW sensors and jammers
- GaN AESA radar
- singlescreen display/avionics via Israel


F18 SH Block 3
- stealth design experience
- weapon bay / pod designs
- twin tail
- navalisation
- IRST
- singlescreen display via Israel


F16 Block 70
- stealth design experience
- upgrades via Israel
 
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MMRCA: Indian Air Force Warns Global Vendors on Transfer of Technology commitments

Global aerospace manufactures who are soon likely to send their response to Indian Air Force’s Request for Information (RFI) issued earlier in April have been warned to provide clear commitments from the vendors and their sub-vendors on the supply of sensitive guarantees on the transfer of technology including training facilities and performance guarantees or face chances of their response been rejected .

IAF issued RFI’s in 2004 (MMRCA ) and 2016 (Single Engine Fighter (SEF)) in both tenders had let Vendors decide what level of sensitive technology details they can transfer and previous RFI didn’t pin down clear commitments due to which Dassault Aviation after winning MMRCA became sensitive to transferring technology and later even Lockheed Martin which was leading in SEF tender suffered from commitment issues after learning it was about to clinch orders for F-16-V from India .

Lack of proper commitment on paper will mean that non-serious or non-committal vendors will be eliminated at screening stage itself before it is evaluated by a technical committee which will check if the aircraft on offer meets air force’s key requirements mentioned in RFI and Request for Information (RFI) will be issued later to vendors who have cleared RFI.

IAF seems to have learned from its previous experience and doesn’t want to waste years with vendors negotiating on the transfer of technology leading to further delays in the program. Most of the aircraft on the offer to India largely have remained the same but IAF will carry out technical rounds where each aircraft will be evaluated to find technical deficiencies which were found in previous rounds to see if those have been addressed.

Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale were only two aircraft which had meet IAF’s technical requirements in previous MMRCA contract but other Global vendors like Lockheed Martin, Saab, and Mig corporation now have a more mature platform than previously evaluated by Indian air force due to advancement in this programs.

Defense Analysts are also keeping a close eye on Indian Navy’s acquisition requirement for 57 carrier-borne multi-role fighters and have been tempting India with combing both IAF’s 110 aircraft requirement with 57 Naval requirements to save cost and time on the negotiation table with purchase of single common platform which can be locally manufactured in India.
http://idrw.org/mmrca-indian-air-force-warns-global-vendors-on-transfer-of-technology-commitments/
 
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Rafale fighter will be winner both for Indian Air Force and Indian Navy.
 

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Very good discussion about the tender and why it won't come anytime soon:

 

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Interesting news wrt possible partners and help for AMCA:

 

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Six global companies respond to India's RFI for 110 fighter jets

Can the Eurofighter Typhoon emerge as a dark horse and win the MMRCA race?

IAF will now draft its technical requirements for the tenders that can be issued within the next three to six months

India’s quest for procuring 110 fighter aircraft for its air force is progressing with six global aviation majors having responded to the Request for Information for the program.

The six firms which are competing for the IAF contract worth billions of dollars are Boeing’s F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Lockheed Martin’s F-16 Fighting Falcon, Dassault Aviation’s Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, SAAB’s Gripen and Russian United Aircraft Corporation’s MiG-35.

“All six firms have responded to the RFI,” said IAF government sources. Friday was the last day for responding to the RFI.

The aircraft makers which responded to the RFI would have mentioned the operational and technical parameters of their military platforms. They have also indicated the fly-away price of the aircraft. The IAF will now draft its technical requirements for the tenders that can be issued within the next three to six months. The competition to give India’s new fighter jet will start after the global players respond to these tenders. As per current plans, Indian private sector manufacturers are expected to tie up with the winning global player to manufacture these planes in India.

The six firms had competed in an earlier attempt to provide 126 fighter aircraft to the IAF, known as the Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) program. The MMRCA was scrapped after Prime Minister Narendra Modi in April 2015 had announced that India would instead procure 36 Rafale jets from France in a government to government deal.

Later, the defence ministry had another plan of procuring 114 single engine fighter jets with foreign collaboration at an estimated cost of Rs 1.15 lakh crore. This plan was also scrapped earlier this year. In April, the defence ministry issued a RFI to procure 110 fighter jets. This project includes both single and twin engine fighter aircraft. Two of the competitors in this contest are single engine fighter- the F-16 and the Gripen, while the remaining four are twin-engined.

According to the RFI, the procurement of the 110 aircraft should have 15 per cent aircraft in fly away condition and the remaining 85 per cent to be made in India by a Strategic Partner. Through the RFI, the ministry has invited global aviation manufacturers to participate in the project and offer Transfer of Technology for the indigenous manufacture of the aircraft in India.

The program is a crucial requirement of the IAF, which currently has a reduced strength of 31 fighter squadrons (each having 18 jets), when it actually requires 42 to tackle the collusive threat of Pakistan and China.

But, IAF is separately making efforts to further strengthen its combat capabilities with the induction of the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft. Defence PSU, Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), is currently working on manufacturing 123 Tejas LCA for the IAF. Out of these 40 are Mark 1 version and the remaining 83 are Mark 1A version.
http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2018/07/six-global-companies-respond-to-indias.html
 

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Six firms send proposals for 110 fighters to IAF

Over a decade after they submitted proposals to sell India 126 fighter aircraft, six global aircraft manufacturers have submitted proposals for the Indian Air Force’s hunt for 110 fighter aircraft.

In April, the Indian Air Force came out with a request for information (RFI) seeking responses for its global hunt for 110 fighter jets on the backdrop of its depleting combat strength. At present, the IAF has 32 combat squadrons but needs at least 42 squadrons to handle a two-front war scenario, which assumes China and Pakistan pose a collusive threat.

The deadline to submit responses to the RFI ended on Friday. According to official sources, six firms have responded to the IAF’s request. These companies are France’s Dassault Aviation, makers of Rafale; Airbus with the Eurofighter; Sweden’s Saab with the Gripen; US’ Boeing with F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet; US’ Lockheed Martin with the F-16 and Russia’s MiG-35.

Interestingly, the same six aircraft were offered to India in 2007 under the medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) project to buy 126 aircraft. Though the Rafale was selected as the ‘winner’ of the MMRCA project, contract negotiations dragged on, only to be cancelled by the Narendra Modi government in 2015. India opted for a direct purchase of 36 Rafales.

Based on the responses from these companies and the IAF’s technical requirements, the IAF will prepare a request for proposal (RFP) that will formally begin the global race. And this process will take at least four to six months, according to officials.

The IAF is seeking to acquire 110 fighter jets, of which 85 per cent aircraft are to be built in India with a domestic strategic partner or production agency. The RFI also stipulates that 75 per cent of the fighters will be single-seat jets. However, the IAF did not clarify whether it is looking for a single-engine or twin-engine aircraft.

The world’s fourth-largest air force, which had a strength of 42 squadrons of fighter jets in 2002, will be down to 28 squadrons by 2020 and further down to 19 squadrons by 2042 if the government does not take speedy action, according to an internal estimate of the IAF.

However, multiple efforts are being planned by the IAF to meet its operational requirements. Apart from 40 LCA Tejas fighters, the IAF has also ordered procurement of 83 additional LCA MK-IAs, which will be equipped with more lethal avionics and weaponry. In between, the IAF is also upgrading its existing fleet of Mirage-2000, MiG-29 and Jaguar fighters to keep them contemporary and increase their operational capability.

Earlier this year, the IAF had withdrawn its project to make 114 single-engine fighters that was touted as the largest ‘Make in India’ programme and was launched over two years ago. In anticipation of this project, Saab and Lockheed Martin had already announced their collaboration with Indian firms to express their intentions to set up production lines in India.
http://idrw.org/six-firms-send-proposals-for-110-fighters-to-iaf/
 

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2 General elections is 10yrs.

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Sadly yes and I don't expect much to happen till at least summer 2019 and even then we could see another u turn of this government.
 

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IAF Fighter Fleet in Crisis

Clearly evident in Air Chief Marshal BS Dhanoa’īs statements was the fact that the threat from both China and Pakistan, including a possible two-front war is real. The emphasis was on the need to quickly reach the strength of 42 combat squadrons from this near all-time low of 33. The 15 years transform roughly to 2032 when, if all goes well, the IAF will have its authorised strength. A closer analysis will show that it will be possible only if all dreams come true and all plans move on centre-line. The ground reality is that the IAF is in a crisis situation on this count.
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Slovakia selects F-16 over Gripen for new fighter

Slovakia has decided to purchase 14 new Lockheed Martin F-16 fighters to replace its Russian made MiG-29 jets...

...However, the ministry did not put a final price tag on the F-16 purchase, but Reuters reported that the dollar figure could be €1.1 billion (U.S. $1.3 billion) for the 14 jets.

"We are pleased Slovakia has selected the F-16 Block 70,” Lockheed spokesman John Losinger said...
https://www.defensenews.com/digital...kia-selects-f-16-over-gripen-for-new-fighter/

Note Saab offered light class Gripen C/Ds in it's latest upgrade standard, for the competition.
 

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Lot's of interesting news from some of contenders, from the Farnborough Air show!





 

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Weapon options for Gripen E:



AARGM - anti radiation missile
RBS15 Gungnir - anti ship missile
Spear / Spice 250 - PGM
Brimstone - CAS missile
Meteor / Iris-T, Aim120 / Aim 9X - A2A missiles


Also Stormbreaker (renamed SDB2) for F18

 

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Weapon options for Gripen E:



AARGM - anti radiation missile
RBS15 Gungnir - anti ship missile
Spear / Spice 250 - PGM
Brimstone - CAS missile
Meteor / Iris-T, Aim120 / Aim 9X - A2A missiles


Also Stormbreaker (renamed SDB2) for F18

ARE YOU AGENT OF SAAB GRIPEN BRO?? WHY ARE YOU MARKETING IT HERE WE DONT HAVE MONEY...
 

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ARE YOU AGENT OF SAAB GRIPEN BRO?? WHY ARE YOU MARKETING IT HERE WE DONT HAVE MONEY...
I am providing news and infos of all fighters in the competition, you can take it to learn and get a real understanding of capabilities, or you don't, that's up to you.
 

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